Anyone tried Ridernav R7M with MRA via AA yet?

[M. Schrijver]

MRA and AA in general. Regardless the AA/ACP device.

[Ed Lauwerens 0]

I would like to use MRA for Navigation on my BMW R1300GSA, but in reviews have not seen a good working setup using the Wonderwheel. Has someone experienced RiderNav R7M, Apple CarPlay, MRA for Navigation and using the BMW Wonderwheel?

[PieterG]

@Ed-Lauwerens-0 said in Anyone tried Ridernav R7M with MRA via AA yet?:

I would like to use MRA for Navigation on my BMW R1300GSA, but in reviews have not seen a good working setup using the Wonderwheel. Has someone experienced RiderNav R7M, Apple CarPlay, MRA for Navigation and using the BMW Wonderwheel?

Yes, I have tested MRA on the Ridernav r7m with the wonderwheel on my R1250GS and so far I'm happy with it. I use Android Auto. Have a look at this guy, Smart Rider Gadgets. He has done very good tests with the Ridernav r7m. And he got his R1300GSA yesterday and has also tested the Ridernav r7m on it via Carplay. https://youtu.be/gh1JJbbGJVA?si=0Zo9RstRjykjKiy5

[PieterG]

Hi Adrian, I disagree. My phone is working fine with AA in my car and these devices are not just 'mirrorring' your phone: there is software in between and every implementation is different. User interface also differs a lot (!) from the app interface on the phone. (and so are the bugs) Example: in my car, using AA, the buttons are on the left side of the screen but on the the Ridernav r7m, several Carpuride models and the Chigee aio 5 and 6, the buttons are at the buttom. I read that Chigee will soon add an extra option to choose (aio 6 only) if the buttons are below or at the side in AA. (in Carplay they are allways at the left side)

[PieterG]

Hi everyone, I can answer the question I started this thread with: the Ridernav R7M works very well, with both Android Auto and CarPlay, as well as with the BMW Wonder Wheel and in combination with MRA. Although using the Wonder Wheel isn't as ideal as I was used to with the BMW Navigator 6: with that, I could zoom in and out by simply turning the Wonder Wheel forward or backward, and that worked instantly, quickly, and perfectly, especially if you had strayed from your route or encountered a road closure—just zoom out for a moment and drive back to your route via a detour. Unfortunately, clicking a + or a - on the display is an inconvenient amount of fumbling, and that applies to all other devices, even the Chigee 5 and 6. You can buy the Ridernav R7M for around 250 euros (25% discount codes can be found on YouTube), and if I compare that to the Chigee 6, which is almost 3 times as expensive (the separate BMW adapter alone costs you 125 euros!), then you have to ask yourself if the Chigee is also 3 times as good. My answer is: Chigee is great, but certainly not 3 times better than the Ridernav R7M, which is simply very good too!

[Ed Lauwerens 0]

Well, I ordered the RiderNav R7M for my BMW R1300GSA and will use it with MRA for a trip to Noordkaap this June - I assume everything will work fine and I will let you know my experiences afterwards.

[b0hd1]

@Ed-Lauwerens-0 Bring an alternative navigation system. There are quite a few reports of problems with the R7M...

[b0hd1]

@PieterG The Chigee might not be three times better. But it's much better and never fails. What price can you put on peace of mind? However cheap Ridernav is, if it fails, it's very expensive.

Regards.

[PieterG]

@b0hd1 said:

@PieterG The Chigee might not be three times better. But it's much better and never fails. What price can you put on peace of mind? However cheap Ridernav is, if it fails, it's very expensive.

Regards.

I can't find many alarming problems on the Internet, do you have sources for this? Because, on the other hand, there are actually a lot of good experiences too.

But then again, doesn't what you wrote apply to everything...?

And besides, I have an 18-month warranty, so I'm not worried

Furthermore, it goes without saying that everyone is free to make their own choice

[M. Schrijver]

When you compare better devices with lesser devices. You mostly notice the differences when you switch to the "lesser" device after using the better device for a while.

[PieterG]

@M.-Schrijver said:

When you compare better devices with lesser devices. You mostly notice the differences when you switch to the "lesser" device after using the better device for a while.

Correct. And sometimes 'less is more'.
I've got all I need now.

[Lenny O]

I tried my friend's Ridernav R7M with MRA NAV on my phone just before ordering the R7M. Well..... the Navigation screen does not look like it does on my phone, missing the 3 dots menu and is somewhat rearranged.
I was disappointed and decided not to order.
Besides, the actual screen on the R7M is just barely, and I mean BARELY larger than the screen on my Samsung S15 Ultra. There is a lot of dead space around the screen on the R7M. So, all together it was a deal braker for me.

