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  • undefined Jörgen
    17 Aug 2023, 07:04

    So my understanding was right, a lot of people can then upload a track log.
    Yes, I believe it is a big change in the system, the rights management would be difficult, etc.
    On the other hand, the event will be full of tracks, do I want this?
    For me, it is no benefit, I can see track logs of my friends, this is enough.

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    Tom Johann
    wrote on 17 Aug 2023, 08:51 last edited by
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    @Jörgen said in Tracklogs of Events/Veranstaltungen in App:

    it is a big change in the sy

    I am not talking about uploading tracklogs. I just whant the many people of an event having access to the Event's tracklogs/"Zeitleiste"
    These tracklogs are uploaded by the organizer of an event.
    These tracklogs are shown under "Zeitleiste" in German

    So I am "just" talking about a simple access to these tracklogs (of an event) via the App.

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      17 Aug 2023, 08:51

      @Jörgen said in Tracklogs of Events/Veranstaltungen in App:

      it is a big change in the sy

      I am not talking about uploading tracklogs. I just whant the many people of an event having access to the Event's tracklogs/"Zeitleiste"
      These tracklogs are uploaded by the organizer of an event.
      These tracklogs are shown under "Zeitleiste" in German

      So I am "just" talking about a simple access to these tracklogs (of an event) via the App.

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      Con Hennekens
      wrote on 17 Aug 2023, 09:00 last edited by Con Hennekens
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      @Tom-Johann, tracklogs are not "owned" by an event. What you want still requires at least the organizer of an event to upload or share his own tracklog to the event. I understand your wish, but doubt if there is a lot of interest in it. But hey, all improvements are welcome! 😉

      Since this suggestion is largely dependent on the web-platform, maybe it is better placed in that category.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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        Jörgen
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        wrote on 17 Aug 2023, 10:42 last edited by
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        Ok, then the owner or initiator of the event should provide these tracklogs from his account. Anyway, may be a good idea, but do we need it? I am out now. 😉

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          Tom Johann
          wrote on 17 Aug 2023, 17:53 last edited by
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          I am little bit confused that I am not able to describe what I mean.

          I just initiated my first event. I invited people, and copied some routes to the event.
          All participant can access this event and watch all routes via WebSite AND App.
          This is perfect.

          On the event I recorded tracklogs every day and copied these tracklogs also to the event.
          The participants can view the tracklogs of the event via WebSite but NOT in the App.
          Therefore my suggestion is to also see tracklogs of events under the “Tracklogs” menu in the App to avoid that participants have to use the WebSite.

          I know that there is a possibility through the “Route Lab” menu in the App. But this is quite complicated for the participants and it would be much easier if participants can see the tracklogs of Events in the “Tracklogs” menu.

          So my question is: Why does the mobile App provides a functionality to view routes of an event BUT NOT a functionality to view TRACKLOGS of an event?

          I am also involved into Software Development in my job and I think this is not a big task since the whole functionality should be already there. MyRouteApp just has to use it in the App.

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            Jörgen
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            wrote on 17 Aug 2023, 21:24 last edited by
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            Ok, now it is clear and understandable. You should said this from the beginning. 😉

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            • undefined Tom Johann
              17 Aug 2023, 17:53

              I am little bit confused that I am not able to describe what I mean.

              I just initiated my first event. I invited people, and copied some routes to the event.
              All participant can access this event and watch all routes via WebSite AND App.
              This is perfect.

              On the event I recorded tracklogs every day and copied these tracklogs also to the event.
              The participants can view the tracklogs of the event via WebSite but NOT in the App.
              Therefore my suggestion is to also see tracklogs of events under the “Tracklogs” menu in the App to avoid that participants have to use the WebSite.

              I know that there is a possibility through the “Route Lab” menu in the App. But this is quite complicated for the participants and it would be much easier if participants can see the tracklogs of Events in the “Tracklogs” menu.

              So my question is: Why does the mobile App provides a functionality to view routes of an event BUT NOT a functionality to view TRACKLOGS of an event?

