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  • Lluis Arasanzundefined Lluis Arasanz

    @Con-Hennekens

    Is not true, the block is for whole account, so "old" and "new" devices remains blocked. In case you gets blocked, you can't use MyRoute-app on any device.

    To have in mind, we're speaking on 2 thinks, that could be good:

    • User is allowed to "delist" old devices with a montly limit (maybe 2) of changes in a month. This helps user to change devices, but remains under control how many times can be done in a month. In any case, license cat be "more" than 2, so limits apply on same bases than now.
    • User can "forget" manually an old device to be inside 3 devices limit and 2 of them online. License is still under limit, and in case MRA wants to limit devices change, could be also a 2 devices remove limit in a month.

    In any case, we're not speaking in neither make a higher license limit nor increase devices for a user. Simply, alloy user to "self manage" which devices are ok and which not.

    Regards

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    wrote last edited by
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    @Lluis-Arasanz said:

    Is not true, the block is for whole account, so "old" and "new" devices remains blocked. In case you gets blocked, you can't use MyRoute-app on any device.

    Your statement contradicts the official one:
    https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/74368
    which says:

    The change we made is that if you are blocked because of too many device, we only block your new devices. Meaning the original 2 devices you used will still be accessible.

    It's just in this case from @brian-mcg, where an OS system update is done and the designation of the phone seemingly changes, the old and the new one actually are the same, so they get blocked. That's worth investigating of course.

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    • Lluis Arasanzundefined Lluis Arasanz

      @Con-Hennekens

      Is not true, the block is for whole account, so "old" and "new" devices remains blocked. In case you gets blocked, you can't use MyRoute-app on any device.

      To have in mind, we're speaking on 2 thinks, that could be good:

      • User is allowed to "delist" old devices with a montly limit (maybe 2) of changes in a month. This helps user to change devices, but remains under control how many times can be done in a month. In any case, license cat be "more" than 2, so limits apply on same bases than now.
      • User can "forget" manually an old device to be inside 3 devices limit and 2 of them online. License is still under limit, and in case MRA wants to limit devices change, could be also a 2 devices remove limit in a month.

      In any case, we're not speaking in neither make a higher license limit nor increase devices for a user. Simply, alloy user to "self manage" which devices are ok and which not.

      Regards

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      @Lluis-Arasanz sorry Luis but I think your suggestion could increase the costs for MRA
      at the moment they allow 2 devices to be logged in & a 3rd device to be registered
      in your scenario it would still be also possible to have 2 logged in,
      but within one month you would allow a total of 4 registered devices, the 2 new + the 2 old

      We have to remember it is Here that are dictating the issue of licences per device & I do not know what the Here terms are for the licence, if it is devices per month or devices per year

      If the licence is registered devices per month with your scenario of de-listing 2 devices per month MRA's costs could increase MRAs by 25%
      If it is registered devices per year you could be increasing the cost x24 if we all registered 2 new devices per month

      I am afraid that with MRA being generous they have dug themselves a bit of a hole, once people experience free the expectation is that more is also free, they are allowing us x3 devices when they should be allowing us x1

      @con-hennekens & @marinus-van-deudekom the update issue is an error on my end, nothing to worry about for MRA & android updates

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      • Bouke Entundefined Offline
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        i am still in process to find correct setup. iphone or android, tablet or phone. this had effect on my max devices.... not active but max devices. my account was also blocked because of my testing. also i did switch to newer phone.

        my solution was to contact support and ask to remove not used devices and give me a quote for 2 extra devices.

        I also use 1 android phone just to download gpx and put it in a android app. because i will not be allways online the app is more usefull for me.

        so i think current way works. if you have a blocked account contact support and there will be a solution.

        because i now know the limits i am extra carefull not to get a block.

        when my account was blocked still my first device did work. not the device i did wanted to use but i had a device.

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          #13

          I think it's important not to overlook Antonio's initial suggestion, which is the same one I made in another thread.
          We're not asking for more licenses or any kind of additional freedom. We're simply asking for self-management.
          Just as we can still use the route lab via the web when our account is locked, we should be able to access our account via the web and delete devices we've mistakenly added. That's self-management.
          More freedom for the user, less work for the staff. The same connectivity as before.
          In any case, this is a proposal that the staff should consider. They will decide if it is viable or possible.

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          • b0hd1undefined b0hd1

            I think it's important not to overlook Antonio's initial suggestion, which is the same one I made in another thread.
            We're not asking for more licenses or any kind of additional freedom. We're simply asking for self-management.
            Just as we can still use the route lab via the web when our account is locked, we should be able to access our account via the web and delete devices we've mistakenly added. That's self-management.
            More freedom for the user, less work for the staff. The same connectivity as before.
            In any case, this is a proposal that the staff should consider. They will decide if it is viable or possible.

