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    Michel van Hagen MRA-Founder
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    wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 09:39 last edited by
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    As director of MyRoute-app, I have to choose the name of the app. That is not as easy as it seems 😵 . The company name is MyRoute-app. We have 2 products: 1. MRA Route Planner. 2. MRA Navigation Next. I think that's the most logical choice.

    But...

    The app is more than just a navigation app, it is also an extension of the website. In the future, more and more web functions will also be built into the app. That's why we named the free app 'MyRoute-app'. Recognizable and easy to find via search and future-proof.

    The name of the navigation module that you can buy in-app or via the website is MRA Navigation Next, which is also the name we use for marketing and sales. You download the MyRoute app for free and you buy the MRA Navigation Next subscription for premium navigation.

    That's how it is now.

    Tips and comments are always allowed 😊 .

    “People don’t take trips, trips take people.” – John Steinbeck

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      Jörgen
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      wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 10:07 last edited by
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      @Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder said in Discussion about the name:

      Navigation Next

      I like the naming "MRA Navigation Next", that works for most languages, it says something about the origin and that it is something new or a successor and is modern with a view into future.

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        19 Jun 2023, 09:39

        As director of MyRoute-app, I have to choose the name of the app. That is not as easy as it seems 😵 . The company name is MyRoute-app. We have 2 products: 1. MRA Route Planner. 2. MRA Navigation Next. I think that's the most logical choice.

        But...

        The app is more than just a navigation app, it is also an extension of the website. In the future, more and more web functions will also be built into the app. That's why we named the free app 'MyRoute-app'. Recognizable and easy to find via search and future-proof.

        The name of the navigation module that you can buy in-app or via the website is MRA Navigation Next, which is also the name we use for marketing and sales. You download the MyRoute app for free and you buy the MRA Navigation Next subscription for premium navigation.

        That's how it is now.

        Tips and comments are always allowed 😊 .

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        Richard 18
        wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 10:14 last edited by Richard 18
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        @Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder

        Naming things is always tricky. Rather like the contents of spreadsheets, what makes perfect sense to one person, sometimes makes no sense to someone else.

        At the moment you have three things:

        1. MRA Route Planner. This is also sort of known as Route Lab and sometimes spelt Routeplanner. This is where people create routes, create groups, share stuff etc.

        2. MyRoute-app, which is the free version of the new ‘navigation and much much more’ app.

        3. MRA Navigation Next, the new module, which bolts onto (if that is the right expression) the My Route-app.

        I am active in the wide audience UKGSer forum’s GPS subsection and know for sure that it all creates some confusion, not least when people are not clear which of the three products they are talking about or (most likely) they just don’t know.

        I think a part of the confusion comes from the repetition of MyRoute in the names. I can understand why you do it, as it’s the name of the parent company. But, it might not make life easy for some people.

        Think of the giant Unilever company, with hundreds of brands. They don’t put Unilever in front of each of their products. But naming is not as easy as dropping something. Tyre companies, Michelin or Dunlop, for example, keep the company name in front of the individual model of tyre. People then drop the company name, saying “I love my Super Cup tyres”, expecting everyone to know that they are made by Michelin. Microsoft, all but drops it. For example, it’s Word, PowerPoint, Excel, with no real reference to Microsoft at all.

        Good luck finding a new name or names…. To some it will be genius, to others crazy.

        All the best,

        Richard

        PS I like the NEXT name, too.

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          Tom Cat
          wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 10:27 last edited by
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          Personally, I prefer MRA Route Planner and MRA Navigation Next. I never really liked the app part of the name because it's more than just an app and 99% of my routes are planned on a laptop where I have a bigger screen and easy access to other tools I use to plan a route. I get that it's part of the company name, but I think MRA covers that.

          I enjoyed being part of the beta and you guys did an awesome job at revamping the product. Congratulations!

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            19 Jun 2023, 09:39

            As director of MyRoute-app, I have to choose the name of the app. That is not as easy as it seems 😵 . The company name is MyRoute-app. We have 2 products: 1. MRA Route Planner. 2. MRA Navigation Next. I think that's the most logical choice.

