Font for the distance to the next turn to smal

[Marinus van Deudekom]

@ErikMatthezing said:

But as indicated, screen space is limited of course. I also do not know if the developer(s) can make the font individually customizable, that could be a solution for everyone.

I think that has been asked before and came back not possible (yet)
If it's gonna be possible sometimes in the future I would welcome that

[BFG]

@CD130 said:

... Or maybe we’re just at the age where we need reading glasses.

Nice point to raise and it shouldn't matter. Reading glasses are for when the focusing muscles in the eyes weaken, which highlights a concern often dismissed by interface designers; you should not need to use refocusing muscles in a vehicle anyway. They are too slow.

Large font is not just for old people - it's for speed. This is why fighter jets and airliners have Heads-up-displays optically focused at infinity, so the muscles are not needed.

UI designers want to make the best of available screen space, naturally, but they are usually designing sitting at a desk, not doing 120kph, and it can result in the wrong priorities.

[Daniel 7]

I am also aware that space is limited; nevertheless, I still see room for improvement. After all, the street name can apparently be displayed in a large font—something that isn't particularly important to me while riding my motorcycle. I am judging this solely based on my specific use case on a mobile phone, where, as things stand, it is not easy to read. I have only been wearing glasses for two years, and I need them absolutely only for reading. Of course, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but personally, I don't think this has been handled well.

[Daniel 7]

In my opinion, this also has something to do with road safety. How long do I have to look at the display before I can make out the instructions? With larger text, recognizing them happens much faster.

Is anyone from the myRoute app team actually reading along here?
A statement from myRoute regarding whether we can expect anything in this regard would be appreciated.

[ErikMatthezing]

@BFG said:

@CD130 said:

... Or maybe we’re just at the age where we need reading glasses.

Nice point to raise and it shouldn't matter. Reading glasses are for when the focusing muscles in the eyes weaken, which highlights a concern often dismissed by interface designers; you should not need to use refocusing muscles in a vehicle anyway. They are too slow.

Large font is not just for old people - it's for speed. This is why fighter jets and airliners have Heads-up-displays optically focused at infinity, so the muscles are not needed.

UI designers want to make the best of available screen space, naturally, but they are usually designing sitting at a desk, not doing 120kph, and it can result in the wrong priorities.

Most healthy young people will not have a problem with this.

If your eyes have trouble focusing near or far, it is time for glasses, and that is one of the reasons glasses exist. We can also hardly ask the government to provide all traffic signs with a larger font. Furthermore, some people find a font large enough and others do not; it remains a matter of personal preference.

HUD is a dream for motorcyclists; I recently read an article that they are actually working on HUD in helmets.

[Daniel 7]

I think some people here have misunderstood me. My focus is on practicality and on suggesting improvements for the myRoute app. If myRoute doesn't make these changes in the future, there are, after all, alternative routing apps available. I don't need any lectures about glasses.

[Peter Zehentreiter]

I am 64 years old wearing glasses and I can read it easily.

[Daniel 7]

@Peter-Zehentreiter said:

I am 64 years old wearing glasses and I can read it easily.

I'm delighted for you

[Peter Zehentreiter]

@Daniel-7 said:

there are, after all, alternative routing apps available

That’s true, of course; I’ve used a few of them myself......

But personally, when you take all the features into account, I definitely think MRA comes out on top.

The fact that the next turn-off instruction is displayed in a slightly smaller font than on rival devices isn’t a deal-breaker for me.

What’s more, the turn-off instructions are also announced via audio at the same time.

[Con Hennekens]

@Daniel-7 said:

I don't need any lectures about glasses.

I won't lecture you on glasses, but on mounts instead
A more stable mount could help. Vibrations make text reading more difficult.
This might be worth exploring for you.

Making the fontsize customizable is VERY finicky, since we already have to cope with SOOO many different screen sizes, aspects and resolutions. Believe me, it is a bigger puzzle than it sounds...

[Daniel 7]

Maybe Carpuride, combined with the myRoute app via Android Auto, could be a solution for me... we'll see. In that scenario, however, the myRoute app apparently doesn't offer as many features—at least, that's what I read somewhere. Does anyone have any experience with this?

[richard 3v]

Carpuride with AA certainly does not show the next fuel stop icon.

[Con Hennekens]

@richard-3v, but it does... along with a "next waypoint" tile.
It's in the public update to v5.1, 3 weeks ago
https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/77330

[Peter Zehentreiter]

@Daniel-7 said:

without using headphones inside my helmet.

Haven’t you fitted one, or did you not want to use it to test the font size?

If you haven’t fitted a headset, I’d rather invest the money in a headset than in a Carpuride.

AA does work, but there are more settings to adjust, and due to the manufacturer’s restrictions, fewer functions are available – and even then, only via workarounds.

The app without AA offers more options if you use it natively and works seamlessly.

[BFG]

@ErikMatthezing said:

Most healthy young people will not have a problem with this.

You misunderstand. I'm not referring to an eye problem, it's how all vision works. In a perfectly healthy and young human, like a fighter pilot, refocusing take time. It might be fractions of a second, but it's enough that companies invest hundreds of millions in solving it. It's just that it doesn't normally factor in personal vehicles.

The situation for personal vehicles is to ensure text is readable in everyone's peripheral vision, without the need to refocus. That is what we do in the vehicle design industry. It's highly documented, e.g.:

ISO 15008:2017
ISO 4513
MIL-M-18012B
NHTSA Visual-Manual Driver Distraction Guidelines

There is even a minimum pt size for fonts in the Android Automotive OS Design Guidelines

[Daniel 7]

@Con-Hennekens said:

@richard-3v, but it does... along with a "next waypoint" tile.
It's in the public update to v5.1, 3 weeks ago
https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/77330

The screenshots of MyRoute-App running on Android Auto—from the link you provided—look very promising. In my opinion, they’ve handled the font size issue exceptionally well there. That could be the ideal solution for me. The only downside is that the Carpuride unfortunately doesn't have a built-in battery. I’m not too keen on that aspect.

[Con Hennekens]

@Daniel-7, It's not just promising, it's already available in the last public update

[Daniel 7]

@Con-Hennekens said:

@Daniel-7, It's not just promising, it's already available in the last public update

I have been an MRA user for a very long time, and back in the day, I purchased the Lifetime version for both components (the Web Planner and Navigation). Until now, however, I have only used the MRA Web Planner to plan my routes for my TomTom Rider 400. My intention was to use my ruggedized smartphone as an alternative device for MRA Navigation—something I recently put to the test. However, I found that the display showing the distance to the next turn instruction was simply too small on my smartphone screen. I can read this information without any trouble on my TomTom Rider 400, but not when using MRA Navigation on my phone. I have since noticed, though, that this information is displayed in a larger format when using Android Auto. To take advantage of that, however, I would need to acquire yet another new device (a Carpuride unit).

[richard 3v]

@Con-Hennekens Ooops, indeed it does. My apologies for posting duff information