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    richtea999
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    wrote on 27 Jul 2023, 15:09 last edited by
    #5

    Ah, that's vital! Good. Was there any indication of the level of improvement we can expect, say compared to Google Maps, or is it just 'We'll improve it'?

    And if their API is Flutter-based, tell them to stop calling setState() all the time! πŸ‘ 😡

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      27 Jul 2023, 15:09

      Ah, that's vital! Good. Was there any indication of the level of improvement we can expect, say compared to Google Maps, or is it just 'We'll improve it'?

      And if their API is Flutter-based, tell them to stop calling setState() all the time! πŸ‘ 😡

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      Corjan Meijerink
      Developer
      wrote on 27 Jul 2023, 16:00 last edited by
      #6

      @richtea999 Just improving πŸ˜‰ Very curious about what they come up with.

      Hahaha, and why that? πŸ˜‰

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        27 Jul 2023, 16:00

        @richtea999 Just improving πŸ˜‰ Very curious about what they come up with.

        Hahaha, and why that? πŸ˜‰

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        richtea999
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        wrote on 27 Jul 2023, 16:45 last edited by richtea999
        #7

        @Corjan-Meijerink said in Statement regarding battery usage:

        @richtea999 Just improving πŸ˜‰ Very curious about what they come up with.

        Hahaha, and why that? πŸ˜‰

        setState() forces a stateful widget to redraw, and if HERE have them all over their code, it may cause many unneeded redraws of the screen. It's quite hard work to keep those calls to the absolute minimum.

        You may request or define a 40 frames/second, but if they're calling setState() 100/second, it's going to be doing the 100 regardless of your requested setting.

        But I'm teaching Grandma to suck eggs, as they say!

        Well done for twisting their arm. Fingers crossed it gets properly fixed.

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          27 Jul 2023, 16:45

          @Corjan-Meijerink said in Statement regarding battery usage:

          @richtea999 Just improving πŸ˜‰ Very curious about what they come up with.

          Hahaha, and why that? πŸ˜‰

          setState() forces a stateful widget to redraw, and if HERE have them all over their code, it may cause many unneeded redraws of the screen. It's quite hard work to keep those calls to the absolute minimum.

          You may request or define a 40 frames/second, but if they're calling setState() 100/second, it's going to be doing the 100 regardless of your requested setting.

          But I'm teaching Grandma to suck eggs, as they say!

          Well done for twisting their arm. Fingers crossed it gets properly fixed.

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          Corjan Meijerink
          Developer
          wrote on 27 Jul 2023, 17:42 last edited by
          #8

          @richtea999 ah like that πŸ˜‰

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            Flat Twin Therapy
            wrote on 27 Jul 2023, 18:50 last edited by
            #9

            Thanks Corjan!! Really looking forward to that fix!! It really prevents me from using MRA for navigation. Tracking is fine. Navigating drains my Android phone.

            Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
            https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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              paul69
              wrote on 27 Jul 2023, 19:27 last edited by
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              excellent news thanks

              to achieve, we must first attempt ✌️
              K1600 GTL
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              • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                27 Jul 2023, 06:54

                Hi all! πŸ‘‹

                As some noticed, the battery usage of the app is quite high.
                This is a known issue since spring and as you might know, the issue is caused by the HERE engine that renders the map.

                I've been on the phone with my local contact @ HERE and they've confirmed the issue and expect an improvement in Q3 2023 (meaning in the next 2 months) πŸ™‚

                We are totally dependent on HERE regarding this issue and hope their planned improvements to resolve the issues you experience.

                Cheers,
                Corjan

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                Lynchy67
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                wrote on 28 Jul 2023, 11:20 last edited by Lynchy67
                #11

                @Corjan-Meijerink

                Personally, I have no battery issues!

                I set the display Brightness to 50% in Android.
                Using a 2.1 Amp Din Plug the Battery is always showing an increasing percentage.
                I never use any Voice commands in the app.
                And only use the following settings in the app.

                Phone is Samsung S21+

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                You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                  Rob Verhoeff
                  Alpha tester
                  wrote on 29 Jul 2023, 17:23 last edited by
                  #12

                  Today, during a ride of over 2 hours, I didn't experience any battery issues. I started with a capacity of only 25%. By the end of the ride, it charged up to over 80%. I didn't have any other apps running in the background, only the Bluetooth connection with the Sena was active.