            But...

            The app is more than just a navigation app, it is also an extension of the website. In the future, more and more web functions will also be built into the app. That's why we named the free app 'MyRoute-app'. Recognizable and easy to find via search and future-proof.

            The name of the navigation module that you can buy in-app or via the website is MRA Navigation Next, which is also the name we use for marketing and sales. You download the MyRoute app for free and you buy the MRA Navigation Next subscription for premium navigation.

            That's how it is now.

            Tips and comments are always allowed 😊 .

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            Con Hennekens
            wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 10:42 last edited by
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            @Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder, If you call the Navigation app "Next" I am already curious what the next app will be called 😉

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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              19 Jun 2023, 10:42

              @Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder, If you call the Navigation app "Next" I am already curious what the next app will be called 😉

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              Rob Verhoeff
              wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 10:50 last edited by
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              @Con-Hennekens "Branding" is such a difficult part of the whole proces. Ziggo does the same with their mediabox. They call it "Mediabox Next". I agree with you. What's comming "next" 😏

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              • undefined Michel van Hagen MRA-Founder
                19 Jun 2023, 09:39

                As director of MyRoute-app, I have to choose the name of the app. That is not as easy as it seems 😵 . The company name is MyRoute-app. We have 2 products: 1. MRA Route Planner. 2. MRA Navigation Next. I think that's the most logical choice.

                But...

                The app is more than just a navigation app, it is also an extension of the website. In the future, more and more web functions will also be built into the app. That's why we named the free app 'MyRoute-app'. Recognizable and easy to find via search and future-proof.

                The name of the navigation module that you can buy in-app or via the website is MRA Navigation Next, which is also the name we use for marketing and sales. You download the MyRoute app for free and you buy the MRA Navigation Next subscription for premium navigation.

                That's how it is now.

                Tips and comments are always allowed 😊 .

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                Bart De Medts
                wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 11:12 last edited by
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                @Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder personally, I would just call it Navigation.... without the "next".

                Using a DMD-T665 navigation phone on my motorcycle with a SilverFox controller.
                Wireless CarPlay in my car (iPhone 15).

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                • undefined Michel van Hagen MRA-Founder
                  19 Jun 2023, 09:39

                  As director of MyRoute-app, I have to choose the name of the app. That is not as easy as it seems 😵 . The company name is MyRoute-app. We have 2 products: 1. MRA Route Planner. 2. MRA Navigation Next. I think that's the most logical choice.

                  But...

                  The app is more than just a navigation app, it is also an extension of the website. In the future, more and more web functions will also be built into the app. That's why we named the free app 'MyRoute-app'. Recognizable and easy to find via search and future-proof.

                  The name of the navigation module that you can buy in-app or via the website is MRA Navigation Next, which is also the name we use for marketing and sales. You download the MyRoute app for free and you buy the MRA Navigation Next subscription for premium navigation.

                  That's how it is now.

                  Tips and comments are always allowed 😊 .

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                  Stefan Hummelink
                  wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 11:14 last edited by Stefan Hummelink
                  #8

                  @Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder In my opinion the "Next" appendix in the name should be removed. In 3 months time, nobody remembers the " old" MRA Navigation app and with it it's relation to a SEPARATE app.

                  I would simply offer the following product types and put out a e-mail to every registered user how the new system is connected together.

                  MyRoute-App Routeplanner
                  MyRoute-App Mobile (excl./incl. add-in Navigation module)

                  Along with the e-mail, the table view that is now hidden underneath the 'show all features' should be redesigned to be an eye-catching first view when one enters the webshop. Perhaps even an interactive flowchart that one can follow to identify the subscription one needs based on the features one wants to be able to use.

                  It all starts with identifying the differences between routeplanner subscription and navigation subscription.

                  Manks bu'j te bange.

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                    19 Jun 2023, 11:12

                    @Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder personally, I would just call it Navigation.... without the "next".

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                    Ad Bouman
                    wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 11:32 last edited by
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                    @Bart-DM I agree. I worked for a company who had the names of their products prefixed with NEWGEN (New Generation). The marketing department decided that had to be dropped after 5 years also.

