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  • undefined Con Hennekens
    24 Mar 2023, 08:18

    v3.2.10 has not landed on my Android yet. Previous version was available immediate after the announcement.

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    Corjan Meijerink
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    wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 09:48 last edited by
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    @Con-Hennekens Android has just been approved so it’s published and downloadable now 🎉

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      24 Mar 2023, 09:48

      @Con-Hennekens Android has just been approved so it’s published and downloadable now 🎉

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      wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 11:02 last edited by Con Hennekens
      #25

      @Corjan-Meijerink, yep, thanks!

      EDIT:
      Huh? the download is A LOT smaller than the previous version, only 12MB ?

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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      • undefined Corjan Meijerink
        23 Mar 2023, 22:11

        Thanks all for the kind words from you as community. Especially thankful for the amazing work put in by Joost he really is the beating heart of CarPlay 💓

        For all the Android people: we will now also start with Android Auto development, finally! 🎉 and expect that somewhere around (middle) May.

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        wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 11:18 last edited by
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        @Corjan-Meijerink Awesome update! Looking forward for Android Auto.

        If you can, one very nice feature for AA would be if you can define the app like a navigation app or a music app - toggleble. I know it sounds crazy, I don't know if it is possible, but a toggle for that would bring the window as the main navigation window OR the side window that usually is taken by the music app.

        The new AA Coolwalk interface kind of restricts you what can you place in the side window, and so far, I could only place music apps there.

        This way you can use both Waze and MRA on the same screen... Would be cool...

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        • undefined Corjan Meijerink
          23 Mar 2023, 22:11

          Thanks all for the kind words from you as community. Especially thankful for the amazing work put in by Joost he really is the beating heart of CarPlay 💓

          For all the Android people: we will now also start with Android Auto development, finally! 🎉 and expect that somewhere around (middle) May.

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          wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 13:50 last edited by Steve Lynch
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          @Corjan-Meijerink

          I was just about to mention that Round Trip direction button was a bit hit and miss!
          Then I worked out that you just keep tapping it and it spins a step clockwise for each tap.
          I'll get my coat......

          Blooming awesome.

          You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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            24 Mar 2023, 13:50

            @Corjan-Meijerink

            I was just about to mention that Round Trip direction button was a bit hit and miss!
            Then I worked out that you just keep tapping it and it spins a step clockwise for each tap.
            I'll get my coat......

            Blooming awesome.

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            wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 14:37 last edited by
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            @Steve-Lynch happy you figured it out 🙂 We do hope to improve it a bit later on 😉

            @Con-Hennekens no clue about the size - the total app size did not change a lot but maybe the update only required a partial download. Not sure how the play store manages that.

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              wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 14:55 last edited by
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              Ik snap er niets van. Ik gebruik Apple Carplay al behoorlijk lang met MRA Navigation. Werkt werkelijk uitstekend, mijn Zumo XT niet meer nodig en rijd de route op mijn eigen (Goldwing) scherm. Nu wordt het als iets nieuws aangekondigd, of bedoelen jullie in de MRA app zelf? Als dat zo is, waar is MRA navigation Dan nog voor nodig?

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              • undefined Ad V
                24 Mar 2023, 14:55

                Ik snap er niets van. Ik gebruik Apple Carplay al behoorlijk lang met MRA Navigation. Werkt werkelijk uitstekend, mijn Zumo XT niet meer nodig en rijd de route op mijn eigen (Goldwing) scherm. Nu wordt het als iets nieuws aangekondigd, of bedoelen jullie in de MRA app zelf? Als dat zo is, waar is MRA navigation Dan nog voor nodig?

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                wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 14:58 last edited by
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                @Ad-Vollebergh dat is precies het idee, deze app vervangt straks volledig de bestaande MRA Navigation app 🙂

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                  24 Mar 2023, 14:58

                  @Ad-Vollebergh dat is precies het idee, deze app vervangt straks volledig de bestaande MRA Navigation app 🙂

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                  wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 15:10 last edited by
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                  @Corjan-Meijerink Dan heb ik dus voor niets een lifetime subscription op MRA Navogation genomen?

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                  • undefined Ad V
                    24 Mar 2023, 15:10

                    @Corjan-Meijerink Dan heb ik dus voor niets een lifetime subscription op MRA Navogation genomen?

