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Team, i gave up. I'm back at OsmAnd.

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  • Ton Machielsenundefined Ton Machielsen

    I came here from OsmAnd. Not sure what it was that i liked so much about MRA that made me switch. Maybe because it's dutch and so am i, but the whole missing waypoint issue is making me nervous. When i look back on my trips i did with MRA, there was literally NOT ONE where RMA followed the route without problems.
    I accept that it was mostly my problem with not putting the waypoints where they need to be, but i never had this issue with OsmAnd. I create my routes on Kurviger, export them to GPX and load them into MRA, now OsmAnd, and ride them. Maybe MRA is more a route planner than a track follower where in OsmAnd the focus is on track vs. route.
    Whenever RMA will be able to follow the route it planned for me (the black line) and not focus this much on finding waypoints, maybe i will come back. But for now it's OsmAnd again.

    See you guys on the road! Ride safe!!

    Ton.

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    Guzzist
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    #2

    @Ton-Machielsen because MRA-Routeplanner and MyRoute-App can do a lot more as Kurviger, Calimoto and others - you will have a learning phase in the beginning!

    Same, if you are coming from another App to OsmAnd. This is also not easy to understand!

    Be patient, read the instructions, do some training in your neighborhood, ask the community - befor you start a journey.

    I have used a lot of other tools - spend a lot of time to learn. Because non of them are comparable to others, but now I love MyRouteApp.

    Nothing is impossible ;-)
    In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
    In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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    • Guzzistundefined Guzzist

      @Ton-Machielsen because MRA-Routeplanner and MyRoute-App can do a lot more as Kurviger, Calimoto and others - you will have a learning phase in the beginning!

      Same, if you are coming from another App to OsmAnd. This is also not easy to understand!

      Be patient, read the instructions, do some training in your neighborhood, ask the community - befor you start a journey.

      I have used a lot of other tools - spend a lot of time to learn. Because non of them are comparable to others, but now I love MyRouteApp.

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      Ton Machielsen
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      #3

      @Guzzist Thanks for the encouragement.
      I used OsmAnd for a year or so and yes, i fell in love with MRA. But, as i said, the fact that, for whatever reason, i keep losing waypoints and it's not easy to recover from this situation (other than to stop, grab the phone, stop navigating and restart, store the phone and continue) i need to give my brain a rest and move back into my comfort zone which is OsmAnd.
      Honestly, i think that OsmAnd does A LOT that i don't need and it takes a while to get things tuned in, but i have that now, so.... I actually noticed today that after 6 months not using OsmAnd i still had my config stored in their cloud, so all my old tracks, config, settings, everything except maps were still there. So that start was pretty quickly.

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        wat best mogelijk is dat het probleem zit in de kaarten. kurviger en osmand gebruiken osm en MRA next Here. Mra zal dus blijven proberen de route via de here kaart laten gaan op basis van je osm track. mijn ervaring is ook dat dat niet altijd optimaal werkt. ik maak ook tracks in kurviger maar laad die eerst in MRA routeplanner en vergelijk die dan met daar gemaakte kopie in here kaart. dan pas ik route aan zodat hij wel gelijk is aan track.

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        • Ton Machielsenundefined Ton Machielsen

          I came here from OsmAnd. Not sure what it was that i liked so much about MRA that made me switch. Maybe because it's dutch and so am i, but the whole missing waypoint issue is making me nervous. When i look back on my trips i did with MRA, there was literally NOT ONE where RMA followed the route without problems.
          I accept that it was mostly my problem with not putting the waypoints where they need to be, but i never had this issue with OsmAnd. I create my routes on Kurviger, export them to GPX and load them into MRA, now OsmAnd, and ride them. Maybe MRA is more a route planner than a track follower where in OsmAnd the focus is on track vs. route.
          Whenever RMA will be able to follow the route it planned for me (the black line) and not focus this much on finding waypoints, maybe i will come back. But for now it's OsmAnd again.

          See you guys on the road! Ride safe!!

          Ton.

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          Adrian Avram
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          #5

          @Ton-Machielsen same for me, gave up on MRA because lately its just not working as it should, or like the older versions (which worked just fine for me) and now I am back to Osmand ! It's flawless !

          Best regards,
          Adrian

          Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
          MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
          Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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          • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

            @Ton-Machielsen same for me, gave up on MRA because lately its just not working as it should, or like the older versions (which worked just fine for me) and now I am back to Osmand ! It's flawless !

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            Marinus van Deudekom
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            #6

            @Adrian-Avram I don't agree with you. Most of the erors come from user mistakes of wrong guesses. It is an easy app but like all easy apps there are a couple of rules you must follow in order for the app to work properly. It has been said, look at the videos, the vlogs for Denise or even better take a couple of classes in the MRA accademy. Thgey are free of costs and ik will help you creating and understanding MRA. Once you get the hang of it the fun starts. Until then be gentle to yourself and others.
            We will help you as best as we can.

            Honda Goldwing GL1500,
            Honda Silverwing GL 650
            DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
            Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
            Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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            • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

              @Adrian-Avram I don't agree with you. Most of the erors come from user mistakes of wrong guesses. It is an easy app but like all easy apps there are a couple of rules you must follow in order for the app to work properly. It has been said, look at the videos, the vlogs for Denise or even better take a couple of classes in the MRA accademy. Thgey are free of costs and ik will help you creating and understanding MRA. Once you get the hang of it the fun starts. Until then be gentle to yourself and others.
              We will help you as best as we can.