              I am also involved into Software Development in my job and I think this is not a big task since the whole functionality should be already there. MyRouteApp just has to use it in the App.

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              Con Hennekens
              wrote on 18 Aug 2023, 09:36 last edited by
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              @Tom-Johann said in Tracklogs of Events/Veranstaltungen in App:

              On the event I recorded tracklogs every day and copied these tracklogs also to the event.

              Okay, so now I understand that associating your tracklog to an event is already possible? Hmm, didn't know that, sorry for the confusion about that. In that case coding an extra tab in the tracklog menu should not be very difficult indeed.

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                Tom Johann
                wrote on 22 Aug 2023, 07:18 last edited by
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                @Corjan Meijerink / MyRoute-app Developer Team:
                Did my proposal make it into the developers' backlog?


                I just initiated my first event. I invited people, and copied some routes to the event.
                All participant can access this event and watch all routes via WebSite AND App.
                This is perfect.

                SUGGESTION:
                On the event I recorded tracklogs every day and copied these tracklogs also to the event.
                The participants can view the tracklogs of the event via WebSite but NOT in the App.
                Therefore my SUGGESTION is to also see tracklogs of events under the “Tracklogs” menu in the App to avoid that participants have to use the WebSite.

                I know that there is a possibility through the “Route Lab” menu in the App. But this is quite complicated for the participants and the rendering is quite bad on an iPhone.
                It would be much easier if participants can see the tracklogs of Events in the “Tracklogs” menu.

                So my question is: Why does the mobile App provides a functionality to view routes of an event BUT NOT a functionality to view TRACKLOGS of an event?

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                • undefined Tom Johann
                  22 Aug 2023, 07:18

                  @Corjan Meijerink / MyRoute-app Developer Team:
                  Did my proposal make it into the developers' backlog?


                  I just initiated my first event. I invited people, and copied some routes to the event.
                  All participant can access this event and watch all routes via WebSite AND App.
                  This is perfect.

                  SUGGESTION:
                  On the event I recorded tracklogs every day and copied these tracklogs also to the event.
                  The participants can view the tracklogs of the event via WebSite but NOT in the App.
                  Therefore my SUGGESTION is to also see tracklogs of events under the “Tracklogs” menu in the App to avoid that participants have to use the WebSite.

                  I know that there is a possibility through the “Route Lab” menu in the App. But this is quite complicated for the participants and the rendering is quite bad on an iPhone.
                  It would be much easier if participants can see the tracklogs of Events in the “Tracklogs” menu.

                  So my question is: Why does the mobile App provides a functionality to view routes of an event BUT NOT a functionality to view TRACKLOGS of an event?

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                  Corjan Meijerink
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                  wrote on 22 Aug 2023, 13:05 last edited by
                  #17

                  @Tom-Johann Okey, now I actually understand it.

                  Groups never have tracklogs.

                  Within events, the organiser(s) can manually add tracklogs to them. The old "MyRoute-app Navigation" app used to add tracklogs automatically to events if you drove a route from that event 😉

                  So long story short, this is quite an unused feature and therefore not properly migrated to the new app in all honesty.
                  I therefore also not know in what timespan this feature will be added, if at all again.

                  I do however understand the wish to have it!
                  I'll make sure we'll discuss it internally.

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                  • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                    22 Aug 2023, 13:05

                    @Tom-Johann Okey, now I actually understand it.

                    Groups never have tracklogs.

                    Within events, the organiser(s) can manually add tracklogs to them. The old "MyRoute-app Navigation" app used to add tracklogs automatically to events if you drove a route from that event 😉

                    So long story short, this is quite an unused feature and therefore not properly migrated to the new app in all honesty.
                    I therefore also not know in what timespan this feature will be added, if at all again.

                    I do however understand the wish to have it!
                    I'll make sure we'll discuss it internally.

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                    Tom Johann
                    wrote on 22 Aug 2023, 22:17 last edited by
                    #18

                    @Corjan-Meijerink, I don't know why, but I have the impression that I am not really able to tell what I mean!

