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    Eugene7
    wrote on 5 May 2024, 08:12 last edited by
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    I do find it surprising that there is no route preview capability. Ideally one with the ability to run a route at increased speeds.

    When planing complex routes it is something we use a lot - we are trying (presently failing) to migrate from Sygic.

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      richtea999
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      wrote on 5 May 2024, 09:37 last edited by richtea999 5 May 2024, 09:39
      #2

      You can. Select a route and instead of navigating press here:

      Screenshot_20240505_103353.jpg

      It's not an obvious icon, but I think space is at a premium - hence no text saying 'Preview'.

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        5 May 2024, 09:37

        You can. Select a route and instead of navigating press here:

        Screenshot_20240505_103353.jpg

        It's not an obvious icon, but I think space is at a premium - hence no text saying 'Preview'.

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        Eugene7
        wrote on 5 May 2024, 09:51 last edited by
        #3

        Unfortunately, that is not a route preview in the real sense of the word.
        It doesn't run the actual 'navigation'.
        It just shows the map overview.

        www.7-dna.com
        www.youtube.com/user/bogclub7

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          richtea999
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          wrote on 5 May 2024, 09:58 last edited by
          #4

          @Eugene7 Tap anywhere on the screen and the animation runs (takes about 3 seconds to start, as it also shows a quick overview before animating).

          Tap again to stop.

          The one bit I couldn't find was if you could fast forward to a later part of the route. I was hoping the progess indicator might slide, but it doesn't.

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            5 May 2024, 09:58

            @Eugene7 Tap anywhere on the screen and the animation runs (takes about 3 seconds to start, as it also shows a quick overview before animating).

            Tap again to stop.

            The one bit I couldn't find was if you could fast forward to a later part of the route. I was hoping the progess indicator might slide, but it doesn't.

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            Eugene7
            wrote on 5 May 2024, 10:07 last edited by
            #5

            @richtea999 - Doesn't work for me at all...
            All tapping on the screen does is remove the circular buttons.

            www.7-dna.com
            www.youtube.com/user/bogclub7

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              5 May 2024, 10:07

              @richtea999 - Doesn't work for me at all...
              All tapping on the screen does is remove the circular buttons.

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              RetiredWingMan
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              wrote on 5 May 2024, 15:29 last edited by
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              @Eugene7 sounds like you didn't hit the icon properly. It should transfer you to the web page and display a screen as the one below.
              Screenshot_20240505-112729.jpg

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                5 May 2024, 10:07

                @richtea999 - Doesn't work for me at all...
                All tapping on the screen does is remove the circular buttons.

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                richtea999
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                wrote on 5 May 2024, 17:40 last edited by richtea999 5 May 2024, 17:41
                #7

                @Eugene7 said in Route Preview:

                @richtea999 - Doesn't work for me at all...
                All tapping on the screen does is remove the circular buttons.

                Having tapped the 'Animate'/'Preview' icon this is the next screen that i see:
                Screenshot_20240505_182138.jpg

                As the screen says:

                • either tap the map, or
                • drag the progress bar

                Note that this is all from within the app, but you can do the same on the web, i.e. use the MRA RoutePlanner website.
                Once you've opened the route, either:

                • drag the progress bar at the bottom, or
                • tap the 'hamburger'-shaped menu (at the top of the Waypoints list) -> Animate -> start preview

                Website view:

                Screenshot 2024-05-05 at 18.36.06.png

                Animation settings:

                Screenshot 2024-05-05 at 18.35.16.png

                You can even record it and share that with the rest of the group.

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                  Corjan Meijerink
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                  wrote on 5 May 2024, 19:03 last edited by
                  #8

                  Yes, animate somewhat does what @Eugene7 wants.
                  However, you don’t see a true route preview where the route is simulated as if you drive it 😉 (including all instructions etc).

                  We as developers have a tool to simulate the route but I don’t really see a reason to expose it to users 🙂

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                    Lynchy67
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                    wrote on 6 May 2024, 06:20 last edited by Lynchy67 5 Jun 2024, 11:16
                    #9

                    @PETER SLATE

                    The Garmin Route Simulator will simulate all road speeds.
                    So if a road is a 60 MPH road it will increase to 60 MPH.

                    Sadly in the UK, many roads have had the speed reduced.

                    You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                      6 May 2024, 06:20

                      @PETER SLATE

                      The Garmin Route Simulator will simulate all road speeds.
                      So if a road is a 60 MPH road it will increase to 60 MPH.

                      Sadly in the UK, many roads have had the speed reduced.

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                      Eugene7
                      wrote on 6 May 2024, 10:43 last edited by Eugene7 5 Jun 2024, 10:44
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                      Again, coming from Sygic (at least we are trying to migrate away from Sygic, but the limitations of MyRoute App are causing issues...), the Route Preview option, with the ability to define the playback speed as a multiplier, is very useful.

                      Unfortunately, the on-line map overview suggested above is not at all the same thing...

                      www.7-dna.com
                      www.youtube.com/user/bogclub7

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                        6 May 2024, 10:43

                        Again, coming from Sygic (at least we are trying to migrate away from Sygic, but the limitations of MyRoute App are causing issues...), the Route Preview option, with the ability to define the playback speed as a multiplier, is very useful.