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                    wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 15:17 last edited by
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                    @Ad-Vollebergh said in New Beta! (v3.2.10) CarPlay, roundtrips and much more:

                    @Corjan-Meijerink Dan heb ik dus voor niets een lifetime subscription op MRA Navogation genomen?

                    NEE! De nieuwe navigatie app wordt geïntegreerd met MRA Mobile. Dus je hebt nog maar één app nodig straks. Je behoudt gewoon je abonnement op Navigation. Navigation Next blijft hetzelfde abonnement als je nu al hebt, en sterker, waarmee je überhaupt toegang hebt tot dit (beta) deel van het forum 😉

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      24 Mar 2023, 15:10

                      @Corjan-Meijerink Dan heb ik dus voor niets een lifetime subscription op MRA Navogation genomen?

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                      wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 15:45 last edited by
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                      @Ad-Vollebergh exact, precies zoals @Con-Hennekens zegt 🙂 De aanschaf is juist heel slim geweest aangezien je nu al toegang hebt tot de Beta, kan meebeslissen in het proces middels dit forum en voor de goedkoopste prijs levenslang kan genieten 🎉

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                        wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 17:08 last edited by
                        #34

                        Happy to share that iOS is now also available to download 🎉

                        @Bart-DM the long wait is over 😉

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                        • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                          24 Mar 2023, 17:08

                          Happy to share that iOS is now also available to download 🎉

                          @Bart-DM the long wait is over 😉

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                          wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 17:30 last edited by
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                          @Corjan-Meijerink
                          IOS 3.2.10 just became available to me.

                          You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                          • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                            24 Mar 2023, 17:08

                            Happy to share that iOS is now also available to download 🎉

                            @Bart-DM the long wait is over 😉

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                            wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 17:56 last edited by
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                            @Corjan-Meijerink already testing 😉

                            🏍️ Motorcycle: DMD-T665 + SilverFox controller
                            🚗 Car: iPhone 15 Pro with wireless Apple CarPlay

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                            • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                              24 Mar 2023, 17:08

                              Happy to share that iOS is now also available to download 🎉

                              @Bart-DM the long wait is over 😉

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                              Steve Lynch
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                              wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 18:00 last edited by
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                              @Corjan-Meijerink

                              Can we use Offline Maps just on the phone now or is it only currently available for Car Play use?

                              You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                              • undefined Steve Lynch
                                24 Mar 2023, 18:00

                                @Corjan-Meijerink

                                Can we use Offline Maps just on the phone now or is it only currently available for Car Play use?

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                                wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 18:07 last edited by
                                #38

                                @Steve-Lynch the offline maps should also be used by CarPlay. Offline routing however still needs to be added 🙂

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                                • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                                  24 Mar 2023, 18:07

                                  @Steve-Lynch the offline maps should also be used by CarPlay. Offline routing however still needs to be added 🙂

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                                  wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 18:08 last edited by
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                                  @Corjan-Meijerink

                                  Ok thanks for the confirmation.

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                                    24 Mar 2023, 18:00

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink

                                    Can we use Offline Maps just on the phone now or is it only currently available for Car Play use?

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                                    wrote on 24 Mar 2023, 18:45 last edited by Herko ter Horst
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                                    @Steve-Lynch said in New Beta! (v3.2.10) CarPlay, roundtrips and much more:

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink

                                    Can we use Offline Maps just on the phone now or is it only currently available for Car Play use?

                                    Please note that when using CarPlay (and Android Auto), the apps still run on your phone. It's basically comparable to attaching an external screen and keyboard/mouse to a laptop: everything still runs on the laptop and the screen and keyboard/mouse are only used for output and input. Same with CarPlay/Android Auto: basically everything still runs on your phone and the screen in your car/on your bike and your vehicle's controls are used to interact with it.

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                                    • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                                      22 Mar 2023, 17:00

                                      Hey everyone! 👋

                                      The update you have been anxiously waiting for is finally in the pipeline to be processed. You can expect access to the new Beta version before the weekend. Given the CarPlay integration, we expect a slightly longer review period by Apple.