                    I am NOT talking about Groups.
                    I am NOT talking about automatic adding tracklogs to events.

                    I know that organisers can add tracklogs manually to events. This is absolutely fine.
                    When I do this, all participants can watch these tracklogs including photos.

                    BUT: They have to use the WebSite or Route Lab which is quite complicated for the participants of envent.
                    The organiser can see his tracklogs also in the App under "Tracklogs" under his "own" Tab.

                    So my SUGGESTION is that participants of events can see the Tracklogs of events also in the App under "Tracklogs" under a NEW Tab "Events"
                    Same feature already exists in the App for Routes!
                    The possibility of showing Tracklog in the App (only own Tracklogs) is also alrady existing in the App.

                    The only missing part is to include the "Events" Tab under Tracklogs!
                    I think Tracklogs with pictures especially make sense for participants of events. Therefore I think this feature wourld be really usefull.

                    Hope I could explain what I mean 😉

                    Many thanks.
                    Tom

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                    • undefined Tom Johann
                      22 Aug 2023, 22:17

                      @Corjan-Meijerink, I don't know why, but I have the impression that I am not really able to tell what I mean!

                      I am NOT talking about Groups.
                      I am NOT talking about automatic adding tracklogs to events.

                      I know that organisers can add tracklogs manually to events. This is absolutely fine.
                      When I do this, all participants can watch these tracklogs including photos.

                      BUT: They have to use the WebSite or Route Lab which is quite complicated for the participants of envent.
                      The organiser can see his tracklogs also in the App under "Tracklogs" under his "own" Tab.

                      So my SUGGESTION is that participants of events can see the Tracklogs of events also in the App under "Tracklogs" under a NEW Tab "Events"
                      Same feature already exists in the App for Routes!
                      The possibility of showing Tracklog in the App (only own Tracklogs) is also alrady existing in the App.

                      The only missing part is to include the "Events" Tab under Tracklogs!
                      I think Tracklogs with pictures especially make sense for participants of events. Therefore I think this feature wourld be really usefull.

                      Hope I could explain what I mean 😉

                      Many thanks.
                      Tom

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                      wrote on 23 Aug 2023, 06:39 last edited by
                      #19

                      @Tom-Johann No I totally understand what you mean 😉

                      The reason it's not there - is because it's very underused. Myself, and others, were even under the impression that events did not have tracklogs.

                      So yes, I understand the request.
                      But no, not sure when 🙂

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                      • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                        23 Aug 2023, 06:39

                        @Tom-Johann No I totally understand what you mean 😉

                        The reason it's not there - is because it's very underused. Myself, and others, were even under the impression that events did not have tracklogs.

                        So yes, I understand the request.
                        But no, not sure when 🙂

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                        Tom Johann
                        wrote on 23 Aug 2023, 07:53 last edited by
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                        @Corjan-Meijerink,
                        oh I see, you doubt that tracklogs in events generally make sense.
                        My view: tracklogs ONLY make sense in events because:

                        • watching own tracklogs might be a bit booring 😉
                        • watching tracklogs of friends might be a bit uninteresting especially if there are many tracklogs

                        So I think the only reason why it makes sense, is to see the nice tours you had with your friends, which should be coverd in the events you participated.

                        And hey, btw. you did implement this function but just on the WebSide! 😉

                        Nevertheless, many thanks for you quick feedback 👍

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                          Tom Johann
                          wrote on 23 Aug 2023, 08:02 last edited by Tom Johann
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                          By the way.. I think the functionality on the WebSite is very good:

                          Event Tracklogs.jpg

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                            Tom Johann
                            wrote on 23 Aug 2023, 08:13 last edited by
                            #22

                            ..and also the App-Version is quite nice:

                            Event Tracklogs App.jpg

                            I am only missing the part to see it for my Events in the App 😉

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                              wrote on 23 Aug 2023, 08:15 last edited by
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                              Thanks! 🙂

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