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    @Con-Hennekens said in Feature request in myroute web and myroute app:

    @ginogino, In my experience having no internet connection and having no cellphone connection goes about hand in hand, but technically you might be right.

    <pedant mode on>
    Different services need different bandwidths.

    A phone call needs a synchronous two way connection - not easy in the middle of nowhere.

    The same for web browsing, but it's asynchronous, so slightly better - you can request a page and wait say 60s for a reply.

    But if you're ever in the middle of nowhere and need to contact someone then SMS (not Whatsapp, Chat, FB, etc) is the most efficient way to transmit a very small amount of data.

    In the UK you can use SMS to contact the emergency services, but you need to pre-register:
    https://www.relayuk.bt.com/how-to-use-relay-uk/contact-999-using-relay-uk.html
    Very useful if you're in the mountains.

    And yes, I know some high-end phones now have satellitte connectivity, but I'm thinking about a normal person in the middle of the Scottish Highlands. It will take a few years before that is ubiquitous.

    Just saying.
    <pedant mode off!>

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    • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

      @Adrian-Avram if your goal would be to improve MRA I would be with you, but…… you often give the impression of stating the everything is better at Osmond.

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      @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Feature request in myroute web and myroute app:

      you often give the impression of stating the everything is better at Osmond

      Because until now it is ! No offence to the developers, but there are a lot of posts with issues that can back this up.....

      Best regards,
      Adrian

      Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
      MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
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      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA, I like valid arguments like this one! 😉

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        @Con-Hennekens said in Feature request in myroute web and myroute app:

        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA, I like valid arguments like this one! 😉

        And so I raise another request, again related to places to eat or sleep, in myroute web with google maps you can see the restaurants, hotels, etc., but you can't see the data (reviews, opening times, etc.) and so you have to go and find them separately on google maps, it would be much better to open the page pointing to the data of the restaurant, hotel, etc. on google maps directly from myroute web.
        As for being able to make phone calls, in the mountains in the middle of the valleys it often happens that there is no 5g or 4g signal and if it goes well there is a GPRS signal, but you can make decent calls.

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        • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

          @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in Feature request in myroute web and myroute app:

          you often give the impression of stating the everything is better at Osmond

          Because until now it is ! No offence to the developers, but there are a lot of posts with issues that can back this up.....

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          @Adrian-Avram
          22ccd909-c74a-4493-9495-ffbfc5729bb2-image.png
          I agree with the others, you already indicated that you have given up on MRA and with every question from someone else you come up with big screen shots of the software of another Navigation app you prefer with the confirmation that they are better. After a few times this gets very annoying.

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          • ginoginoundefined ginogino

            @Con-Hennekens said in Feature request in myroute web and myroute app:

            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA, I like valid arguments like this one! 😉

            And so I raise another request, again related to places to eat or sleep, in myroute web with google maps you can see the restaurants, hotels, etc., but you can't see the data (reviews, opening times, etc.) and so you have to go and find them separately on google maps, it would be much better to open the page pointing to the data of the restaurant, hotel, etc. on google maps directly from myroute web.
            As for being able to make phone calls, in the mountains in the middle of the valleys it often happens that there is no 5g or 4g signal and if it goes well there is a GPRS signal, but you can make decent calls.

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            @ginogino said in Feature request in myroute web and myroute app:

            And so I raise another request, again related to places to eat or sleep, in myroute web with google maps you can see the restaurants, hotels, etc., but you can't see the data (reviews, opening times, etc.) and so you have to go and find them separately on google maps, it would be much better to open the page pointing to the data of the restaurant, hotel, etc. on google maps directly from myroute web.
            As for being able to make phone calls, in the mountains in the middle of the valleys it often happens that there is no 5g or 4g signal and if it goes well there is a GPRS signal, but you can make decent calls.

            I fully understand your request, but that would mean that MRA have to maintain a database with all of this data. You can link to the Google data by using there API, but you have to pay for the traffic it generates.

            The team could extend the POI database with 2 fields from the GPX1.1 schema, where the "Linktype"and "Email" could be functional.
            Knipsel.JPG
            In this way you can also export it to other devices.

            I worked around this limitation and import the POI into Excel, get the address from the coordinates with the (personal) Google API key ( I place brackets on the field I want the address and get them in batch). Limitation is that if you request to much data, Google will send a bill 😞

            79cdce4d-56a4-429e-8e80-a64433da2cfc-image.png

            and import it again in MRA with the address data

            28614947-928f-4aeb-8ec2-60e2d16d76c0-image.png

            If you want to have the data into for example Garmin, place a Viapoint and a POI on the same point

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            • BertMundefined BertM

              @ginogino said in Feature request in myroute web and myroute app:

              And so I raise another request, again related to places to eat or sleep, in myroute web with google maps you can see the restaurants, hotels, etc., but you can't see the data (reviews, opening times, etc.) and so you have to go and find them separately on google maps, it would be much better to open the page pointing to the data of the restaurant, hotel, etc. on google maps directly from myroute web.
              As for being able to make phone calls, in the mountains in the middle of the valleys it often happens that there is no 5g or 4g signal and if it goes well there is a GPRS signal, but you can make decent calls.

