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  • undefined Corjan Meijerink
    19 Sept 2023, 13:33

    @David-Mc no, sorry 😞 There are quite some technical limitations to why this isn't possible just as easy.

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    David Mc
    wrote on 19 Sept 2023, 13:49 last edited by
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    @Corjan-Meijerink Thanks for the feedback. I'll continue to hope it does get added at some point in the future.

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      HighPeakRider
      wrote on 21 Sept 2023, 13:35 last edited by HighPeakRider
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      Screenshot 2023-09-21 at 14.20.13.png

      All these potential routes and groups and no way to view what could be great routes.

      39,291 UK users and only 155 routes.

      Seems like a great opportunity wasted specially after paying for a gold subscription.

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      • undefined HighPeakRider
        21 Sept 2023, 13:35

        Screenshot 2023-09-21 at 14.20.13.png

        All these potential routes and groups and no way to view what could be great routes.

        39,291 UK users and only 155 routes.

        Seems like a great opportunity wasted specially after paying for a gold subscription.

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        Nick Carthew
        RouteXpert
        wrote on 21 Sept 2023, 14:22 last edited by
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        @HighPeakRider

        The RouteXpert library is already the largest verified route library and it is being added to all of the time including more routes in the UK.
        There are only so many great roads to ride and I think that most of these are already covered by the 155 UK RX routes.

        RouteXpert routes are meticulously planned and checked to ensure that they are expertly constructed and will work equally for most navigation devices.
        They all follow a similar formula making them easier for users to become accustomed to.

        We had an open library before we had the RouteXpert library and it contained far too many’Test’ routes where users uploaded any old route. This made it almost impossible to find a good one amongst them.

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        • undefined Nick Carthew
          21 Sept 2023, 14:22

          @HighPeakRider

          The RouteXpert library is already the largest verified route library and it is being added to all of the time including more routes in the UK.
          There are only so many great roads to ride and I think that most of these are already covered by the 155 UK RX routes.

          RouteXpert routes are meticulously planned and checked to ensure that they are expertly constructed and will work equally for most navigation devices.
          They all follow a similar formula making them easier for users to become accustomed to.

          We had an open library before we had the RouteXpert library and it contained far too many’Test’ routes where users uploaded any old route. This made it almost impossible to find a good one amongst them.

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          HighPeakRider
          wrote on 21 Sept 2023, 14:40 last edited by
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          @Nick-Carthew said in Nearby routes option - suggestion:

          There are only so many great roads to ride and I think that most of these are already covered by the 155 UK RX routes.

          Sorry I must be missing them, can you point me to the classic routes in the Peak District where thousands of riders visit every year to ride?

          Would it not be better to be able to view verified recommended routes and pubic shared routes and you can take your pick?

          Outdoor Active and many other apps have this function.

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            21 Sept 2023, 14:40

            @Nick-Carthew said in Nearby routes option - suggestion:

            There are only so many great roads to ride and I think that most of these are already covered by the 155 UK RX routes.

            Sorry I must be missing them, can you point me to the classic routes in the Peak District where thousands of riders visit every year to ride?

            Would it not be better to be able to view verified recommended routes and pubic shared routes and you can take your pick?

            Outdoor Active and many other apps have this function.

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            Nick Carthew
            RouteXpert
            wrote on 21 Sept 2023, 14:48 last edited by
            #16

            @HighPeakRider
            If you use the filters and choose East Midlands you will see that there are several Peak District routes.

            If you have any routes in particular that you would like to see in the library, share them to me and I’ll sprinkle some magic RouteXpert dust on them and add them to the library and accredit your name to them.

            Like I said, the library is growing all the time.

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            • undefined Nick Carthew
              21 Sept 2023, 14:48

              @HighPeakRider
              If you use the filters and choose East Midlands you will see that there are several Peak District routes.

              If you have any routes in particular that you would like to see in the library, share them to me and I’ll sprinkle some magic RouteXpert dust on them and add them to the library and accredit your name to them.

              Like I said, the library is growing all the time.

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              HighPeakRider
              wrote on 21 Sept 2023, 15:05 last edited by
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              @Nick-Carthew Will do, mine all start in Whaley Bridge so I'll look to provide some which are more Peak District centric.

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              • undefined Nick Carthew
                21 Sept 2023, 14:22

                @HighPeakRider

                The RouteXpert library is already the largest verified route library and it is being added to all of the time including more routes in the UK.
                There are only so many great roads to ride and I think that most of these are already covered by the 155 UK RX routes.

