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  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

    It's party time! πŸŽ‰

    I'm back from vacation and programming goes way better after driving for a couple thousand km with friends ❀ To celebrate this burst of productivity, a new beta version is coming your way! 😏

    The update will be available somewhere between today & tomorrow.

    Motorhome & motorcycle support
    The website has just been updated to facilitate motorhomes & motorcycles within the MRA Routeplanner (see announcement). Obviously the app needs to support this too!

    render_motor_camper.png

    You can now choose these travel modes within the app and even directly edit your vehicle dimensions! 😏 About this feature itself cannot be written a lot of fancy things, just be amazed by all the functionalities and now different vehicles we support within one app!

    The selected travel mode applies to your tracklog and generated routes. When navigating a selected route, the travel mode of that route is used.

    render_meta.png

    We therefore updated the route / track information screen to clearly display the travel mode. You'll also see that the list of routes / tracks also show the travel mode icon (rather than a generic icon) πŸŽ‰

    Automatic light / dark mode
    Who doesn't hate a bright screen when driving at night?
    We've added a new automatic theme to the navigation module to ensure the app switches to dark whenever it's night time or you're driving through a tunnel! πŸ™‚

    render_dark_light.png

    New way of presenting waypoint information
    A frustration for many! The top left instruction would be displaying a waypoint rather than the actual (crucial) route information. We've therefore ensured that waypoints aren't displayed there anymore.

    render_wp_info.png

    You can choose if waypoint info needs to be displayed (off / via / all) and when done so, it will be displayed like above. For viapoints the title / description will be shown when within 2km and for shaping points, when you are within 750m.

    Fastest / shortest route
    Choose between navigating the fastest or shortest route. Fastest is always default. When loading a route from the website, that choice will be honoured.

    Edit favorites from the app
    Yes! Finally! Now you can just rename a favorite from the app πŸ˜‰

    Simplified map added
    We aim to add even more map styles in the future. For now, we've added an extra official HERE map style, the simplified map. This one has different colour contrasts and shows less information. Obviously all crucial information will still be displayed.

    render_lite_mode.png

    Zoom correction and improved zooming
    Do you believe the app is zoomed in too much? Or not enough? Simply apply more or less zoom correction!

    We also ensured that when driving fast or on the highway, the app zooms out slightly more than before πŸ™‚

    Updated settings
    More settings to configure all these features!

    render_settings.png

    CarPlay / Android Auto changes
    Quite some new features too! 😏
    You can now:

    • Search for a destination
    • Select favorites
    • Quick POI suggestions
    • See recent searches
    • In Android Auto you can start navigating with "Hey Google..."

    render_cp.png

    Bugfixes / minors

    • Adding images from gallery
    • Stability regarding your login status within the app (sometimes you would see a login page when accessing favorites directly after launching the app / while in a bad reception area)
    • When camera warning is displayed, the buttons are no longer unreachable
    • Tracklog line slightly thinner
    • Navigation can be resumed when you do not have internet (and you started navigation with internet)

    Google location services issue Android
    An initial fix is released in this version but we do still expect some problems when these services are completely unavailable. To those who know what I'm talking about, please report back on this forum πŸ˜ƒ

    What's next?

    • More CarPlay & Android Auto features & further stability improvements
    • Voice instructions issue
    • Battery usage investigation with HERE
    • Offline maps download stability
    • Fuel stations on route

    Hope you enjoy this update! We are looking forward to your feedback.
    This 4.0.3 version is planned to be released to the public next week πŸŽ‰

    Best,
    Corjan

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      Corjan Meijerink
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      Android update is available just now.
      iOS is still in review by Apple.

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      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

        It's party time! πŸŽ‰

        I'm back from vacation and programming goes way better after driving for a couple thousand km with friends ❀ To celebrate this burst of productivity, a new beta version is coming your way! 😏

        The update will be available somewhere between today & tomorrow.

        Motorhome & motorcycle support
        The website has just been updated to facilitate motorhomes & motorcycles within the MRA Routeplanner (see announcement). Obviously the app needs to support this too!

        render_motor_camper.png

        You can now choose these travel modes within the app and even directly edit your vehicle dimensions! 😏 About this feature itself cannot be written a lot of fancy things, just be amazed by all the functionalities and now different vehicles we support within one app!

        The selected travel mode applies to your tracklog and generated routes. When navigating a selected route, the travel mode of that route is used.

        render_meta.png

        We therefore updated the route / track information screen to clearly display the travel mode. You'll also see that the list of routes / tracks also show the travel mode icon (rather than a generic icon) πŸŽ‰

        Automatic light / dark mode
        Who doesn't hate a bright screen when driving at night?
        We've added a new automatic theme to the navigation module to ensure the app switches to dark whenever it's night time or you're driving through a tunnel! πŸ™‚

        render_dark_light.png

        New way of presenting waypoint information
        A frustration for many! The top left instruction would be displaying a waypoint rather than the actual (crucial) route information. We've therefore ensured that waypoints aren't displayed there anymore.

        render_wp_info.png

        You can choose if waypoint info needs to be displayed (off / via / all) and when done so, it will be displayed like above. For viapoints the title / description will be shown when within 2km and for shaping points, when you are within 750m.

