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  • RetiredWingManundefined Offline
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    77 kms is a long way between waypoints. Allows the navigation software an opportunity to select a shorter route. Add a few more waypoints and that will likely solve the issue.

    2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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    • paul69undefined Offline
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      hi @retiredwingman
      think you may have misunderstood the post.
      I know the way to waypoint 3. the fastest route will always be motorway, hence why I do not need more points.
      I was merely pointing out that I was directed off and back on the motorway at every junction.
      I have ridden this same route a number of times, it was only on this occasion, interestingly since the latest update, that it behaved like this.

      to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
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      • LE DIZES Freddyundefined Offline
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        Hello
        Are motorways permitted?

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        • paul69undefined Offline
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          #5

          @le-dizes-freddy
          yep, but even if they were not permitted, it would not explain the fact of instructing me back on to the motorway.
          I could see the route highlighted ahead, on my screen. attempting to take me off then back on.
          I am not new to this app, and I would consider myself quite an experienced user, I was just pointing out the behaviour, and as stated above, the same route has been done previously without this issue.
          I think it was having a bad day, as my phone got really hot, not done this for a long time, and the app crashed a couple of times later in the ride.

          to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
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          • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
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            #6

            I would say it's in the settings of your Navigation Next.
            Although the route has not that many shaping points that doesn't explain why it tries to get you of the motorway.
            That could be the result of the settings in NN.
            Could you share your settings

            Honda Goldwing GL1500,
            Honda Silverwing GL 650
            DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
            Garmin XT sold
            Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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            • John S Parryundefined Online
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              #7

              It's just a guess, but if could be HERE map behavior. More than once, I've experienced strange things directly attributable to HERE itself. Again, this is just a guess, but something to consider.

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              • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
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                Marinus van Deudekom
                RouteXpert
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                #8

                Did you make the route with the webplanner. I see that the route is with the Here map.
                Did you by any change made it with the OSM and then later on concerted it to Here.
                I know that OSM does tricks like you've explained with motorways.
                If you started with OSM you can't het rid of that behaviour

                Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                Honda Silverwing GL 650
                DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                Garmin XT sold
                Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                  Did you make the route with the webplanner. I see that the route is with the Here map.
                  Did you by any change made it with the OSM and then later on concerted it to Here.
                  I know that OSM does tricks like you've explained with motorways.
                  If you started with OSM you can't het rid of that behaviour

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                  John S Parry
                  wrote last edited by John S Parry
                  #9

                  @Marinus-van-Deudekom interesting observation on OSM. I do sometimes change the base map from OSM to HERE if I decide I need to execute the route on the phone. I haven't experienced issues, but good to know it's a possibility.

                  What I have experienced is a route on a long/straight USA interstate (think I-5 in California), where HERE will have me exit and re-enter the freeway for no apparent reason. I had no waypoints that would have triggered the behavior, but it's happened more than once. The response in the past when I've reported it that it's HERE doing it under the covers and MRA has no control over that behavior. That was of course comforting. 🙄

                  My solution over time has been to develop using OSM as the base map, which I've found far more stable/predictable than HERE. It works well most of the time, because I export the GPX and use a Garmin Zumo XT for most of my route executions. This won't work with the app execution since the route must be developed using the HERE map as base. Again, just something to consider.

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                  • paul69undefined paul69

                    hi @retiredwingman
                    think you may have misunderstood the post.
                    I know the way to waypoint 3. the fastest route will always be motorway, hence why I do not need more points.
                    I was merely pointing out that I was directed off and back on the motorway at every junction.
                    I have ridden this same route a number of times, it was only on this occasion, interestingly since the latest update, that it behaved like this.

                    Brian McGundefined Offline
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                    #10

                    Hi @paul69 I have tried simulating driving your route multiple times & can't repeat the behaviour your seeing,
                    in fact I get the exact opposite, at every junction it is telling me to stay ON the m-way or main A-road
                    b5f9a811-6ccd-4dca-8c71-bbd889e79e6a-image.jpeg

                    My guess is somehow when you started the route MRA glitched & changed a navigation setting in the background so the route was recalculated to do something abnormal
                    As @marinus-van-deudekom says this effect has been know in the past when someone created a route with the OSM route calculator but we can see in this case you have selected the Here route calculator so it is odd

                    I think the only way to try & figure out what is occurring is if you can re-ride the route & get a repeat of the issue then save the app log file for the devs
                    It looks like a decent ride to Hawick so should not be to much of a hard task 😂

                    BlackView BV7100, Android 12
                    Navigate "Routes as Tracks" in Offline mode with Offline Maps
                    No Wifi, no internet, no interruptions, works well

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                    • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

                      Hi @paul69 I have tried simulating driving your route multiple times & can't repeat the behaviour your seeing,
                      in fact I get the exact opposite, at every junction it is telling me to stay ON the m-way or main A-road
                      b5f9a811-6ccd-4dca-8c71-bbd889e79e6a-image.jpeg

                      My guess is somehow when you started the route MRA glitched & changed a navigation setting in the background so the route was recalculated to do something abnormal
                      As @marinus-van-deudekom says this effect has been know in the past when someone created a route with the OSM route calculator but we can see in this case you have selected the Here route calculator so it is odd

                      I think the only way to try & figure out what is occurring is if you can re-ride the route & get a repeat of the issue then save the app log file for the devs
                      It looks like a decent ride to Hawick so should not be to much of a hard task 😂

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #11

                      @Brian-McG That's a nice screen! What device is this?

                      Positive emotions are worth every penny ;)

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                      • Lenny Oundefined Lenny O

                        @Brian-McG That's a nice screen! What device is this?

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #12

                        @Lenny-O its an android simulator on PC, not a mobile device

                        BlackView BV7100, Android 12
                        Navigate "Routes as Tracks" in Offline mode with Offline Maps
                        No Wifi, no internet, no interruptions, works well

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