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            @b0hd1, the problem with that is that it opens the possibility of "self-managing" many devices. @brian-mcg is quite right in his assessment of devices per month...

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              wrote last edited by Lluis Arasanz
              #15

              @con-hennekens , In my proposal, I put 2 conditions:

              • Self managament of devices with a limit of 2 devices (as now)
              • Limit for devices change: Detect more device change than a limit (staff managed) to avoid multidevice self managing change.

              In any case, no more than 2 devices allowed to run, no account blocking but user self device deregister.

              We do not ask for more licenses, only a flexible way to change devices.

              About block, in my case it show that:

              8e08bef3-e9a0-4bc3-a5ed-0eff4223417a-image.jpeg

              So I can't logout and no use on any device

              Regards,

              Lluis Arasanz

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                The issue is avoiding being locked out and unable to use Next. This might happen while you're traveling—perhaps due to a broken or lost device—and you don't know what to do. In my case, the account was canceled at 4:30 PM on Sunday and reactivated at 7:20 AM on Monday. I'm not trying to provide a solution. I simply want to highlight the problem and hope that those with expertise can find a less critical solution.

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                • Antonio 1eundefined Antonio 1e

                  The issue is avoiding being locked out and unable to use Next. This might happen while you're traveling—perhaps due to a broken or lost device—and you don't know what to do. In my case, the account was canceled at 4:30 PM on Sunday and reactivated at 7:20 AM on Monday. I'm not trying to provide a solution. I simply want to highlight the problem and hope that those with expertise can find a less critical solution.

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                  @Antonio-1e said:

                  The issue is avoiding being locked out and unable to use Next. This might happen while you're traveling—perhaps due to a broken or lost device—and you don't know what to do. In my case, the account was canceled at 4:30 PM on Sunday and reactivated at 7:20 AM on Monday. I'm not trying to provide a solution. I simply want to highlight the problem and hope that those with expertise can find a less critical solution.

                  same here but i was happy that my first phone still worked. if that was not the case i also had to wait for support.

                  i was also on a travel and i did not realize hard way its way. i could on ios not stop active.... at the end is was not active but max devices.

                  for me it was not clear max active and max devices.... last i still do not know when or how it will reset.

                  phone that was still working i will not use but is still in list.

                  i did pay for 2 extra and i do hope it is activated soon before vacation.

                  i never did give away or borrowed my account to others.

                  but in short there was a problem.

                  i support MRA.

                  If like me you want use more then 2 then ask for extra devices. ok it cost money but then MRA can work also with more devices.

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                  • Bouke Entundefined Bouke Ent

                    @Antonio-1e said:

                    The issue is avoiding being locked out and unable to use Next. This might happen while you're traveling—perhaps due to a broken or lost device—and you don't know what to do. In my case, the account was canceled at 4:30 PM on Sunday and reactivated at 7:20 AM on Monday. I'm not trying to provide a solution. I simply want to highlight the problem and hope that those with expertise can find a less critical solution.

                    same here but i was happy that my first phone still worked. if that was not the case i also had to wait for support.

                    i was also on a travel and i did not realize hard way its way. i could on ios not stop active.... at the end is was not active but max devices.

                    for me it was not clear max active and max devices.... last i still do not know when or how it will reset.

                    phone that was still working i will not use but is still in list.

                    i did pay for 2 extra and i do hope it is activated soon before vacation.

                    i never did give away or borrowed my account to others.

                    but in short there was a problem.

                    i support MRA.

                    If like me you want use more then 2 then ask for extra devices. ok it cost money but then MRA can work also with more devices.

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                    @Bouke-Ent said:

                    for me it was not clear max active and max devices.... last i still do not know when or how it will reset.

                    Did you put in a ticket. Then you will get an answer

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                    • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                      @Bouke-Ent said:

                      for me it was not clear max active and max devices.... last i still do not know when or how it will reset.

                      Did you put in a ticket. Then you will get an answer

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                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom said:

                      @Bouke-Ent said:

                      for me it was not clear max active and max devices.... last i still do not know when or how it will reset.

                      Did you put in a ticket. Then you will get an answer

                      if you read all, you read i had contact with support and it was reset but i never got info about max devices and how it would be reset.

                      for now i am in proces to get 2 extra devices on my account and i watch out until then that i will change to much.

                      but if there is a problem just contact support and then will solve it.

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