CarPlay and Android Auto device
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So I already played on table with powerbank on table - and it does the job. BUT I am able to reproduce the connectivity error several times
After 6,7,8 OK reboots connection is lost and it wont come back even if i restart several times, but it will com back if i manually confirm BT:
recorded issues between ok starts:
- 2 x lost connectivity asking for bt connectivity
- BT on device was OFF, even after 2 restarts, and I could not activate it
- after third attempt BT was back and it asked for reconnectivity
- cleared all and repaired....
Randomly this happens.....
What is your FW version?
@Jure-Sirena-0 said in CarPlay and Android Auto device:
So I already played on table with powerbank on table - and it does the job. BUT I am able to reproduce the connectivity error several times
After 6,7,8 OK reboots connection is lost and it wont come back even if i restart several times, but it will com back if i manually confirm BT:
recorded issues between ok starts:
- 2 x lost connectivity asking for bt connectivity
- BT on device was OFF, even after 2 restarts, and I could not activate it
- after third attempt BT was back and it asked for reconnectivity
- cleared all and repaired....
Randomly this happens.....
What is your FW version?
My version numbers are exactly the same. I've had no issues with mine automatically connecting to my phones. I've tried many times to see if it would fail. No failures so far. It also switches between my Android and iPhone with no problems. Whichever phone it connected last will be the one the unit automatically connects to the next time. If the unit can't find that phone it will connect to the other one (assuming it's there/available). So far it's been flawless. I can't get it to fail. If I find a way, I'll report back.
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Nothing changed from yesterday, I start device today, puf in first attempt I get BT sign top right (or middle) but CP wont start, restart device, same.....until I manually click on the device in iphone BT menu to reconnect (it already said connected....)
I guess I am the lucky one, this device is POS
Please try your device with iphone locked (screen lock) I might noticed this happens randomly only when phone locked, or leave some pause in between
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Reproduced connectivity error 2x more today. Now I am pi*** off at myself to accept the partial refund instead of return
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Reproduced connectivity error 2x more today. Now I am pi*** off at myself to accept the partial refund instead of return
@Jure-Sirena-0 and another notice after being ON for 2 hours - its really hot, and I am in office. Please try this also (I have it on table in cradle) its hot fron/back
If you add hot weather outside i dont have big hopes. I dont have thermal gun or something to check, but its now at at least 40-45C, even plastic chassis holder is hot.Defenetly write off for me, will put it up for sale for funny small price
P.S. currently lost connection again. longer pauses in between causes it
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Nothing changed from yesterday, I start device today, puf in first attempt I get BT sign top right (or middle) but CP wont start, restart device, same.....until I manually click on the device in iphone BT menu to reconnect (it already said connected....)
I guess I am the lucky one, this device is POS
Please try your device with iphone locked (screen lock) I might noticed this happens randomly only when phone locked, or leave some pause in between
@Jure-Sirena-0 said in CarPlay and Android Auto device:
Nothing changed from yesterday, I start device today, puf in first attempt I get BT sign top right (or middle) but CP wont start, restart device, same.....until I manually click on the device in iphone BT menu to reconnect (it already said connected....)
I guess I am the lucky one, this device is POS
Please try your device with iphone locked (screen lock) I might noticed this happens randomly only when phone locked, or leave some pause in between
I have the screen locked on both my phones when driving this unit. I experience no problems with the screen locked or unlocked.
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@Jure-Sirena-0 and another notice after being ON for 2 hours - its really hot, and I am in office. Please try this also (I have it on table in cradle) its hot fron/back
If you add hot weather outside i dont have big hopes. I dont have thermal gun or something to check, but its now at at least 40-45C, even plastic chassis holder is hot.Defenetly write off for me, will put it up for sale for funny small price
P.S. currently lost connection again. longer pauses in between causes it
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@Jure-Sirena-0 and another notice after being ON for 2 hours - its really hot, and I am in office. Please try this also (I have it on table in cradle) its hot fron/back
If you add hot weather outside i dont have big hopes. I dont have thermal gun or something to check, but its now at at least 40-45C, even plastic chassis holder is hot.Defenetly write off for me, will put it up for sale for funny small price
P.S. currently lost connection again. longer pauses in between causes it
@Jure-Sirena-0 said in CarPlay and Android Auto device:
@Jure-Sirena-0 and another notice after being ON for 2 hours - its really hot, and I am in office. Please try this also (I have it on table in cradle) its hot fron/back
If you add hot weather outside i dont have big hopes. I dont have thermal gun or something to check, but its now at at least 40-45C, even plastic chassis holder is hot.Defenetly write off for me, will put it up for sale for funny small price
P.S. currently lost connection again. longer pauses in between causes it
I'd probably be displeased too if I were experiencing your problems.
