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SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA

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  • Makroundefined Offline
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    I purchased a SilverFox C1 controller. It's connected to my Samsung galaxy tab active 3.
    It works partially 😕

    I set the C1 to F2 mode, according to the MRA support page.
    The MRApp is set to use SilverFox in the input settings menu.

    In F2 mode, the left button works fine (button 2 according to the support page). So, I can zoom in and out, and change the map view (north up etc).
    During navigation, if I long press its right button, the navigation menu opens (with stop navigation, lock screen etc).

    Button 1 however does not work at all im MRA. So I cannot pan/move the map. And in a MRA menu I cannot move up and down.

    Silverfox controller problems can be ruled out. In F1 mode, both buttons work perfectly in Waze, including pan. So, only MRA has a problem.

    Any ideas?

    Best regards, Makro

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    • Makroundefined Makro

      I purchased a SilverFox C1 controller. It's connected to my Samsung galaxy tab active 3.
      It works partially 😕

      I set the C1 to F2 mode, according to the MRA support page.
      The MRApp is set to use SilverFox in the input settings menu.

      In F2 mode, the left button works fine (button 2 according to the support page). So, I can zoom in and out, and change the map view (north up etc).
      During navigation, if I long press its right button, the navigation menu opens (with stop navigation, lock screen etc).

      Button 1 however does not work at all im MRA. So I cannot pan/move the map. And in a MRA menu I cannot move up and down.

      Silverfox controller problems can be ruled out. In F1 mode, both buttons work perfectly in Waze, including pan. So, only MRA has a problem.

      Any ideas?

      Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
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      Marinus van Deudekom
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      @Makro dus you update the module from the Silverfox site. That could solve the problem

      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
      Honda Silverwing GL 650
      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
      Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
      Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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      • Makroundefined Offline
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        Yes I also updated the firmware to the latest version 1.1 to see if that solved it. Nothing changed.

        Best regards, Makro

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        • Makroundefined Makro

          Yes I also updated the firmware to the latest version 1.1 to see if that solved it. Nothing changed.

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          Marinus van Deudekom
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          @Makro did you Connect it with Bluetooth

          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
          Honda Silverwing GL 650
          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
          Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
          Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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          • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

            @Makro did you Connect it with Bluetooth

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            @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA:

            @Makro did you Connect it with Bluetooth

            Yes via Bluetooth

            Best regards, Makro

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            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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              What do the buttons show as "output" when going to this site: https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/keypress-tester/

              • Open the website
              • Connect SilverFox
              • Press buttons

              I am curious what the panning joystick (the one that does not work) outputs in F2 mode.

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              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                What do the buttons show as "output" when going to this site: https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/keypress-tester/

                • Open the website
                • Connect SilverFox
                • Press buttons

                I am curious what the panning joystick (the one that does not work) outputs in F2 mode.

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                @Corjan-Meijerink said in SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA:

                What do the buttons show as "output" when going to this site: https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/keypress-tester/

                It's a bit weird.
                In F2, only button 2 (the one working with MRA) sends characters to that web site. Button 1 clicks are not registered on the Web site.

                In F1 none of the buttons register anything. But as mentioned previously, both buttons work fine in F1 with Waze. So the C1 does send some keys in F1 mode, but these are not registered on the Web site.

                Best regards, Makro

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                • Makroundefined Makro

                  @Corjan-Meijerink said in SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA:

                  What do the buttons show as "output" when going to this site: https://jaxeadv.com/barbuttons/keypress-tester/

                  It's a bit weird.
                  In F2, only button 2 (the one working with MRA) sends characters to that web site. Button 1 clicks are not registered on the Web site.

                  In F1 none of the buttons register anything. But as mentioned previously, both buttons work fine in F1 with Waze. So the C1 does send some keys in F1 mode, but these are not registered on the Web site.

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                  @Makro Hi Marco,
                  I have a different problem with my C1 controller (the first joystick doesn't work when zooming out)
                  All other tasks are performing perfectly.
                  The second panning stick works in all directions.
                  I also think that MRA could be the source of the problem.

                  I have a ticket on this and Corjan knows my case.

                  I have documented all clicks with the two sticks as screenshots and stored them in the ticket.

                  Maybe you can also take screenshots of the respective clicks and send them to Corjan.

                  Maybe Corjan can narrow down the error and fix it.

                  BMW R 1250 GS
                  MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                  BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                  SPC Universal mount
                  Motorola Edge 40
                  Sena SLR 3
                  Sena 50 R

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                    I just realized how to fix this. Well not entirely.

                    The SilverFox Buttons app say I need to enable the accessibility service in Android. So I did this before testing MRA. If I had not done so, MRA would work fine.
                    This is located in Settings, accessibility, installed apps, Controller Accessibility.
                    Enabling this has some implications. MRA does not work properly, and the onscreen web key logger (Corjans link) does not register all clicks.

                    So I can use either Buttons app or MRA, but not both. Unless I change the accessibility setting in between.

                    Best regards, Makro

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                      So disabling that Android setting was the fix? Now it works as expected?

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                      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                        So disabling that Android setting was the fix? Now it works as expected?

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                        @Corjan-Meijerink The Button App is needed, for example, using Google Maps in F1 mode. When I have the Button App installed, MRA generally works incorrectly.
                        Riku knows this and referred me to the DMD forum...but unfortunately, no one there answers...Riku himself contacted the DMD forum, and Joao told him he'd like to look into the topic sometime...that was about two months ago.
                        I don't have the Button App installed anymore, and as I said, everything works (only zooming out doesn't work).

                        BMW R 1250 GS
                        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                        BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                        SPC Universal mount
                        Motorola Edge 40
                        Sena SLR 3
                        Sena 50 R

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                        • Arjan de Vriesundefined Offline
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                          If you contact SIlverfox you can get the latest firmware which is still in testing fase. I did that and everything works.

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                          • Arjan de Vriesundefined Arjan de Vries

                            If you contact SIlverfox you can get the latest firmware which is still in testing fase. I did that and everything works.

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                            @Arjan-de-Vries Firmware update 1.2 already done, I even received a replacement unit from SilverFox. Unfortunately, zooming out is still not possible.

                            BMW R 1250 GS
                            MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                            BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                            SPC Universal mount
                            Motorola Edge 40
                            Sena SLR 3
                            Sena 50 R

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                            • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                              @Arjan-de-Vries Firmware update 1.2 already done, I even received a replacement unit from SilverFox. Unfortunately, zooming out is still not possible.

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                              @Peter-Zehentreiter last week I received update 1.6 from Riku

                              Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                              Honda Silverwing GL 650
                              DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                              Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                              Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                              • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                                @Peter-Zehentreiter last week I received update 1.6 from Riku

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                                @Marinus-van-Deudekom I find it hard to believe the problem is with the C1 controller. Riku thoroughly tested the replacement device for functionality before sending it to me. The controller works even when I use other apps with it.
                                Only zooming out in MRA doesn't work.

                                Centering the map, switching to different modes, skipping waypoints, zooming in, everything works. Moving the map... all without problems. As already mentioned... I've created a ticket and hope Corjan will find the error.

                                BMW R 1250 GS
                                MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                SPC Universal mount
                                Motorola Edge 40
                                Sena SLR 3
                                Sena 50 R

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                                • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                                  @Peter-Zehentreiter last week I received update 1.6 from Riku

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                                  @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in SilverFox C1 button not working in MRA:

                                  @Peter-Zehentreiter last week I received update 1.6 from Riku

                                  What does the 1.6 do instead of the 1.2?

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                                    C1 has 1.2 update
                                    H1 has 1.6

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