                                      There are a lot of cool features and changes to the app.
                                      Let's get started! 🎉

                                      Round trips
                                      If any of you ever tried to create a roundtrip with the app, you know how much time it can take. A very painstaking and user unfriendly process. From launching the app to having a new roundtrip is now only 2 clicks. Want to navigate it? Just another 2 extra clicks 😉

                                      roundtrip.png

                                      Open the menu, click "round trip" and away you go.
                                      You can adjust the distance, heading and curvature of the route. Easy as that!
                                      If you really want to get into details, you can even avoid specific sections 😏 Talking about avoidance, let's move on to the next big change!

                                      Avoid options
                                      When generating a route, we allowed you to select the curvature of the route but that was all! We now implemented all avoid options as they are available on the routeplanner (website)!

                                      avoid.png

                                      When selecting the fastest route, the only available avoid options are:

                                      • Highways
                                      • Ferries
                                      • Tolls

                                      This because those options are also available within HERE. Nice detail: we save your preference for these 3 options so that we can automatically choose the avoid settings like you did the last time 💪
                                      When switching to another curvature setting (not the fastest), we have defined certain presets of avoid options. You are free to alter them. For these curvature options the following extra avoid options are available:

                                      • Cities
                                      • Main roads
                                      • Residential areas

                                      When starting the navigation with the fastest routing options, you will use the default navigation from HERE where you can (again) set (different) avoid options. If you start navigation from any curvy (not fastest) routing setting, you will start the HERE track navigation! 🎉

                                      track_navigation.png

                                      For track navigation, no avoid options are available.

                                      When you create a route in the online routeplanner and set different avoid options, these are now honoured by the app! 😏 You can choose to turn them on / off before starting the navigation but this won't effect the route as saved online in the routeplanner.
                                      It doesn't even matter if the route has been made in HERE / TomTom or OSM! 🎉 The app will respect your settings as long as it knows what is means. For example: the OSM avoid cities option for routes won't work in the app when starting that route. If the avoid option exists for the HERE map in the routeplanner, the app knows what to do with it.

                                      Layout improvements
                                      A bit of a continuous detail but none the less important! We have again improved the new menu to make sure the user experience keeps improving.

                                      layout_v2.png

                                      We also split the Navigation settings menu into multiple screens to give it a cleaner look.

                                      settings.png

                                      Offline maps
                                      The biggest issue was that it was unclear what regions were downloaded.

                                      offline_maps.png

                                      We fixed this by adding a little check mark in front of the downloaded regions. When deleting a region we now ask you to confirm this. Further improvements to the general stability / download progress insights will be tackled in another update.

                                      Favorites
                                      People were quite sad they couldn't save their current location as favorite while navigating. This has now been added to the menu!

                                      favorite.png

                                      Besides that, we now also ask you to confirm the removal of a favorite. The ability to change the name of favorites from within the app will be added later.

                                      Satellite maps
                                      For those who want to know more about the terrain they are driving through, we added a new map layer: satellite maps 🎉

                                      satellite.png

                                      Especially for the (occasional) offroad rider we expect this to be a nice addition.

                                      Note: these maps are not downloaded offline with the "offline maps". You will always need internet for these maps and data usage will be higher given the higher level of detail

                                      Fixed camera mode
                                      A cool new camera mode has been added! Tap the compass to cycle between the default dynamic zooming mode or the fixed camera mode. The dynamic mode is exactly how you know it, the fixed mode keeps north up and uses a fixed zoom level. For now you cannot change the zoom but that will be added! 🙂

                                      Minor changes

                                      • Navigation menu can now be closed by tapping on the map
                                      • Long pressing the compass focusses the entire route

                                      Bluetooth controller updates

                                      • Zoom in now possible with '='
                                      • Zooming in or out will keep the camera following your location using the described fixed camera behavior.

                                      CarPlay🎉 🎉
                                      There it is ladies & gentlemen! The first version of CarPlay.
                                      Thanks a lot to Joost for being the sole person responsible for developing this project. The foundation is amazing and we will be able to add a lot of cool new CarPlay features in the upcoming updates.

                                      render_routing.png

                                      Crucial about this first Beta release of CarPlay is that all features need to be started using your phone. Do you want to navigatie a route / to a favorite location / a roundtour etc.. just do this on your phone while CarPlay is connected. Once you click "Start" (like you would normally start the navigation) - it will also start in CarPlay 😉

                                      When opening your route overview in HERE, you can also select an alternative route from CarPlay! Starting the actual Navigation will show the instructions etc in CarPlay.