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                      19 Jun 2023, 11:12

                      @Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder personally, I would just call it Navigation.... without the "next".

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                      Con Hennekens
                      wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 11:35 last edited by
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                      @Bart-DM, I agree, because that's what it is. The subscription should be called Navigation. The App already has a name. MyRoute-App...

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                        Nick Carthew
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                        wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 12:06 last edited by
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                        First of all I think that the name MyRoute-app should only be used for the company as a whole. I also think that all products should start with the prefix MRA.
                        MRA RoutePlanner
                        MRA Mobile
                        MRA Navigation

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                          19 Jun 2023, 12:06

                          First of all I think that the name MyRoute-app should only be used for the company as a whole. I also think that all products should start with the prefix MRA.
                          MRA RoutePlanner
                          MRA Mobile
                          MRA Navigation

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                          Bart De Medts
                          wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 12:37 last edited by
                          #12

                          @Nick-Carthew Exact!

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                            19 Jun 2023, 12:06

                            First of all I think that the name MyRoute-app should only be used for the company as a whole. I also think that all products should start with the prefix MRA.
                            MRA RoutePlanner
                            MRA Mobile
                            MRA Navigation

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                            Jack van Tilburg
                            wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 12:41 last edited by
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                            @Nick-Carthew +1 👍

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                              Michel van Hagen MRA-Founder
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                              wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 13:19 last edited by
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                              We do not think MRA Mobile covers the load if you are looking for a route app in the App Store and Google Play.

                              That is why we chose MyRoute-app, a brand name with protection. If you find us via the protected brand name 'MyRoute-app', you can choose from the products MRA Routeplanner and MRA Navigation Next or continue to use MyRoute-app for free.

                              With the Next addition, we distance ourselves from the old, not so well-reviewed app. After all, we have embarked on a new path. There will therefore be no Next after the Next.

                              But interesting discussion, keep it alive!

                              “People don’t take trips, trips take people.” – John Steinbeck

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                                19 Jun 2023, 12:06

                                First of all I think that the name MyRoute-app should only be used for the company as a whole. I also think that all products should start with the prefix MRA.
                                MRA RoutePlanner
                                MRA Mobile
                                MRA Navigation

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                                Richard 18
                                wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 13:32 last edited by
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                                @Nick-Carthew said in Discussion about the name:

                                First of all I think that the name MyRoute-app should only be used for the company as a whole. I also think that all products should start with the prefix MRA.
                                MRA RoutePlanner
                                MRA Mobile
                                MRA Navigation

                                I agree. That is what I was sort of leaning towards with my comment about Unilever.

                                Use MyRoute only for corporate or holding company stuff. Likewise, MyRoute app.

                                For everything else, the three (hopefully) simple names should do.

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                                  19 Jun 2023, 13:19

                                  We do not think MRA Mobile covers the load if you are looking for a route app in the App Store and Google Play.

                                  That is why we chose MyRoute-app, a brand name with protection. If you find us via the protected brand name 'MyRoute-app', you can choose from the products MRA Routeplanner and MRA Navigation Next or continue to use MyRoute-app for free.

                                  With the Next addition, we distance ourselves from the old, not so well-reviewed app. After all, we have embarked on a new path. There will therefore be no Next after the Next.

                                  But interesting discussion, keep it alive!

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                                  Bart De Medts
                                  wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 14:55 last edited by
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                                  @Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder I understand you, but the old app will be forgotten very quickly. That you choose the name MyRoute app instead of MRA makes sense to me.

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                                  Wireless CarPlay in my car (iPhone 15).

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                                    19 Jun 2023, 12:06

                                    First of all I think that the name MyRoute-app should only be used for the company as a whole. I also think that all products should start with the prefix MRA.
                                    MRA RoutePlanner
                                    MRA Mobile
                                    MRA Navigation

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                                    Drabslab
                                    wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 15:32 last edited by
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                                    @Nick-Carthew said in Discussion about the name:

                                    MRA RoutePlanner
                                    MRA Mobile
                                    MRA Navigation

                                    I largely agree, I see no reason to continue with MRA Mobile. Navigation is mobile as well, no?