                  BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                  iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                  Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                  Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Sequoia & Monterey)

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                  • undefined Flat Twin Therapy
                    27 Jul 2023, 18:50

                    Thanks Corjan!! Really looking forward to that fix!! It really prevents me from using MRA for navigation. Tracking is fine. Navigating drains my Android phone.

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                    Herman 1b
                    wrote on 7 Aug 2023, 19:43 last edited by
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                    @Rolf-Aalders said in Statement regarding battery usage:

                    Thanks Corjan!! Really looking forward to that fix!! It really prevents me from using MRA for navigation. Tracking is fine. Navigating drains my Android phone.

                    Likewise. On a recent trip I was forced to switch back to the old Navigation app as my battery was going down too fast (despite charging).

                    I thought the old Navigation app also used HERE. Is that not the case?

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                      7 Aug 2023, 19:43

                      @Rolf-Aalders said in Statement regarding battery usage:

                      Thanks Corjan!! Really looking forward to that fix!! It really prevents me from using MRA for navigation. Tracking is fine. Navigating drains my Android phone.

                      Likewise. On a recent trip I was forced to switch back to the old Navigation app as my battery was going down too fast (despite charging).

                      I thought the old Navigation app also used HERE. Is that not the case?

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                      Corjan Meijerink
                      Developer
                      wrote on 7 Aug 2023, 19:49 last edited by
                      #14

                      @Herman-1b yes, correct. But a very different version / platform than it is now so they cannot be compared.

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                        28 Jul 2023, 11:20

                        @Corjan-Meijerink

                        Personally, I have no battery issues!

                        I set the display Brightness to 50% in Android.
                        Using a 2.1 Amp Din Plug the Battery is always showing an increasing percentage.
                        I never use any Voice commands in the app.
                        And only use the following settings in the app.

                        Phone is Samsung S21+

                        Screenshot_20230728_115320.jpg

                        Screenshot_20230728_115402.jpg

                        Screenshot_20230728_115434.jpg

                        Screenshot_20230728_115500.jpg

                        Screenshot_20230728_115525.jpg

                        Screenshot_20230728_122427.jpg

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                        Fred Gilbert
                        wrote on 8 Aug 2023, 02:57 last edited by
                        #15

                        @Lynchy67

                        I used your settings and it seemed to work. The charge state held more or less steady.

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                        • undefined Fred Gilbert
                          8 Aug 2023, 02:57

                          @Lynchy67

                          I used your settings and it seemed to work. The charge state held more or less steady.

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                          Drabslab
                          wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 10:00 last edited by
                          #16

                          Yesterday, on samsung A32, and with phone on the charger all the time, the battery went empty in 2 hours with only navigation running.

                          OK, it was only 50% charged to start with but nevertheless...

                          Travelling to Austria on thursday will be with TomTom, I am affraid. 😞

                          I hope HERE comes with a good solution soon.

                          It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                          • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                            27 Jul 2023, 06:54

                            Hi all! πŸ‘‹

                            As some noticed, the battery usage of the app is quite high.
                            This is a known issue since spring and as you might know, the issue is caused by the HERE engine that renders the map.

                            I've been on the phone with my local contact @ HERE and they've confirmed the issue and expect an improvement in Q3 2023 (meaning in the next 2 months) πŸ™‚

                            We are totally dependent on HERE regarding this issue and hope their planned improvements to resolve the issues you experience.

                            Cheers,
                            Corjan

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                            Marinus van Deudekom
                            Valued contributor
                            wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 11:26 last edited by
                            #17

                            @Corjan-Meijerink today Another test. This time with my Samsung S20FE in the car with Android radio. I started the trip with 90% Battery and after a 2 hours drive it ended with 73% battery. All the time the phone was hooked up with a usb cable to a 2 amp socket. The phone was quite warm but not steamy hot.
                            So its better than it was before the update but still the battery gets drained
                            Hopefully it will be better in the near future

                            Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                            Honda Silverwing GL 650
                            DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                            Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                            Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                              richtea999
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                              wrote on 16 Aug 2023, 18:29 last edited by richtea999
                              #18

                              @Drabslab said in Statement regarding battery usage:

                              OK, it was only 50% charged to start with but nevertheless...