                RouteXpert routes are meticulously planned and checked to ensure that they are expertly constructed and will work equally for most navigation devices.
                They all follow a similar formula making them easier for users to become accustomed to.

                We had an open library before we had the RouteXpert library and it contained far too many’Test’ routes where users uploaded any old route. This made it almost impossible to find a good one amongst them.

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                richtea999
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                wrote on 21 Sept 2023, 16:26 last edited by
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                @Nick-Carthew said in Nearby routes option - suggestion:

                We had an open library before we had the RouteXpert library and it contained far too many’Test’ routes where users uploaded any old route. This made it almost impossible to find a good one amongst them.

                A halfway house like this would be nice:

                • allow route submissions from paid users (thus excluding spammers)
                • RouteExperts to review/amend and make a decision to add/request a mod

                It would take a lot of work but the result would be impressive, and a feather in MRA's cap.

                Submissions would have to meet some defined minimum criteria - min no of waypoints, stops, POIs, etc.

                Some maintenance in the form of post-publish reviews would be needed, of the lower scoring routes to keep the quality up.

                I am very happy to submit routes for my area (South MIdlands/Cotswolds) but I suspect my routing skills are not up to scratch. 😞

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                  21 Sept 2023, 16:26

                  @Nick-Carthew said in Nearby routes option - suggestion:

                  We had an open library before we had the RouteXpert library and it contained far too many’Test’ routes where users uploaded any old route. This made it almost impossible to find a good one amongst them.

                  A halfway house like this would be nice:

                  • allow route submissions from paid users (thus excluding spammers)
                  • RouteExperts to review/amend and make a decision to add/request a mod

                  It would take a lot of work but the result would be impressive, and a feather in MRA's cap.

                  Submissions would have to meet some defined minimum criteria - min no of waypoints, stops, POIs, etc.

                  Some maintenance in the form of post-publish reviews would be needed, of the lower scoring routes to keep the quality up.

                  I am very happy to submit routes for my area (South MIdlands/Cotswolds) but I suspect my routing skills are not up to scratch. 😞

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                  Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                  RouteXpert
                  wrote on 21 Sept 2023, 18:08 last edited by Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                  #19

                  @richtea999

                  We have already thought of this and it is on the RouteXpert wish list, the NRXR; None RouteXpert Routes

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                    David Mc
                    wrote on 23 Sept 2023, 13:49 last edited by
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                    One of the reasons I would like to see expansion beyond being able to search just the route expert routes is that I have set up my own libraries of passes in the Alps, Dolomites and Pyrenees. I'd like to choose a point and ask what routes are near by so that I can see what passes are close by and plan a route that includes a number of those passes. Without this option I have to know in advance what passes there are near to a given point then go looking for those passes through a very long list.

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                    • undefined David Mc
                      23 Sept 2023, 13:49

                      One of the reasons I would like to see expansion beyond being able to search just the route expert routes is that I have set up my own libraries of passes in the Alps, Dolomites and Pyrenees. I'd like to choose a point and ask what routes are near by so that I can see what passes are close by and plan a route that includes a number of those passes. Without this option I have to know in advance what passes there are near to a given point then go looking for those passes through a very long list.

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                      Nick Carthew
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                      wrote on 23 Sept 2023, 14:47 last edited by
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                      @David-Mc said in Nearby routes option - suggestion:

                      One of the reasons I would like to see expansion beyond being able to search just the route expert routes is that I have set up my own libraries of passes in the Alps, Dolomites and Pyrenees. I'd like to choose a point and ask what routes are near by so that I can see what passes are close by and plan a route that includes a number of those passes. Without this option I have to know in advance what passes there are near to a given point then go looking for those passes through a very long list.

                      You could switch on the Mountain Saddle POIs to see nearby mountain passes.

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                        David Mc
                        wrote on 23 Sept 2023, 16:28 last edited by
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                        Thanks for the suggstion by it's not really viable on two counts. To demonstrate the issues look at at the "holy trinity" passes of Furka, Grimsell and Susten. You have to be zoomed in so close to see the saddle icon on Furka you can't even see both ends of the pass. If you start to look for Grimsell an Susten there are many other sadle way points you have to "ignore", but only once you've looked at them to see if they are of interest.

                        If I use the routes function when planning and pull each of my library passes in I go from three nice day-glow lines to this: https://www.myrouteapp.com/route/open/4037570

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