              I fully understand your request, but that would mean that MRA have to maintain a database with all of this data. You can link to the Google data by using there API, but you have to pay for the traffic it generates.

              The team could extend the POI database with 2 fields from the GPX1.1 schema, where the "Linktype"and "Email" could be functional.
              Knipsel.JPG
              In this way you can also export it to other devices.

              I worked around this limitation and import the POI into Excel, get the address from the coordinates with the (personal) Google API key ( I place brackets on the field I want the address and get them in batch). Limitation is that if you request to much data, Google will send a bill 😞

              79cdce4d-56a4-429e-8e80-a64433da2cfc-image.png

              and import it again in MRA with the address data

              28614947-928f-4aeb-8ec2-60e2d16d76c0-image.png

              If you want to have the data into for example Garmin, place a Viapoint and a POI on the same point

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              ginogino
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              @BertM

              I have not made myself clear enough, I am not asking for the google maps data to be incorporated into myroute web, that would be an enormous and disproportionate amount of work and resources, but that from myroute web we can directly open another window in the browser on the google maps site already positioned at the location chosen in myroute web to facilitate localisation.

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              • ginoginoundefined ginogino

                @BertM

                I have not made myself clear enough, I am not asking for the google maps data to be incorporated into myroute web, that would be an enormous and disproportionate amount of work and resources, but that from myroute web we can directly open another window in the browser on the google maps site already positioned at the location chosen in myroute web to facilitate localisation.

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                @ginogino, I think Google will qualify that as commercial use of their platform, and send a bill to MRA (who in turn has to up the subscription fee to their customers).

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                • ginoginoundefined ginogino

                  @BertM

                  I have not made myself clear enough, I am not asking for the google maps data to be incorporated into myroute web, that would be an enormous and disproportionate amount of work and resources, but that from myroute web we can directly open another window in the browser on the google maps site already positioned at the location chosen in myroute web to facilitate localisation.

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                  @ginogino said in Feature request in myroute web and myroute app:

                  @BertM
                  I have not made myself clear enough, I am not asking for the google maps data to be incorporated into myroute web, that would be an enormous and disproportionate amount of work and resources, but that from myroute web we can directly open another window in the browser on the google maps site already positioned at the location chosen in myroute web to facilitate localisation.

                  Clear, I misunderstood. that should not be a problem to do that with for example a right click event.

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @ginogino, I think Google will qualify that as commercial use of their platform, and send a bill to MRA (who in turn has to up the subscription fee to their customers).

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                    @Con-Hennekens said in Feature request in myroute web and myroute app:

                    @ginogino, I think Google will qualify that as commercial use of their platform, and send a bill to MRA (who in turn has to up the subscription fee to their customers).

                    No, this can be done with a hyperlink without API.

                    Here the link to get to the Rijksmuseum 🙂
                    https://www.google.com/maps?q=52°21'33.9"N 4°53'07.4"E

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                    • BertMundefined BertM

                      @Con-Hennekens said in Feature request in myroute web and myroute app:

                      @ginogino, I think Google will qualify that as commercial use of their platform, and send a bill to MRA (who in turn has to up the subscription fee to their customers).

                      No, this can be done with a hyperlink without API.

                      Here the link to get to the Rijksmuseum 🙂
                      https://www.google.com/maps?q=52°21'33.9"N 4°53'07.4"E

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                      @BertM, I know, but I am still not convinced that generating such links from within a commercial app (not public) is not limited by terms.

