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  • Nick Carthew Nick Carthew

    @Con-Hennekens said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

    @Andrew,

    I would avoid using wireless charging anyway. Wireless charging dissipates a lot of extra energy in the form of heat, and has way less capacity than charging by wire.

    Just for balance. My iPhone 11 charges to +100% on a Quadlock wireless charger without problems.

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    @Nick-Carthew @Andrew - ambient temps play a part in it as well. I live in Texas, and in my case, as long as the ambient temp is below ~80degF, not much of an issue. Now, the phone DOES get warmer than 'normal' operating conditons, so there is still an issue with the battery draw the app has. If the temp goes above 80degF, then it is a matter of shutting the app down and switching to Google Maps/Apple Maps or even Scenic...the app is 100% not useable at this point.

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      @Andrew said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

      @M-Schrijver Tell me something I dont know.

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      Courtesy of BBC Bitesize.

      You're welcome.🤡

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      • richtea999 richtea999

        @Andrew said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

        @M-Schrijver Tell me something I dont know.

        Hippos can sleep underwater, thanks to a built-in reflex that allows them to bob up, take a breath, and sink back down without waking.

        Courtesy of BBC Bitesize.

        You're welcome.🤡

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        @richtea999 Thanks that something I didnt know 👍

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        • Andrew Offline
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          Out again yesterday On Motorbike with Android auto and while app is connected to bike with phone screen of Battery lasted OK

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          • Erik 35 Offline
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            Yesterday I used MRA on the motorcycle all day and the battery in the wireless Quad-lock charger was not below 80%.
            How What or Why I have no idea.
            But this does bring back the confidence that things will turn out okay

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            • Erik 35 Erik 35

              Yesterday I used MRA on the motorcycle all day and the battery in the wireless Quad-lock charger was not below 80%.
              How What or Why I have no idea.
              But this does bring back the confidence that things will turn out okay

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              #63

              @Erik-35 @Andrew what was ambient temp?

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              • GT JWR GT JWR

                @Erik-35 @Andrew what was ambient temp?

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                @GT-JWR the temperature was between 17 and 23 degrees, perfect for driving, except for the rain shower 🌦

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                • Erik 35 Erik 35

                  @GT-JWR the temperature was between 17 and 23 degrees, perfect for driving, except for the rain shower 🌦

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                  @Erik-35 haha...yea rain can mess it up! For me, the battery issue, while still present, does not have any issues at that ambient temp - 25degC and is very much complicated/comprimised by the heat generated while having to constantly charge the phone (wired charge), causiing excessive heat issues to the point where the phone goes into protect mode, and the screen dims to an undistinguishable level and the only option then, is to shut the app down, and go back to Google, Apple or Scenic - not ideal, but currently, the only workaround.

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                  • Simon Ferrari Offline
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                    #66

                    I also continue to have problems with phone temperature which I suspect is related to battery consumption. I use CarPlay via a usb wired connection and keep the phone in the armrest. I probably get about 2 hours of usage after which time the phone shuts down due to the temperature. So the app remains unusable for me for most trips.

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                    • Simon Ferrari Simon Ferrari

                      I also continue to have problems with phone temperature which I suspect is related to battery consumption. I use CarPlay via a usb wired connection and keep the phone in the armrest. I probably get about 2 hours of usage after which time the phone shuts down due to the temperature. So the app remains unusable for me for most trips.

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                      #67

                      @Simon-Ferrari do you keep the phone in a closed armrest. Do you continue running MRA while using CarPlay.
                      What I do
                      Let Android Auto connect to my phone.
                      Use the car screen to choose a route and navigate.
                      The phone's screen is off. I charge the phone wired but not in the armrest so it can get fresh air. The phone will get charged and doesn't het overheated.
                      Try this and see the results

                      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                      Honda Silverwing GL 650
                      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                      Garmin XT sold
                      Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                      • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

                        @Simon-Ferrari do you keep the phone in a closed armrest. Do you continue running MRA while using CarPlay.
                        What I do
                        Let Android Auto connect to my phone.
                        Use the car screen to choose a route and navigate.
                        The phone's screen is off. I charge the phone wired but not in the armrest so it can get fresh air. The phone will get charged and doesn't het overheated.
                        Try this and see the results

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                        #68

                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom The phone's screen is off and it is in a closed armrest but I don't want to, or feel I should need to, give up the convenience of having the phone out of the way and easily connected to a charging point. The other navigation apps don't require this and MRA is not good enough to cause me to want to investigate other option.

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                        • Simon Ferrari Simon Ferrari

                          @Marinus-van-Deudekom The phone's screen is off and it is in a closed armrest but I don't want to, or feel I should need to, give up the convenience of having the phone out of the way and easily connected to a charging point. The other navigation apps don't require this and MRA is not good enough to cause me to want to investigate other option.

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #69

                          @Simon-Ferrari Maybe you can try it out of the arm rest to see if thats the problem

                          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                          Honda Silverwing GL 650
                          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                          Garmin XT sold
                          Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                          • Marinus van Deudekom Marinus van Deudekom

                            @Simon-Ferrari Maybe you can try it out of the arm rest to see if thats the problem

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                            GT JWR
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                            @Marinus-van-Deudekom not sure why people continue to try to say it is not an issue - it obviously is, has been acknowledged by the MRA Team, to which is always pointed to a HERE issue. If your fortunate to live in a cooler climate, great - no issues! If not, it is a continual issue/problem and makes using the app impossible. As @Simon-Ferrari says, other navigation apps do not have that issue (specifcally, Google Maps and Apple Maps)

                            And just because the issue belongs to HERE, it does not give MRA a free pass - the issue occurs with the MRA app. You don't take your vehicle to the manufacturer when it has an issue, you take it to the dealer - and in this instance, MRA is the dealer. I know they are working on it, just wish they were having more success.