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              Ton Machielsen
              wrote on last edited by Ton Machielsen
              #7

              @Marinus-van-Deudekom I think a routing app that needs an academy is a whole issue on itself. Especially with so many alternatives on the market.
              OsmAnd is not an easy app either, but at least it does what people expect it to do and you only need the manual if you want it to do something special. You don’t need to need an academy for that.

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              • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                @Adrian-Avram I don't agree with you. Most of the erors come from user mistakes of wrong guesses. It is an easy app but like all easy apps there are a couple of rules you must follow in order for the app to work properly. It has been said, look at the videos, the vlogs for Denise or even better take a couple of classes in the MRA accademy. Thgey are free of costs and ik will help you creating and understanding MRA. Once you get the hang of it the fun starts. Until then be gentle to yourself and others.
                We will help you as best as we can.

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                @Marinus-van-Deudekom the thing is I am not a new user, I have used this app for a year, planned 2 euro trips .... It worked fine before the last 2 updates, and I used it the same as before ! So yes, the issue is the app, not the user, in my case !

                Best regards,
                Adrian

                Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
                MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                • Bouke Entundefined Bouke Ent

                  wat best mogelijk is dat het probleem zit in de kaarten. kurviger en osmand gebruiken osm en MRA next Here. Mra zal dus blijven proberen de route via de here kaart laten gaan op basis van je osm track. mijn ervaring is ook dat dat niet altijd optimaal werkt. ik maak ook tracks in kurviger maar laad die eerst in MRA routeplanner en vergelijk die dan met daar gemaakte kopie in here kaart. dan pas ik route aan zodat hij wel gelijk is aan track.

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                  @Bouke-Ent Ik denk dat mijn enige probleem is dat ik verwacht dat als RMA een track maakt van een route (route is weg tussen twee waypoints en track is de zwarte lijn die daar uit voortkomt), dat RMA die track dan gewoon volgt. Dat doet het alleen niet. Plus het feit dat als er ook maar iets mis gaat met de waypoints, dat je dan niks anders kunt doen dan stoppen en opnieuw beginnen. Dat is gewoon niet te doen op een motorfiets.

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                  • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

                    @Marinus-van-Deudekom the thing is I am not a new user, I have used this app for a year, planned 2 euro trips .... It worked fine before the last 2 updates, and I used it the same as before ! So yes, the issue is the app, not the user, in my case !

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                    @Adrian-Avram I guess you're still wrong. The app is getting better with every update. Yes not alway perfect but if a problem occurs, like in the update 384 the team quickly repairs the fault. If you have problems ask for help and we will give it to you. A kind question will be returned with is kind answer.
                    As in your case the problems started with the last 2 updates, contact the devs because the rest of us don't have these problems.

                    Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                    Honda Silverwing GL 650
                    DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                    Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                    Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                    • Ton Machielsenundefined Ton Machielsen

                      @Marinus-van-Deudekom I think a routing app that needs an academy is a whole issue on itself. Especially with so many alternatives on the market.
                      OsmAnd is not an easy app either, but at least it does what people expect it to do and you only need the manual if you want it to do something special. You don’t need to need an academy for that.

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                      Marinus van Deudekom
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                      @Ton-Machielsen The app doesn't need an academy but we find it most helpfull if users help[ themselves with the provided tools te gather information.

                      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                      Honda Silverwing GL 650
                      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                      Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                      Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                        @Ton-Machielsen The app doesn't need an academy but we find it most helpfull if users help[ themselves with the provided tools te gather information.

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                        #12

                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom Probably an explanation for anything can be found always. MRA is just not for me. Either I don’t understand it or I don’t put enough effort in it, or both.
                        I expect it to do what all other routing software does. I’m only using it because it’s one of the few routing software that works on the CarPlay. But if until now I haven’t been able to successfully use the software for one single route, then either I am dumb, something is wrong with the software or we are just not made for each other. Simple as that.
                        BTW… d0f19613-036c-4247-9e81-9eac6a1cd414-image.png

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                          I have never read the MRA manual at all. Judging from the questions being asked here, I don't think many people do. I do not consider myself a prodigee 😉 so there must be SOME logic to the app. For me it works excellently. But hey, to prefer another app is perfectly fine of course.

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                            For me the app works great. All the foulds i encountered could be explained be something i didn't set right in my route or the setup of the app.

                            Voor mij werkt de app geweldig. Alle fouten die ik tegenkwam, konden worden verklaard door iets dat ik niet goed had ingesteld in mijn route of de setup van de app.

                            Van Zumo 550 naar Navigator V naar Carpe iter V4b met MRA

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                            • Ton Machielsenundefined Ton Machielsen

                              @Bouke-Ent Ik denk dat mijn enige probleem is dat ik verwacht dat als RMA een track maakt van een route (route is weg tussen twee waypoints en track is de zwarte lijn die daar uit voortkomt), dat RMA die track dan gewoon volgt. Dat doet het alleen niet. Plus het feit dat als er ook maar iets mis gaat met de waypoints, dat je dan niks anders kunt doen dan stoppen en opnieuw beginnen. Dat is gewoon niet te doen op een motorfiets.

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                              @Ton-Machielsen ik gebruik soms een met kurviger web gemaakte track soms in kurviger v1 app. dan heb ik inderdaad altijd 1 op 1 route/track. hier wel herberekenen uit.

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