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    David Martin Sandilands
    wrote on 25 Dec 2024, 11:35 last edited by
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    Im considering the Nav app addon to use for on and off road use, and have a few questions:

    1 Can you load and follow GPX files of an off route (Like TET) and follow the route off road?

    1. Can you log/record a route save as GPX route then follow it at a later date?

    2. An MRA planning advice, can I plan an off route on the MRA planner?

    Any advice is welcome.

    Thx

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      richard 3v
      wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 11:15 last edited by
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      I may be wrong but I would say "NO".

      I trail ride, as well as road riding, and I have tried to load trails onto MRA without success.
      For me Basecamp is far superior for trails/off road, but MRA is now my default for road riding.

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        25 Dec 2024, 11:35

        Im considering the Nav app addon to use for on and off road use, and have a few questions:

        1 Can you load and follow GPX files of an off route (Like TET) and follow the route off road?

        1. Can you log/record a route save as GPX route then follow it at a later date?

        2. An MRA planning advice, can I plan an off route on the MRA planner?

        Any advice is welcome.

        Thx

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        Martin Wilcke
        wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 12:04 last edited by Martin Wilcke
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        @richard-3v @David-Martin-Sandilands

        I would say the same.

        MRA is excellent for on-road, but there are better alternatives for off-road. I recommend ADVHub; it is primarily intended to work with DMD2 (navigation app) and is currently in beta.

        You can request access via the DMD2 discord server: https://www.drivemodedashboard.com/forums/topic/dmd2-discord-server/

        Let me know if you need assistance to get this set up.

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          26 Dec 2024, 11:15

          I may be wrong but I would say "NO".

          I trail ride, as well as road riding, and I have tried to load trails onto MRA without success.
          For me Basecamp is far superior for trails/off road, but MRA is now my default for road riding.

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          David Martin Sandilands
          wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 12:41 last edited by
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          @richard-3v Thank you, it’s as I thought, MRA need to up their game, as I use a tomtom the MRA nav os pointless for me

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            Jörgen
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            wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 16:36 last edited by
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            A TomTom Rider is also Not suitability for off road use.

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              26 Dec 2024, 12:41

              @richard-3v Thank you, it’s as I thought, MRA need to up their game, as I use a tomtom the MRA nav os pointless for me

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              Ton Machielsen
              wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 18:03 last edited by
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              @David-Martin-Sandilands Use Kurviger.de for creating the GPX and load the <gpx in My-Route.

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                26 Dec 2024, 16:36

                A TomTom Rider is also Not suitability for off road use.

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                David Martin Sandilands
                wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 18:06 last edited by
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                @Jörgen Exactly as I have a Tomtom rider and why I’m looking at alternatives.

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                  26 Dec 2024, 18:03

                  @David-Martin-Sandilands Use Kurviger.de for creating the GPX and load the <gpx in My-Route.

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                  Martin Wilcke
                  wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 18:13 last edited by
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                  @Ton-Machielsen
                  Kurviger for off-road? Are you sure?

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                    26 Dec 2024, 18:13

                    @Ton-Machielsen
                    Kurviger for off-road? Are you sure?

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                    Ton Machielsen
                    wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 19:29 last edited by
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                    @Martin-Wilcke That’s what I do…

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                      26 Dec 2024, 19:29

                      @Martin-Wilcke That’s what I do…

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                      Martin Wilcke
                      wrote on 26 Dec 2024, 20:07 last edited by
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                      @Ton-Machielsen
                      To recap: Your workflow is to create off-road routes/tracks with Kurviger and navigate them with MRA NN? That sounds super interesting!
                      Can you please share one of these as an example? I'm on MRA and Kurviger, both platforms will do.

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                        LE DIZES Freddy
                        wrote on 27 Dec 2024, 08:39 last edited by
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                        Bonjour à tous
                        la solution pour faire des itinéraires Route et Off road serait que lorsqu'on utilise la navigation avec MRA la trace apparaisse tout le temps quelque soit le routage fait par l'application . libre a chacun de suivre le routage ou la trace

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                          CD130
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                          wrote on 28 Dec 2024, 06:37 last edited by
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                          Corjan is currently working on it. Hopefully he can share an update on this topic soon.

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                            Corjan Meijerink
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                            wrote on 28 Dec 2024, 10:16 last edited by
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                            Full offroad support will be quite unlikely for our navigation app.
                            We are however investigating the support of short offroad sections / "offroad" marked waypoints as shown in the MRA Routeplanner.

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                              28 Dec 2024, 10:16

                              Full offroad support will be quite unlikely for our navigation app.
                              We are however investigating the support of short offroad sections / "offroad" marked waypoints as shown in the MRA Routeplanner.

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                              CD130
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                              wrote on 28 Dec 2024, 10:24 last edited by
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                              @Corjan-Meijerink That would be a really great improvement and for most users more than enough. Glad you're working on this 👍

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                                26 Dec 2024, 20:07

                                @Ton-Machielsen
                                To recap: Your workflow is to create off-road routes/tracks with Kurviger and navigate them with MRA NN? That sounds super interesting!
                                Can you please share one of these as an example? I'm on MRA and Kurviger, both platforms will do.

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                                Ton Machielsen
                                wrote on 28 Dec 2024, 17:56 last edited by
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                                @Martin-Wilcke What do you want me to share? A GPX? I just create my track on Kurviger and export it as GPX into MRA. That’s all.

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                                  28 Dec 2024, 17:56

                                  @Martin-Wilcke What do you want me to share? A GPX? I just create my track on Kurviger and export it as GPX into MRA. That’s all.

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                                  Martin Wilcke
                                  wrote on 29 Dec 2024, 15:07 last edited by
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                                  @Ton-Machielsen

                                  I'm curious about the "offroad capabilities" of your workflow as I've not managed to get proper results with a similar approach - neither creating a route (without using "beeline") nor navigating a track (except "follow the line visually"). That's why I'm asking.

                                  Can you share one of your offroad routes (route-track?) here by providing a link?

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                                    28 Dec 2024, 10:16

                                    Full offroad support will be quite unlikely for our navigation app.
                                    We are however investigating the support of short offroad sections / "offroad" marked waypoints as shown in the MRA Routeplanner.

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                                    Martin Wilcke
                                    wrote on 29 Dec 2024, 15:10 last edited by
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                                    @Corjan-Meijerink
                                    That would help a lot! Not only for offroad purposes but also to deal with map data errors (like unknown ferries).

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                                      29 Dec 2024, 15:07

                                      @Ton-Machielsen

                                      I'm curious about the "offroad capabilities" of your workflow as I've not managed to get proper results with a similar approach - neither creating a route (without using "beeline") nor navigating a track (except "follow the line visually"). That's why I'm asking.

                                      Can you share one of your offroad routes (route-track?) here by providing a link?

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                                      David Martin Sandilands
                                      wrote on 29 Dec 2024, 15:13 last edited by
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                                      @Martin-Wilcke I don’t have an off road route yet, I hope to be about create on in MRA. Or extract one off the TET website

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                                        Ton Machielsen
                                        wrote on 29 Dec 2024, 15:34 last edited by
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                                        This is just an example. https://kurv.gr/dHAVv

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                                          29 Dec 2024, 15:34

                                          This is just an example. https://kurv.gr/dHAVv

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                                          Martin Wilcke
                                          wrote on 29 Dec 2024, 16:40 last edited by
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                                          @Ton-Machielsen
                                          Thanks for sharing - I'll have a look!

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