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                            • GT JWR GT JWR

                              @Marinus-van-Deudekom not sure why people continue to try to say it is not an issue - it obviously is, has been acknowledged by the MRA Team, to which is always pointed to a HERE issue. If your fortunate to live in a cooler climate, great - no issues! If not, it is a continual issue/problem and makes using the app impossible. As @Simon-Ferrari says, other navigation apps do not have that issue (specifcally, Google Maps and Apple Maps)

                              And just because the issue belongs to HERE, it does not give MRA a free pass - the issue occurs with the MRA app. You don't take your vehicle to the manufacturer when it has an issue, you take it to the dealer - and in this instance, MRA is the dealer. I know they are working on it, just wish they were having more success.

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                              @GT-JWR I wish the same every night 🙂

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                              • GT JWR GT JWR

                                @Marinus-van-Deudekom not sure why people continue to try to say it is not an issue - it obviously is, has been acknowledged by the MRA Team, to which is always pointed to a HERE issue. If your fortunate to live in a cooler climate, great - no issues! If not, it is a continual issue/problem and makes using the app impossible. As @Simon-Ferrari says, other navigation apps do not have that issue (specifcally, Google Maps and Apple Maps)

                                And just because the issue belongs to HERE, it does not give MRA a free pass - the issue occurs with the MRA app. You don't take your vehicle to the manufacturer when it has an issue, you take it to the dealer - and in this instance, MRA is the dealer. I know they are working on it, just wish they were having more success.

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                                Marinus van Deudekom
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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #72

                                @GT-JWR I do know the cause of problem just saying a work around while waiting for the final solution.

                                Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                                Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                Garmin XT sold
                                Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                                • M. Schrijver Offline
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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #73

                                  No matter which navigation app you use. All navigation apps will generate much heat. So putting your phone away in a closed cabin is never the best option. Air circulation for cooling is always a good idea

                                  That said. There is indeed a lot of difference how many heat is generated by the difference apps. Sadly MRA is at the top of the list.
                                  Keeping the screen off will help to keep the temperature down a few degrees. But the app must have procedures programmed to keep the screen off. MRA misses good procedures to keep the screen off.

                                  (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                  • Leen Hoek Leen Hoek

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink
                                    Hi Corjan,
                                    My phone: Samsung S22 Ultra
                                    My settings in MRA Next: Driving modus: Motocycle
                                    I have downloaded the Dutch maps in case I need to switch to offline mode.
                                    The phone is connected via USB-C and when I drive routes with MRA Next the battery still drains and the percentage of power drops gradualy . When I stop using MRA Next and I switch over to Google Maps the battery percentage starts to increase again.
                                    What is your advice ?

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                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    @Leen-Hoek said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink
                                    Hi Corjan,
                                    My phone: Samsung S22 Ultra
                                    My settings in MRA Next: Driving modus: Motocycle
                                    I have downloaded the Dutch maps in case I need to switch to offline mode.
                                    The phone is connected via USB-C and when I drive routes with MRA Next the battery still drains and the percentage of power drops gradualy . When I stop using MRA Next and I switch over to Google Maps the battery percentage starts to increase again.
                                    What is your advice ?

                                    Same problem with my android pixel 8, and this really annoying...

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                                    • Franck 33 Franck 33

                                      @Leen-Hoek said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink
                                      Hi Corjan,
                                      My phone: Samsung S22 Ultra
                                      My settings in MRA Next: Driving modus: Motocycle
                                      I have downloaded the Dutch maps in case I need to switch to offline mode.
                                      The phone is connected via USB-C and when I drive routes with MRA Next the battery still drains and the percentage of power drops gradualy . When I stop using MRA Next and I switch over to Google Maps the battery percentage starts to increase again.
                                      What is your advice ?

                                      Same problem with my android pixel 8, and this really annoying...

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                                      @Franck-9 said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                      Same problem with my android pixel 8, and this really annoying...

                                      My Pixel 8 (pro) does keep up with charging while using the MRA app. Drain is high, but on cheap cable and cheap USB charger it is still gaining charge (slowly).

                                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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                                      • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                                        @Franck-9 said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                        Same problem with my android pixel 8, and this really annoying...

                                        My Pixel 8 (pro) does keep up with charging while using the MRA app. Drain is high, but on cheap cable and cheap USB charger it is still gaining charge (slowly).

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                                        @Con-Hennekens said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                        My Pixel 8 (pro) does keep up with charging

                                        My Pixel 6 (pro) keeps up with charging too -- until it gets so hot that it shuts down. I can run without a charger until I run out of battery or I can run with it on the charger until the phone shuts itself down. And this is with Android Autio so I have the phone screen shut off. In another thread, @Corjan-Meijerink commented that HERE is actively working on the issue, which is great news.

                                        Vinnie

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                                        • Vincent Curren Vincent Curren

                                          @Con-Hennekens said in Mobile Phone Battery usage - Any News??:

                                          My Pixel 8 (pro) does keep up with charging

                                          My Pixel 6 (pro) keeps up with charging too -- until it gets so hot that it shuts down. I can run without a charger until I run out of battery or I can run with it on the charger until the phone shuts itself down. And this is with Android Autio so I have the phone screen shut off. In another thread, @Corjan-Meijerink commented that HERE is actively working on the issue, which is great news.

                                          Vinnie

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                                          @Vincent-Curren temperature is dropping in my tests! 🙂
                                          Hope to get this out to release in the next month.

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                                          Working very intensively with HERE as we speak! 😉

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