[PieterG]

@Lenny-O Hi Lenny,

That is not due to the Ridernav R7M: What you see on the screen of the Ridernav R7M (and all other similar devices) is determined by the app you are using.

So not by the Ridernav R7M itself, because it only shows what it is being powered by.

This has to do with the way app developers have implemented Android Auto / Carplay, as well as the limitations imposed on them by Apple and Google...

And yes, it looks different and you are missing a lot. You could try other apps and see which one you like best in combination with a display. (For example, I am very happy with Kurviger for turn-by-turn navigation, and Sygic, Google and Waze for A to B navigation. (But that's up to you to decide )

Regarding the size, I can only say 7 inches is 7 inches... and that is substantially larger than my mobile phone and, moreover, much more visible in sunlight.

If you want something even larger than 7 inches, keep in mind that it might limit your view of your motorcycle display.

And yes, the housing is larger than the display itself, but that is the case with all models and brands, so you will have to accept that if you want to do anything with it

By the way, there is only one device on the market that, according to reviewers, scores better with its specs, but it is 2.5 to 3 times as expensive as the Ridernav R7M. I tested that one too, and it works the same way.

In the meantime, I have driven 3,000 km with the Ridernav R7M and am very satisfied. I tested various other brands and models in combination with multiple navigation apps, but I found them all to be worse to bad.

(tip: The Ridernav R7M is always available for purchase with a 20 or 25% discount using a discount code)

[PieterG]

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[PieterG]

@Ed-Lauwerens-0 said:

Well, I ordered the RiderNav R7M for my BMW R1300GSA and will use it with MRA for a trip to Noordkaap this June - I assume everything will work fine and I will let you know my experiences afterwards.

Do you have an update, please ?

[PieterG]

@b0hd1 said:

@Ed-Lauwerens-0 Bring an alternative navigation system. There are quite a few reports of problems with the R7M...

I do not consider your criticism of the Ridernav R7M to be representative of the bigger picture. Contrary to what you claim, and based on my 3000km of experience, I actually see a very different picture. There are also many solid, comprehensive, and positive Ridernav R7M reviews. (for anyone: go take a look for yourself )

[Lenny O]

@PieterG Hi, Pieter!
Thank you for chiming in with your comments, I appreciate it.
My goal was to have a larger screen than my Zumo XT and my phone in a carplay unit that would operate the MRA Navigation App just like I see it on my phone. (Maybe that part is unrealistic)
So, for me R7M failed on screen size and the MRA NAV operation, thus rendering getting one pointless.
Oh, well.... The search continues

[PieterG]

@Lenny-O You're welcome ;-).

Please keep in mind that no matter what type of Smart Display you buy, you always have to deal with the following architecture:

Smartphone Hardware
↓
Operating System
Android / iOS
↓
Application
Google Maps, MRA, Kurviger, Sygic, Waze, etc.
↓
Projection Platform
Android Auto / Apple CarPlay >> This is where it is determined what you see on the screen and how it is displayed.
↓
Communication Layer
Wi-Fi & Bluetooth
↓
Smart Display Hardware
Ridernav R7M, Chigee AIO-5/6, Carpuride, Aoocci, etc.
↓
Smart Display Firmware / Operating System
↓
Human-Machine Interface (HMI) >> There may also be differences here in the way the information is presented.
Display, touchscreen

So, all models display the same app interface on the screen, because it is determined by the Android Auto / Apple CarPlay layer.

If you're looking for a Smart Display (not a tablet or iPad) larger than 7 inches, the choice is very limited: I don't know of any good examples.

[Lenny O]

@PieterG Thank you for this, as the carplay area is totally new to me. I use Garmin for years, but now want to run the MRA Nav, because I di believe that it it the best and has grteat future to get even better!

So may I ask you ( or anyone else) to tell me the 2 top carplay options to run MRA NAV (as in the best / closest screen layout with the least screen functionality lost, while having a bright and readable screen, and work with the Wonder Wheel) in 2 scenarious:

1. Cost is no factor:
   A?
   B?

2. Staying on the reasonable budget (sort of like R7M).
   A?
   B?
   Thank you!

[M. Schrijver]

All Carplay and Android Auto device are sort of the same. The limitations on the devices does not come from the brands but they come from Apple and Google.
There are lot of brands, screen sizes, screen ratios and resolutions.

Take a look at the specs of popular brands like Chigee and Carpuride. These specs simply work. Every other brand which has more or less the same spec, should behave the same.
Max screen brightness is one of the big differences between the devices. Which results in different prices. Because the screen is one of the major parts of a device.