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  • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

    Hi @Tim-Verhaaf can you please expand/explain in more detail how you get the main route to appear on top of the added routes?

    I cannot get this to happen, for me the main route is always hidden below the added routes 0e299ed8-b201-4ea3-bf77-9355621747f0-image.png

    For me this displaying the main route on top would be more helpful than having the added routes on top. A couple of posts above I have requested the additon of a visibility checkbox for the added routes, similar to that in the POI library section, as this would a lot more flexability & avoid having to delete/re-add routes

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    Tim Verhaaf
    wrote on last edited by Tim Verhaaf
    #32

    @Brian-McG

    In my example my 2 additional routes are parts of the same main route, but I divided this main route in 3 parts (from start to coffee, from coffee to lunch, from lunch to end point)

    1. Open a main route
    2. Add a additional route (so 1 out of 3 from the main route)
    3. Add another additional route (so 2 out of 3 from the main route)
      Now you see the main route (in black) and 2 additional routes (in colour) overlaid on the black main route.
      So the only black part you see is the final third of the route (from lunch to end point)
    4. Close the main route (so exit the route planner), by going back to route-lab.
    5. re-open the same main route that you just closed
      There is a short "blip" of the 2 colour additional routes (1 of 3 and 2 of 3) but within a second they disappear under the main route, so the entire route is now black)

    As you can see on the top picture, the additional routes are still "active" but don't show op, they are "under" the main black route.

    The bottom picture is when I just added the additional routes before closing out of the route planner.

    For your wish to display the main route on top: you can perhaps play with the opacity of the colors, so the black main route is better visible....???

    [link text]([link url](2.jpg 1.jpg link url))

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    • Tim Verhaafundefined Tim Verhaaf

      @Brian-McG

      In my example my 2 additional routes are parts of the same main route, but I divided this main route in 3 parts (from start to coffee, from coffee to lunch, from lunch to end point)

      1. Open a main route
      2. Add a additional route (so 1 out of 3 from the main route)
      3. Add another additional route (so 2 out of 3 from the main route)
        Now you see the main route (in black) and 2 additional routes (in colour) overlaid on the black main route.
        So the only black part you see is the final third of the route (from lunch to end point)
      4. Close the main route (so exit the route planner), by going back to route-lab.
      5. re-open the same main route that you just closed
        There is a short "blip" of the 2 colour additional routes (1 of 3 and 2 of 3) but within a second they disappear under the main route, so the entire route is now black)

      As you can see on the top picture, the additional routes are still "active" but don't show op, they are "under" the main black route.

      The bottom picture is when I just added the additional routes before closing out of the route planner.

      For your wish to display the main route on top: you can perhaps play with the opacity of the colors, so the black main route is better visible....???

      [link text]([link url](2.jpg 1.jpg link url))

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      #33

      @Tim-Verhaaf many thanks for the detailed explanation it has helped me enormously 👍
      I think my issue (& possibly yours) can be resolved by using the "Route line transparency" tool
      cbc24a6a-a177-4c34-93cf-9f8ccfa3daaa-image.png
      This enables me to "choose" which line comes to the top

      BlackView BV7100, Android 12, Offline mode with Offline Maps

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      • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

        @Tim-Verhaaf many thanks for the detailed explanation it has helped me enormously 👍
        I think my issue (& possibly yours) can be resolved by using the "Route line transparency" tool
        cbc24a6a-a177-4c34-93cf-9f8ccfa3daaa-image.png
        This enables me to "choose" which line comes to the top

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        Tim Verhaaf
        wrote on last edited by Tim Verhaaf
        #34

        @Brian-McG

        Haha I just edited my previous message to you with the same idea 🙂

        But however, the colors should not "hide" under the main route when re-opening the route.
        You should not "have to" play with the transparency of colors.

        The transparency you suggest in your last message is applied to the black main route.
        You an also play with transparancy of the additional routes. (right next to the place where you choose to colour)
        By clicking on the small colored square and then adjust the transparency slider.

