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  • RonPundefined RonP

    I travel by motorhome and the option of setting restrictions, whether height or weight, is crucial for me in navigation.

    I assume that after entering MRA Navigation Next in the configuration, these conditions are checked when the route is launched.

    During route calculation I get the message "Route violation. Check route for warnings". While on a 200-300 km route it can be reviewed manually, on a route of several thousand km it is inconvenient.

    Is there an option like "show me points where there is a route violation"?

    When I reviewed it manually, sometimes it is a warning about U-turn. It is worse when there is a limit on the weight or dimensions of the camper.

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    Nomko Nomden
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    @RonP Can you provide us with a link to that route? Make sure you set it to public. Thanks!

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    • Nomko Nomdenundefined Nomko Nomden

      @RonP Can you provide us with a link to that route? Make sure you set it to public. Thanks!

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      @Nomko-Nomden I created simple route with 3 points:
      https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10449804?mode=share

      During calculation for Motorhome there is info about "route violation".
      IMG_9878.jpg

      if you zoom in on 2nd point very closely (but really very closely) you'll see warning about U-turn:
      IMG_9877.jpg

      Without very close zoom in you can't see it:
      IMG_9876.jpg

      Even in short route it could be a problem.
      U-turn or seasonally closed roads are less issue compare to weight or height limitation. Especially that it could be not on waypoint but could be just on route which you have zoom in very closely to see it.

      That's why list of such violation will be very useful.

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      • RonPundefined RonP

        @Nomko-Nomden I created simple route with 3 points:
        https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10449804?mode=share

        During calculation for Motorhome there is info about "route violation".
        IMG_9878.jpg

        if you zoom in on 2nd point very closely (but really very closely) you'll see warning about U-turn:
        IMG_9877.jpg

        Without very close zoom in you can't see it:
        IMG_9876.jpg

        Even in short route it could be a problem.
        U-turn or seasonally closed roads are less issue compare to weight or height limitation. Especially that it could be not on waypoint but could be just on route which you have zoom in very closely to see it.

        That's why list of such violation will be very useful.

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        @RonP I think i see why you have an error. you placed route point 2 in the middle of a building!

        That's why you get the error's. Best is to place route point 2 on the parking lot or back on the street.

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        • Nomko Nomdenundefined Nomko Nomden

          @RonP I think i see why you have an error. you placed route point 2 in the middle of a building!

          That's why you get the error's. Best is to place route point 2 on the parking lot or back on the street.

          e041cf9c-df52-4f20-85b0-cfff2072d1d2-image.png

          7eb0918f-0599-423c-99cd-e6d67de3e930-image.png

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          RonP
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          @Nomko-Nomden got it - but that doesn't solve my problem.

          It's hard to review whole route to find where is a "bug".

          That's why I'm looking for some list of such violated points. Because there could be real issue with height/weight and want to know where exactly - not by reviewing in huge zooom the whole route. Even short one.
          Especially that I moved that point to road and still there is warning in navigation but now I can't find where.

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          • RonPundefined RonP

            I travel by motorhome and the option of setting restrictions, whether height or weight, is crucial for me in navigation.

            I assume that after entering MRA Navigation Next in the configuration, these conditions are checked when the route is launched.

            During route calculation I get the message "Route violation. Check route for warnings". While on a 200-300 km route it can be reviewed manually, on a route of several thousand km it is inconvenient.

            Is there an option like "show me points where there is a route violation"?

            When I reviewed it manually, sometimes it is a warning about U-turn. It is worse when there is a limit on the weight or dimensions of the camper.

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            Marinus van Deudekom
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            @RonP in the Web module there is such a possibility but I suspect that in the development of the new web module this will be one of the features, at least I hope to πŸ˜‰
            If you make routes of more than a couple of hundred km you best split those in several day trips. I guess you're not racing with your RV

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            • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

              @RonP in the Web module there is such a possibility but I suspect that in the development of the new web module this will be one of the features, at least I hope to πŸ˜‰
              If you make routes of more than a couple of hundred km you best split those in several day trips. I guess you're not racing with your RV

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              RonP
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              @Marinus-van-Deudekom I hope it'll be in near future in navigation module πŸ™‚

              Of course split it to one-day parts is kind of solution but still as showed on my really short route it's not easy to find where is possible problem.

              I keep my fingers crossed that such functionality will soon be found in the navigation. Especially since it is being checked and a general message is displayed, so it is a matter of displaying a list with problematic places.

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              • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                @RonP in the Web module there is such a possibility but I suspect that in the development of the new web module this will be one of the features, at least I hope to πŸ˜‰
                If you make routes of more than a couple of hundred km you best split those in several day trips. I guess you're not racing with your RV

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                @Marinus-van-Deudekom hope so to just help a guy who hat problems with his route and thought the glitches in his route was his fault. I zoomed in on the route and saw that the road was closed but the icons onle showed up when I zoomed in very close.

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                  I'd like to add a vote to being warned about route violations when planning. I'm on a riding holiday from the UK through France, Belgium, Luxembourg, Germany, Austria and Italy. All my routes were planned months ago having selected to avoid tolls.
                  I keep having to pay tolls!!!!!
                  Apparently it's not me, the planner can ignore my no tolls instruction. Then on the day of the ride it might let me know at the start of navigation. I'm far from convinced that android auto users get that warning.

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                  • RetiredWingManundefined Offline
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                    I agree that the web planner should issue warnings. Hopefully this will be addressed 8n the upcoming rewrite.

                    2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                    • Lex.Kloet.RXundefined Offline
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                      Lex.Kloet.RX
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                      I have travelled some 8.000km with my camper in combination with MRA, without any problems.
                      In the planningstage, it will simply reroute when you have a violation. You will not be warned. And don't be stubborn and try to push the route somewhere it isn't allowed or can't drive through. I had this with a route, tried to reroute by inserting waypoints, but route was terrible. Streetview showed, that I wanted to pass a tunnel with a height of 2,75m. My camper is 2,95m πŸ™ˆ
                      In ridingstage, I have never had this warning, when following the route. I once had to take a detour and had this warning. In this case I was not allowed to pass a road because of the weight. The app recalculated and everything was fine.
                      I agree with @Marinus-van-Deudekom check the position of all your waypoints. You must work very precise making a tour, or you get a lot of unnecessary warnings.

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