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Offline
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                        All this data can be added to a POI:
                        <wpt lat="51.440777778625488" lon="5.718791484832764">
                        <time>2025-04-24T13:16:36Z</time>
                        <name>Brabants Kwartierke</name>
                        <cmt>Brabants Kwartierke
                        Bij Oostappen 4a
                        5756, Vlierden, NB, NLD
                        0493312273</cmt>
                        <desc>Brabants Kwartierke
                        Bij Oostappen 4a
                        5756, Vlierden, NB, NLD
                        0493312273</desc>
                        <sym>Lodging</sym>
                        <type>user</type>
                        <extensions>
                        gpxx:WaypointExtension
                        gpxx:DisplayModeSymbolAndName</gpxx:DisplayMode>
                        gpxx:Address
                        gpxx:StreetAddressBij Oostappen 4a</gpxx:StreetAddress>
                        gpxx:CityVlierden</gpxx:City>
                        gpxx:StateNB</gpxx:State>
                        gpxx:CountryNLD</gpxx:Country>
                        gpxx:PostalCode5756</gpxx:PostalCode>
                        </gpxx:Address>
                        gpxx:PhoneNumber0493312273</gpxx:PhoneNumber>
                        </gpxx:WaypointExtension>
                        wptx1:WaypointExtension
                        wptx1:DisplayModeSymbolAndName</wptx1:DisplayMode>
                        wptx1:Address
                        wptx1:StreetAddressBij Oostappen 4a</wptx1:StreetAddress>
                        wptx1:CityVlierden</wptx1:City>
                        wptx1:StateNB</wptx1:State>
                        wptx1:CountryNLD</wptx1:Country>
                        wptx1:PostalCode5756</wptx1:PostalCode>
                        </wptx1:Address>
                        wptx1:PhoneNumber0493312273</wptx1:PhoneNumber>
                        </wptx1:WaypointExtension>
                        ctx:CreationTimeExtension
                        ctx:CreationTime2025-04-24T13:16:36Z</ctx:CreationTime>
                        </ctx:CreationTimeExtension>
                        </extensions>
                        </wpt>

                        Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                        Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                        • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                          All this data can be added to a POI:
                          <wpt lat="51.440777778625488" lon="5.718791484832764">
                          <time>2025-04-24T13:16:36Z</time>
                          <name>Brabants Kwartierke</name>
                          <cmt>Brabants Kwartierke
                          Bij Oostappen 4a
                          5756, Vlierden, NB, NLD
                          0493312273</cmt>
                          <desc>Brabants Kwartierke
                          Bij Oostappen 4a
                          5756, Vlierden, NB, NLD
                          0493312273</desc>
                          <sym>Lodging</sym>
                          <type>user</type>
                          <extensions>
                          gpxx:WaypointExtension
                          gpxx:DisplayModeSymbolAndName</gpxx:DisplayMode>
                          gpxx:Address
                          gpxx:StreetAddressBij Oostappen 4a</gpxx:StreetAddress>
                          gpxx:CityVlierden</gpxx:City>
                          gpxx:StateNB</gpxx:State>
                          gpxx:CountryNLD</gpxx:Country>
                          gpxx:PostalCode5756</gpxx:PostalCode>
                          </gpxx:Address>
                          gpxx:PhoneNumber0493312273</gpxx:PhoneNumber>
                          </gpxx:WaypointExtension>
                          wptx1:WaypointExtension
                          wptx1:DisplayModeSymbolAndName</wptx1:DisplayMode>
                          wptx1:Address
                          wptx1:StreetAddressBij Oostappen 4a</wptx1:StreetAddress>
                          wptx1:CityVlierden</wptx1:City>
                          wptx1:StateNB</wptx1:State>
                          wptx1:CountryNLD</wptx1:Country>
                          wptx1:PostalCode5756</wptx1:PostalCode>
                          </wptx1:Address>
                          wptx1:PhoneNumber0493312273</wptx1:PhoneNumber>
                          </wptx1:WaypointExtension>
                          ctx:CreationTimeExtension
                          ctx:CreationTime2025-04-24T13:16:36Z</ctx:CreationTime>
                          </ctx:CreationTimeExtension>
                          </extensions>
                          </wpt>

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                          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA

                          Pleaae explain me how to do that in MRA., as I can only add the description.
                          Also with a GPX import these values are not transferred

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                          • BertMundefined BertM

                            @ginogino said in Feature request in myroute web and myroute app:

                            @BertM
                            I have not made myself clear enough, I am not asking for the google maps data to be incorporated into myroute web, that would be an enormous and disproportionate amount of work and resources, but that from myroute web we can directly open another window in the browser on the google maps site already positioned at the location chosen in myroute web to facilitate localisation.

                            Clear, I misunderstood. that should not be a problem to do that with for example a right click event.

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                            @BertM said in Feature request in myroute web and myroute app:

                            @ginogino said in Feature request in myroute web and myroute app:

                            @BertM
                            

                            I have not made myself clear enough, I am not asking for the google maps data to be incorporated into myroute web, that would be an enormous and disproportionate amount of work and resources, but that from myroute web we can directly open another window in the browser on the google maps site already positioned at the location chosen in myroute web to facilitate localisation.

                            Clear, I misunderstood. that should not be a problem to do that with for example a right click event.

                            That's exactly what I meant.

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