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        • Tim Verhaafundefined Tim Verhaaf

          @Brian-McG

          Haha I just edited my previous message to you with the same idea 🙂

          But however, the colors should not "hide" under the main route when re-opening the route.
          You should not "have to" play with the transparency of colors.

          The transparency you suggest in your last message is applied to the black main route.
          You an also play with transparancy of the additional routes. (right next to the place where you choose to colour)
          By clicking on the small colored square and then adjust the transparency slider.

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          Brian McG
          wrote on last edited by Brian McG
          #35

          @Tim-Verhaaf I think your solution of adjusting the transparency of the added routes is better
          The Toolkit > Route Line Transparency option affects the main route for all routes in your library, so maybe not the best to change
          Changing the transparency of the added routes means it only effects the added route in that particualr route file
          Thanks

          BlackView BV7100, Android 12, Offline mode with Offline Maps

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          • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

            @Tim-Verhaaf I think your solution of adjusting the transparency of the added routes is better
            The Toolkit > Route Line Transparency option affects the main route for all routes in your library, so maybe not the best to change
            Changing the transparency of the added routes means it only effects the added route in that particualr route file
            Thanks

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            Tim Verhaaf
            wrote on last edited by
            #36

            @Brian-McG

            Sounds good.
            I am still curious to see / await response from MRA to see if my initial comment / question is a glitch of some sort.

            I'll wait and see 🙂

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              #37

              I cheated with mine and made a short route just down one road , I use this as the base route then add all the others.

              I'm only using this to select a route to ride or identify roads I've not ridden in my area.

              Screenshot 2024-08-03 at 15.38.52.png

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              • Tim Verhaafundefined Tim Verhaaf

                Awesome improvements !

                However, I did notice when I for example add 2 additional routes to a route (and the have their own colors), and then exit this route and return again, it really shortly (short "blip") shows the 2 extra routes with their own colour, but then "dissapear" behind the main route.
                So the 2 added routes with colour "hide" behind the black main route.

                Only way to get them back is to delete the 2 added routes and select them again.

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                #38

                @Tim-Verhaaf not sure really 🙂

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                • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                  @Tim-Verhaaf not sure really 🙂

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                  #39

                  @Corjan-Meijerink

                  Dank je wel / Thanks Corjan.
                  Wie weet wordt het nog verholpen in een update 🙂 / Hopefully it can be resolved in a update.

                  Maar sowieso is jullie software fantastisch om mee te werken, geniet er elke keer weer van ! / But the software you guys have created is really wonderful, I enjoy it every time I use it !

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                  • HighPeakRiderundefined HighPeakRider

                    I cheated with mine and made a short route just down one road , I use this as the base route then add all the others.

                    I'm only using this to select a route to ride or identify roads I've not ridden in my area.

                    Screenshot 2024-08-03 at 15.38.52.png

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                    @HighPeakRider said in Route overview improvements!:

                    I cheated with mine and made a short route just down one road ,

                    hi @HighPeakRider that's a great shout, i have just done the same in my folders, small route of 100m and called AAA so its at the top of my folder list.
                    cheers for the idea.

                    to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️

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                      #41

                      I called it just overview. 😂

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                      • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst

                        @Corjan-Meijerink this is awesome, great update!

                        One of my primary uses of this feature will be to communicate about multi-day trips with other participants. In that light, it would be great if the added routes would also persist when adding the route to a group or event. Or even better (as others have mentioned), if that could be automated so there's an automatic overview of the routes in the group or event.

                        But it's already great to be able to do it once for my own routes and then have it persist.

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                        @Herko-ter-Horst said in Route overview improvements!:

                        One of my primary uses of this feature will be to communicate about multi-day trips with other participants. In that light, it would be great if the added routes would also persist when adding the route to a group or event.

                        @Herko-ter-Horst this is definitely something that I think would be really useful

                        The new route overview improvements are really great as can be seen from all the colourful screenshots of multiple routes but unfortunately the only way to share this wonder is via a screenshot.
                        If I have a route with multiple other routes displayed only I can see this,
                        as @Herko-ter-Horst say it would be great if the added route overviews were visible to friends/public & in Events & Groups

                        BlackView BV7100, Android 12, Offline mode with Offline Maps

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