                              Not a solution, but a work-around might be to investigate your charger current output, and consider a more powerful one if it's less than say 2A.

                              The A32 can manage a max input wattage of 15W, so that's a current of around 3A max.

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                                16 Aug 2023, 18:29

                                @Drabslab said in Statement regarding battery usage:

                                OK, it was only 50% charged to start with but nevertheless...

                                Not a solution, but a work-around might be to investigate your charger current output, and consider a more powerful one if it's less than say 2A.

                                The A32 can manage a max input wattage of 15W, so that's a current of around 3A max.

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                                Con Hennekens
                                Alpha tester
                                wrote on 17 Aug 2023, 07:07 last edited by
                                #19

                                @richtea999, good suggestion!

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                  Martin Wilcke
                                  wrote on 19 Aug 2023, 15:57 last edited by
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                                  I did my first lap with the app today. I use a Samsung S8+, the power comes from a BAAS mini-USB, which only supplies 1A.
                                  The brightness was permanently set to max, besides MRA I was running the Garmin Drive app (with Bluetooth connection to my Zumo XT) and an app to monitor the battery charge.

                                  On the MRA app, route navigation and tracking were on all the time. The map settings were Theme=Light, Type=Normal, Building=Off.

                                  I started with a battery charge of 80%, after two hours the battery was fully charged. So no problems with battery capacity at all.

                                  Maybe the power consumption depends a lot on the smartphone model?

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                                  • Martin Wilckeundefined Martin Wilcke
                                    19 Aug 2023, 15:57

                                    I did my first lap with the app today. I use a Samsung S8+, the power comes from a BAAS mini-USB, which only supplies 1A.
                                    The brightness was permanently set to max, besides MRA I was running the Garmin Drive app (with Bluetooth connection to my Zumo XT) and an app to monitor the battery charge.

                                    On the MRA app, route navigation and tracking were on all the time. The map settings were Theme=Light, Type=Normal, Building=Off.

                                    I started with a battery charge of 80%, after two hours the battery was fully charged. So no problems with battery capacity at all.

                                    Maybe the power consumption depends a lot on the smartphone model?

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                                    Con Hennekens
                                    Alpha tester
                                    wrote on 20 Aug 2023, 12:45 last edited by
                                    #21

                                    @Martin-Wilcke said in Statement regarding battery usage:

                                    Maybe the power consumption depends a lot on the smartphone model?

                                    For sure, and probably mainly on the internal graphics engine. It feels like the graphics engine is used 100% whatever settings are used. Less capable graphical logic leads to less problem with drainage. Therefore the problem is likely more eminent on high(er)-end phones.

                                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                    • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                                      27 Jul 2023, 06:54

                                      Hi all! πŸ‘‹

                                      As some noticed, the battery usage of the app is quite high.
                                      This is a known issue since spring and as you might know, the issue is caused by the HERE engine that renders the map.

                                      I've been on the phone with my local contact @ HERE and they've confirmed the issue and expect an improvement in Q3 2023 (meaning in the next 2 months) πŸ™‚

                                      We are totally dependent on HERE regarding this issue and hope their planned improvements to resolve the issues you experience.

                                      Cheers,
                                      Corjan

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                                      Shawn Graham
                                      wrote on 9 Jun 2024, 13:27 last edited by
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                                      @Corjan-Meijerink this issue appears unresolved. I'm still having an issue.

                                      How do we fix it. I can't use if battery runs out before I get where I'm going

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                                      • undefined Shawn Graham
                                        9 Jun 2024, 13:27

                                        @Corjan-Meijerink this issue appears unresolved. I'm still having an issue.

                                        How do we fix it. I can't use if battery runs out before I get where I'm going

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                                        Corjan Meijerink
                                        Developer
                                        wrote on 9 Jun 2024, 13:29 last edited by
                                        #23

                                        @Shawn-Graham well that’s correct πŸ™‚
                                        They have made minor improvements but yet the real fix still needs to be found!

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                                          wrote on 9 Jun 2024, 18:39 last edited by
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                                          Hi @Corjan-Meijerink!

                                          Many hanks for the update.

                                          Thomas

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