        Fastest / shortest route
        Choose between navigating the fastest or shortest route. Fastest is always default. When loading a route from the website, that choice will be honoured.

        Edit favorites from the app
        Yes! Finally! Now you can just rename a favorite from the app πŸ˜‰

        Simplified map added
        We aim to add even more map styles in the future. For now, we've added an extra official HERE map style, the simplified map. This one has different colour contrasts and shows less information. Obviously all crucial information will still be displayed.

        render_lite_mode.png

        Zoom correction and improved zooming
        Do you believe the app is zoomed in too much? Or not enough? Simply apply more or less zoom correction!

        We also ensured that when driving fast or on the highway, the app zooms out slightly more than before πŸ™‚

        Updated settings
        More settings to configure all these features!

        render_settings.png

        CarPlay / Android Auto changes
        Quite some new features too! 😏
        You can now:

        • Search for a destination
        • Select favorites
        • Quick POI suggestions
        • See recent searches
        • In Android Auto you can start navigating with "Hey Google..."

        render_cp.png

        Bugfixes / minors

        • Adding images from gallery
        • Stability regarding your login status within the app (sometimes you would see a login page when accessing favorites directly after launching the app / while in a bad reception area)
        • When camera warning is displayed, the buttons are no longer unreachable
        • Tracklog line slightly thinner
        • Navigation can be resumed when you do not have internet (and you started navigation with internet)

        Google location services issue Android
        An initial fix is released in this version but we do still expect some problems when these services are completely unavailable. To those who know what I'm talking about, please report back on this forum πŸ˜ƒ

        What's next?

        • More CarPlay & Android Auto features & further stability improvements
        • Voice instructions issue
        • Battery usage investigation with HERE
        • Offline maps download stability
        • Fuel stations on route

        Hope you enjoy this update! We are looking forward to your feedback.
        This 4.0.3 version is planned to be released to the public next week πŸŽ‰

        Best,
        Corjan

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        RouteXperts Instructor
        wrote on last edited by
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        @Corjan-Meijerink I see that you will be looking into the voice instructions soon.
        I use a Cardo Scala Packtalk and when traveling alone the voice instructions are perfectly clear and loud enough. When I am connected to Hannah the intercom is not interrupted to receive navigation instructions, the instructions can be heard but they are very quiet, too quiet to recognise. Both of our Cardo units have GPS instructions set as main audio source. It appears that the Cardo units are not receiving a signal from the app to shut the f@)k up 😊
        I’m hoping that you will find time to look into this as I know that I’m not the only Cardo user to experience this. X πŸ₯·πŸ‘πŸΌ

        IMG_2414.png

        Always willing to help if I can.
        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
        Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
        Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
        TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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          wrote on last edited by Nick Carthew
          #13

          4.0.3 now available for iOS

          Always willing to help if I can.
          Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
          MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
          Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
          Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
          TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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          • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

            4.0.3 now available for iOS

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            Corjan Meijerink
            administrator
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            @Nick-Carthew thanks!

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            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

              Android update is available just now.
              iOS is still in review by Apple.

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              wrote on last edited by
              #15

              @Corjan-Meijerink what does zoom correction do? If it adjusts zoom, by how much? Travel mode appears to have been set in the web planner. Is there a way to change a travel mode when starting a route? Seems a pain to have to go back and modify every route.

              2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                @Nick-Carthew thanks!

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                @Corjan-Meijerink OK, I give up, how do you change the driving mode for an existing route?

                2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

                  @Corjan-Meijerink OK, I give up, how do you change the driving mode for an existing route?

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                  #17

                  @Doug-Robinson said in New Beta! (v4.0.3) Motorhome & Motorcycle:

                  @Corjan-Meijerink OK, I give up, how do you change the driving mode for an existing route?

                  You can't...

                  BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                  iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                  Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                  Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

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                  • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

                    @Corjan-Meijerink what does zoom correction do? If it adjusts zoom, by how much? Travel mode appears to have been set in the web planner. Is there a way to change a travel mode when starting a route? Seems a pain to have to go back and modify every route.

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                    Nick Carthew
                    RouteXperts Instructor
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #18

                    @Doug-Robinson said in New Beta! (v4.0.3) Motorhome & Motorcycle:

                    @Corjan-Meijerink what does zoom correction do? If it adjusts zoom, by how much?

                    β€œ *Zoom correction and improved zooming
                    Do you believe the app is zoomed in too much? Or not enough? Simply apply more or less zoom correction!

                    We also ensured that when driving fast or on the highway, the app zooms out slightly more than before* πŸ™‚β€

                    By this statement I guess slightly more πŸ˜‰

                    Travel mode appears to have been set in the web planner. Is there a way to change a travel mode when starting a route? Seems a pain to have to go back and modify every route.

                    Travel mode is set at the planning stage. Open the route in the app and click the edit button, the route is now open via the website. Click the Show route details tab at the bottom and then click Route information to change Transport mode.

                    Why would you need to modify every route? Your routes have been ok up until now!
                    As stated in another topic, changing transport mode to motorcycle would have very little affect.