                        Unfortunately, the on-line map overview suggested above is not at all the same thing...

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                        Lynchy67
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                        wrote on 6 May 2024, 11:19 last edited by
                        #11

                        @Eugene7

                        I'd be interested to see the "On-line Map Overview from Sygic" if you have a screenshot available?

                        You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                          6 May 2024, 10:43

                          Again, coming from Sygic (at least we are trying to migrate away from Sygic, but the limitations of MyRoute App are causing issues...), the Route Preview option, with the ability to define the playback speed as a multiplier, is very useful.

                          Unfortunately, the on-line map overview suggested above is not at all the same thing...

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                          Stefan Hummelink
                          Alpha tester
                          wrote on 6 May 2024, 11:27 last edited by
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                          @Eugene7 said in Route Preview:

                          but the limitations of MyRoute App are causing issues...

                          I can't keep myself from asking: "Then why are you migrating away from Sygic?"

                          Manks bu'j te bange.

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                            6 May 2024, 10:43

                            Again, coming from Sygic (at least we are trying to migrate away from Sygic, but the limitations of MyRoute App are causing issues...), the Route Preview option, with the ability to define the playback speed as a multiplier, is very useful.

                            Unfortunately, the on-line map overview suggested above is not at all the same thing...

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                            Con Hennekens
                            Alpha tester
                            wrote on 7 May 2024, 09:50 last edited by
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                            @Eugene7, choices are often a trade-off. Depending in what you think is most important. Personally, I see no reason why I would be watching a simulated demo of a ride I planned. I'd rather go riding 😉 . I think dev time is better spend on other things.

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                              7 May 2024, 09:50

                              @Eugene7, choices are often a trade-off. Depending in what you think is most important. Personally, I see no reason why I would be watching a simulated demo of a ride I planned. I'd rather go riding 😉 . I think dev time is better spend on other things.

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                              Eugene7
                              wrote on 8 May 2024, 19:00 last edited by
                              #14

                              As posted elsewhere, we are just trying to see if MyRouteApp can perform as we need for our tours, and post requests for new features, as well as report what we see as bugs.

                              As for Sygic, it presently has a major issues with generating inaccurate routes when multiple waypoints are in use, with unnecessary detours and loops.

                              As a consequence we have been evaluating MyRouteApp, which most of our group purchased a long time back as a backup. But Sygic do promise a fix...

                              And Sygic provide a real preview within the app, not on-line.
                              It shows you the exactly what you will see, and hear, when driving the route.

                              I'll be honest, the response from users of this forum has really put us off remaining engaged in providing feedback and suggestion features for MyRoute.

                              Being told we are 'getting on peoples tits, and then locking the thread, is frankly appalling.

                              But I doubt we will be missed.

                              www.7-dna.com
                              www.youtube.com/user/bogclub7

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                                8 May 2024, 19:00

                                As posted elsewhere, we are just trying to see if MyRouteApp can perform as we need for our tours, and post requests for new features, as well as report what we see as bugs.

                                As for Sygic, it presently has a major issues with generating inaccurate routes when multiple waypoints are in use, with unnecessary detours and loops.

                                As a consequence we have been evaluating MyRouteApp, which most of our group purchased a long time back as a backup. But Sygic do promise a fix...

                                And Sygic provide a real preview within the app, not on-line.
                                It shows you the exactly what you will see, and hear, when driving the route.

                                I'll be honest, the response from users of this forum has really put us off remaining engaged in providing feedback and suggestion features for MyRoute.

                                Being told we are 'getting on peoples tits, and then locking the thread, is frankly appalling.

                                But I doubt we will be missed.

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                                Corjan Meijerink
                                Developer
                                wrote on 8 May 2024, 19:22 last edited by
                                #15

                                @Eugene7 I did honestly give you a friendly response. Yes, it was an honest response.

                                You could take it as a warning or as a threat. You sadly choose the latter.

                                We will miss all users that leave with a bad feeling but if that’s your choice, no hard feelings.
                                The reason I locked the thread was to prevent others (not you) from responding. Hence the open invitation to send me a message when feeling the need 🙂

                                Feel free to continue contributing! Just understand the point I was trying to make and you will be welcomed with open arms!

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                                  Corjan Meijerink
                                  Developer
                                  wrote on 8 May 2024, 19:26 last edited by Corjan Meijerink 5 Aug 2024, 19:27
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                                  To answer about this feature specifically: we have it as devs but not exposed to users.

                                  It takes quite some time to make it useful! Now it takes forever to simulate a relatively short route. What’s the point in watching a simulation of 20 minutes for a 4 hour drive when you could already be at your coffee stop 😉

                                  We are a small team (2 devs) and need to spend time wisely. Here I am on the forum (while I should be watching Real - Bayern), in my personal time, to make sure our community is and stays happy 😢 After already a quite intense work week (see the results in the 4.1.3 announcement).

                                  Our users don’t see the need for this (yet) and prefer we spend precious time on other features! If this picks up traction, we will definitely consider it 🙂

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