                                      render_main.png

                                      Within CarPlay you can fit the route to the screen and pan around like you would want to 🙂

                                      render_pan_fit.png

                                      You can also use the app in CarPlay dashboard view! 🎉 This is something the current "MRA Navigation" app doesn't support at all.

                                      render_dashboard.png

                                      From the dashboard view some extra features are already available! You can quickly load your last route and start / cancel the navigation of a route.

                                      Now it is very important that all testers understand that this early Beta of CarPlay. This means that a lot of features are still missing. Please don't waste your own time by suggesting that navigating to a favorite location or showing a route list is a crucial feature. We know! 😃

                                      Lastly there are some important issues with regards to CarPlay that we already know about (these will be addressed in a future update):

                                      • MyRoute-app Mobile needs to be launched or in the background before connecting CarPlay
                                      • Start CarPlay while on the home screen (the one shown when launching the app 😉)
                                      • CarPlay is only in English
                                      • Maneuvers & voice instructions can be slightly delayed (as compared to your phone) and sometimes show an incorrect (read: previous) maneuver
                                      • Lane instructions are missing
                                      • Maneuver icons for the next maneuver can be too small

                                      We are very curious about your feedback! Hope you all enjoy this massive update 🎉

                                      Best from us at MRA! ❤

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                                      wrote on 26 Mar 2023, 11:15 last edited by
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                                      @Corjan-Meijerink Wonderful work from the whole team!!👍 👍

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                                        24 Mar 2023, 18:45

                                        @Steve-Lynch said in New Beta! (v3.2.10) CarPlay, roundtrips and much more:

                                        @Corjan-Meijerink

                                        Can we use Offline Maps just on the phone now or is it only currently available for Car Play use?

                                        Please note that when using CarPlay (and Android Auto), the apps still run on your phone. It's basically comparable to attaching an external screen and keyboard/mouse to a laptop: everything still runs on the laptop and the screen and keyboard/mouse are only used for output and input. Same with CarPlay/Android Auto: basically everything still runs on your phone and the screen in your car/on your bike and your vehicle's controls are used to interact with it.

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                                        wrote on 26 Mar 2023, 12:54 last edited by Steve Lynch
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                                        @Herko-ter-Horst

                                        Thanks for the info.
                                        However I have no intention of using CP or AA, I am happy to just use the phone on the handlebars.

                                        I generate my own Route-Tracks and just love the simplicity provided by running Route-Tracks.
                                        Once the Route-Track is loaded I never need to touch the screen at all.

                                        If I am out on my own on the bike, I never plan stops I just stop for Scenery, to stretch the legs or for food/drink.

                                        You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                                          26 Mar 2023, 12:54

                                          @Herko-ter-Horst

                                          Thanks for the info.
                                          However I have no intention of using CP or AA, I am happy to just use the phone on the handlebars.

                                          I generate my own Route-Tracks and just love the simplicity provided by running Route-Tracks.
                                          Once the Route-Track is loaded I never need to touch the screen at all.

                                          If I am out on my own on the bike, I never plan stops I just stop for Scenery, to stretch the legs or for food/drink.

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                                          wrote on 26 Mar 2023, 13:52 last edited by
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                                          @Steve-Lynch said in New Beta! (v3.2.10) CarPlay, roundtrips and much more:

                                          @Herko-ter-Horst

                                          Thanks for the info.
                                          However I have no intention of using CP or AA, I am happy to just use the phone on the handlebars.

                                          I generate my own Route-Tracks and just love the simplicity provided by running Route-Tracks.
                                          Once the Route-Track is loaded I never need to touch the screen at all.

                                          If I am out on my own on the bike, I never plan stops I just stop for Scenery, to stretch the legs or for food/drink.

                                          IDK... Might be worth considering getting that phone off the handlebars. Get's the phone out of the elements, wear and tear on the battery (heat etc.) and eliminates potential damage from vibration/shock. Seen some reports about phone cameras being trashed (particularly iPhones) with this type of use.

                                          There are various post on this forum where folks are trying out the wireless AA/CP display device. Those things are cheap in comparison to new smartphones and are probably better suited to taking the punishment/abuse (time will tell). Plus, AA/CP provides a nice user interface. Might be worth consideration.

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