                    Always willing to help if I can.
                    Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                    MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                    Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                    Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                    TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                      #19

                      Do I understand correctly that the camper transport mode can only be used for routes and not for a-b routing?

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                      • Arno 0undefined Arno 0

                        Do I understand correctly that the camper transport mode can only be used for routes and not for a-b routing?

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                        RouteXperts Instructor
                        wrote on last edited by
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                        @Arno-0 Correct

                        Always willing to help if I can.
                        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                        Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                        Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                        TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                        • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                          @Doug-Robinson said in New Beta! (v4.0.3) Motorhome & Motorcycle:

                          @Corjan-Meijerink OK, I give up, how do you change the driving mode for an existing route?

                          You can't...

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                          #21

                          @Rob-Verhoeff

                          You can, but you would have to export as GPX1.1 and re-import then re-colour WP’s and and re-add the relevant icons.
                          Not ideal, but if this is the how it has to be, then so be it.
                          My OCD will not allow me to have a car icon when I can now have a Crash Helmet Icon 😧

                          You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                          • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                            @Arno-0 Correct

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                            @Nick-Carthew Thanks. Then it’s a nice future improvement to make the camper transport mode also available for a-b routing 😊. I mostly do not create a route for travelling in the Netherlands from home to a camper location.

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                            • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                              @Arno-0 Correct

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                              #23

                              @Nick-Carthew @Arno-0 An A-B route. When I click on the helmet, the other options appear. If I choose a camper route, then the app does show a different route indeed.

                              IMG_8629.jpeg

                              BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                              iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                              Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                              Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

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                              • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                                @Nick-Carthew @Arno-0 An A-B route. When I click on the helmet, the other options appear. If I choose a camper route, then the app does show a different route indeed.

                                IMG_8629.jpeg

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                                #24

                                @Rob-Verhoeff Thank you. I am happy to be corrected.

                                Always willing to help if I can.
                                Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                                MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                                Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                                Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                                TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                                • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                                  @Nick-Carthew @Arno-0 An A-B route. When I click on the helmet, the other options appear. If I choose a camper route, then the app does show a different route indeed.

                                  IMG_8629.jpeg

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                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #25

                                  @Rob-Verhoeff Thanks and you’re right πŸ‘. In the first screen after you’ve selected your destination, you can change the transport mode by clicking on the icon with the currently selected transport mode (car, bicycle, motorcycle, camper etc.). I didn’t notice this before πŸ˜‰.

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                                    #26

                                    @Arno-0 @Nick-Carthew @Rob-Verhoeff Campers can definitely be used for A-B routes!

                                    I’ll look into a way to quickly change transport modes for routes. Now you will indeed always use the transport mode as indicated by the planned route.

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                                    • RetiredWingManundefined RetiredWingMan

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink what does zoom correction do? If it adjusts zoom, by how much? Travel mode appears to have been set in the web planner. Is there a way to change a travel mode when starting a route? Seems a pain to have to go back and modify every route.

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                                      Corjan Meijerink
                                      administrator
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #27

                                      @Doug-Robinson the zoom correction really just slightly zooms in / out. However, the difference between β€œβ€”β€œ and β€œ++” is a full zoom level (quite much).
                                      If the app zoom wasn’t an issue for you, leave it as is.

                                      If you however always prefer a bit more / less zoom, this is the place to be.

                                      Besides this option, we improved the app zooming when driving faster >60kph or on the highway. We then zoom out slightly more as community (and personal) opinion was that the app would be zoomed in too much on highways. This cannot be turned off.

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                                        If you turn off the use of toll roads while in camper transport mode, it also turns off the use of highways. This is only in camper transport mode and not in car or motorcycle transport mode.

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                                        • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                                          @Doug-Robinson said in New Beta! (v4.0.3) Motorhome & Motorcycle:

                                          @Corjan-Meijerink what does zoom correction do? If it adjusts zoom, by how much?

                                          β€œ *Zoom correction and improved zooming
                                          Do you believe the app is zoomed in too much? Or not enough? Simply apply more or less zoom correction!

                                          We also ensured that when driving fast or on the highway, the app zooms out slightly more than before* πŸ™‚β€

                                          By this statement I guess slightly more πŸ˜‰

                                          Travel mode appears to have been set in the web planner. Is there a way to change a travel mode when starting a route? Seems a pain to have to go back and modify every route.

                                          Travel mode is set at the planning stage. Open the route in the app and click the edit button, the route is now open via the website. Click the Show route details tab at the bottom and then click Route information to change Transport mode.

                                          Why would you need to modify every route? Your routes have been ok up until now!
                                          As stated in another topic, changing transport mode to motorcycle would have very little affect.

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                                          @Nick-Carthew thank you. I'll have to play with the zoom setting to see what the impact is. I always felt that the zoom level was too high allowing a look down the road of only about 300 m. I prefer 1 to 2 km.

                                          I look forward to a time when certain settings, such as route options (avoid options for example), can be saved and automatically loaded based on selected travel mode. I tend to use different options when traveling by car vs motorcycle.

                                          2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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