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  • Christian Feurstein
    Christian Feurstein
    Christian Feurstein
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    I have a question regarding route planning and travel times.
    Recently, I planned a motorcycle day trip using the MRA Web Planner (with the HERE map archetype). The planner estimated a total travel time of 7 hours. However, when I started my trip in the morning and loaded the route into the MRA Navigation Next app, the display showed a travel time of 8 hours right from the start.
    I am trying to understand where this 1-hour difference comes from.

    • Is this discrepancy purely due to live traffic conditions being factored into the navigation app but not the planner?

    • Does the navigation app calculate different average speeds for motorcycles compared to the web planner?
      What settings or steps do I need to adjust in the MRA Web Planner to ensure that the estimated travel time matches the navigation app as closely as possible before I head out?

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    • Christian Feurstein Christian Feurstein

      I have a question regarding route planning and travel times.
      Recently, I planned a motorcycle day trip using the MRA Web Planner (with the HERE map archetype). The planner estimated a total travel time of 7 hours. However, when I started my trip in the morning and loaded the route into the MRA Navigation Next app, the display showed a travel time of 8 hours right from the start.
      I am trying to understand where this 1-hour difference comes from.

      • Is this discrepancy purely due to live traffic conditions being factored into the navigation app but not the planner?

      • Does the navigation app calculate different average speeds for motorcycles compared to the web planner?
        What settings or steps do I need to adjust in the MRA Web Planner to ensure that the estimated travel time matches the navigation app as closely as possible before I head out?

      Marinus van Deudekom
      Marinus van Deudekom
      Marinus van Deudekom
      RouteXpert
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      #2

      @Christian-Feurstein in the web planner stops etc are included in the total time. In the app nog

      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
      Honda Silverwing GL 650
      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
      Garmin XT sold
      Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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      • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

        @Christian-Feurstein in the web planner stops etc are included in the total time. In the app nog

        RetiredWingMan
        RetiredWingMan
        RetiredWingMan
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        @Marinus-van-Deudekom. The app calculated time is longer than the planner so I don't think stop times apply in this case.

        2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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        • Christian Feurstein Christian Feurstein

          I have a question regarding route planning and travel times.
          Recently, I planned a motorcycle day trip using the MRA Web Planner (with the HERE map archetype). The planner estimated a total travel time of 7 hours. However, when I started my trip in the morning and loaded the route into the MRA Navigation Next app, the display showed a travel time of 8 hours right from the start.
          I am trying to understand where this 1-hour difference comes from.

          • Is this discrepancy purely due to live traffic conditions being factored into the navigation app but not the planner?

          • Does the navigation app calculate different average speeds for motorcycles compared to the web planner?
            What settings or steps do I need to adjust in the MRA Web Planner to ensure that the estimated travel time matches the navigation app as closely as possible before I head out?

          Brian McG
          Brian McG
          Brian McG
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          @Christian-Feurstein if you are using the app to navigate by Route rather than Track & you have the Traffic setting > Traffic Aware Calculation enabled it is quite possible that the extra hour is due to this
          Did you notice any change in the total mileage for the route?
          It is quite possible your Route was changed to avoid a road closure & the detour may have added a large loop that added the extra time

          BlackView BV7100, Android 12
          Navigate "Routes as Tracks" in Offline mode with Offline Maps
          No Wifi, no internet, no interruptions, works well

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          • Christian Feurstein
            Christian Feurstein
            Christian Feurstein
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            I am able to reproduce this issue with my planned route. So I have checked your question regarding the distance and it is keeping exact the same amount of km when starting the navigation. Today the navigation of the 7h route tells me 7h46min duration. The difference seems to occur probably due to traffic ...

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            • Christian Feurstein Christian Feurstein

              I am able to reproduce this issue with my planned route. So I have checked your question regarding the distance and it is keeping exact the same amount of km when starting the navigation. Today the navigation of the 7h route tells me 7h46min duration. The difference seems to occur probably due to traffic ...

              Brian McG
              Brian McG
              Brian McG
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              @Christian-Feurstein said:
              The difference seems to occur probably due to traffic ...

              How were you able to deduce the issue was due to traffic?
              If you turn off the "Traffic Aware Calculation" does the estimated time stay the same as the planner?

              BlackView BV7100, Android 12
              Navigate "Routes as Tracks" in Offline mode with Offline Maps
              No Wifi, no internet, no interruptions, works well

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              • Brian McG Brian McG

                @Christian-Feurstein said:
                The difference seems to occur probably due to traffic ...

                How were you able to deduce the issue was due to traffic?
                If you turn off the "Traffic Aware Calculation" does the estimated time stay the same as the planner?

                Christian Feurstein
                Christian Feurstein
                Christian Feurstein
                wrote last edited by
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                @Brian-McG yes. When turning off "Traffic aware calculation" the navigation time is the same as the planner time.
                So we discovered the reason for the time difference but there is still the question: is there anything I can do in the planner to get the same traveltime as the navigation calculates with activated "traffic aware calculation"?

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