                                    The "next" addition was a good title for the development project but can be forgotten now?

                                    And, I do hope that the "next" phase of the routeplanner will remain a web and large screen based solution and not an attempt to squeeze route making into a tiny phone screen. 🙂

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                                      19 Jun 2023, 13:19

                                      We do not think MRA Mobile covers the load if you are looking for a route app in the App Store and Google Play.

                                      That is why we chose MyRoute-app, a brand name with protection. If you find us via the protected brand name 'MyRoute-app', you can choose from the products MRA Routeplanner and MRA Navigation Next or continue to use MyRoute-app for free.

                                      With the Next addition, we distance ourselves from the old, not so well-reviewed app. After all, we have embarked on a new path. There will therefore be no Next after the Next.

                                      But interesting discussion, keep it alive!

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                                      Stefan Hummelink
                                      wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 16:40 last edited by Stefan Hummelink
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                                      @Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder said in Discussion about the name:

                                      With the Next addition, we distance ourselves from the old, not so well-reviewed app. After all, we have embarked on a new path. There will therefore be no Next after the Next.

                                      Put yourself in the position of a potential new user 2 years from now. How does the Next addition in the name of MyRoute-App Navigation provide him with clear information? Next by itself implies a relation to something Previous. He/she most likely will never know about the old app since it is discontinued already by more than 1.75 years.

                                      In fact, I would even go as far saying that Next only makes sure he or she is coming here on the forum to ask about the meaning of this Next thing only to know that it was due to an old app that got less positive reviews.

                                      To me it would make sense to simply proceed with MyRoute-App Navigation as the title, since the apps are "merged" and no one can backtrack to the old app, except for the current user base, which should simply be informed about these critical changes.

                                      But hey, that's just my two cents. 😃

                                      Manks bu'j te bange.

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                                        19 Jun 2023, 13:19

                                        We do not think MRA Mobile covers the load if you are looking for a route app in the App Store and Google Play.

                                        That is why we chose MyRoute-app, a brand name with protection. If you find us via the protected brand name 'MyRoute-app', you can choose from the products MRA Routeplanner and MRA Navigation Next or continue to use MyRoute-app for free.

                                        With the Next addition, we distance ourselves from the old, not so well-reviewed app. After all, we have embarked on a new path. There will therefore be no Next after the Next.

                                        But interesting discussion, keep it alive!

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                                        wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 16:57 last edited by
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                                        @Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder said in Discussion about the name:

                                        That is why we chose MyRoute-app, a brand name with protection. If you find us via the protected brand name 'MyRoute-app', you can choose from the products MRA Routeplanner and MRA Navigation Next or continue to use MyRoute-app for free.

                                        And sadly when I have told people about MyRoute-app, their google search yields a different product, because they searched for MyRoute (not understanding that APP is part of the company name). MyRoute is similar enough to people that don't know (because it's a website for creating routes for fleet vehicles, etc).

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                                          19 Jun 2023, 16:40

                                          @Michel-van-Hagen-MRA-Founder said in Discussion about the name:

                                          With the Next addition, we distance ourselves from the old, not so well-reviewed app. After all, we have embarked on a new path. There will therefore be no Next after the Next.

                                          Put yourself in the position of a potential new user 2 years from now. How does the Next addition in the name of MyRoute-App Navigation provide him with clear information? Next by itself implies a relation to something Previous. He/she most likely will never know about the old app since it is discontinued already by more than 1.75 years.

                                          In fact, I would even go as far saying that Next only makes sure he or she is coming here on the forum to ask about the meaning of this Next thing only to know that it was due to an old app that got less positive reviews.

                                          To me it would make sense to simply proceed with MyRoute-App Navigation as the title, since the apps are "merged" and no one can backtrack to the old app, except for the current user base, which should simply be informed about these critical changes.

                                          But hey, that's just my two cents. 😃

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                                          wrote on 19 Jun 2023, 17:42 last edited by
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                                          @StefanHummelink, totally right!

                                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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