I've been running mine all morning to see if there are some heat issues. Nothing so far. The unit is barely warmer than room temp... about what you'd expect with it driving a display this bright. It's just warm enough that you can tell it's on and running.
I wonder if your phone (or it's settings) might be in play here. Have a custom ROM? Oh wait... It's an iPhone. Never mind. Some relevant settings changed from default?
Same token with the unit - any relevant settings changed/incorrect?
Also... I don't know which outfit you bought the unit from, but have you reached out to them for some tech support?
Only other thing that I might be doing differently... I've been running/powering mine via the USB port. I haven't tried powering mine with the power cable on the back of the mount nor have I tried the supplied power adapter. I don't know what you got there for a power pack. Might want to try either the USB connected to a computer or phone charger or try the supplied power adapter.
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@Jure-Sirena-0 said in CarPlay and Android Auto device:
@Jure-Sirena-0 and another notice after being ON for 2 hours - its really hot, and I am in office. Please try this also (I have it on table in cradle) its hot fron/back
If you add hot weather outside i dont have big hopes. I dont have thermal gun or something to check, but its now at at least 40-45C, even plastic chassis holder is hot.Defenetly write off for me, will put it up for sale for funny small price
P.S. currently lost connection again. longer pauses in between causes it
I'd probably be displeased too if I were experiencing your problems.
I've been running mine all morning to see if there are some heat issues. Nothing so far. The unit is barely warmer than room temp... about what you'd expect with it driving a display this bright. It's just warm enough that you can tell it's on and running.
I wonder if your phone (or it's settings) might be in play here. Have a custom ROM? Oh wait... It's an iPhone. Never mind. Some relevant settings changed from default?
Same token with the unit - any relevant settings changed/incorrect?
Also... I don't know which outfit you bought the unit from, but have you reached out to them for some tech support?
Only other thing that I might be doing differently... I've been running/powering mine via the USB port. I haven't tried powering mine with the power cable on the back of the mount nor have I tried the supplied power adapter. I don't know what you got there for a power pack. Might want to try either the USB connected to a computer or phone charger or try the supplied power adapter.
@Tim-Thompson Thx for info.
I am using chassis cable to USB, its same if I plug it in powerbank or PC or wall charger.
But I never tried integrated usb port, lets see good idea. Still if you cut power to device its then more about its internal ROM capabilites, regardless of powersource
ios is official and last 16.3.1in the meantime I had reproduced 2x more connectivity loss and I am getting some ideas about it
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I am now able to reproduce the error. After the device is off for more then 2-3 hours, preferebly overnight, it losses connection. But phone is still in the device under BT menue as paired, but CP wont start, not even manually
- video
- I left it over night (even on USB power as you can see) and tried to turn it on via device button
- look at that it wont start......
- reset the power device starts
- as expected only BT sign no Carplay...will not even start manualy
- unpair - pair again it works for next few restarts
- i turn it off
- video
- after 4hours i turn it on
- look at that problem is back....as expected....
I am now discussing with supplier to send me last fw....so I can play with this 'demo' device for all of us, it will defenetely not go on bike...
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I am now able to reproduce the error. After the device is off for more then 2-3 hours, preferebly overnight, it losses connection. But phone is still in the device under BT menue as paired, but CP wont start, not even manually
- video
- I left it over night (even on USB power as you can see) and tried to turn it on via device button
- look at that it wont start......
- reset the power device starts
- as expected only BT sign no Carplay...will not even start manualy
- unpair - pair again it works for next few restarts
- i turn it off
- video
- after 4hours i turn it on
- look at that problem is back....as expected....
I am now discussing with supplier to send me last fw....so I can play with this 'demo' device for all of us, it will defenetely not go on bike...
@Jure-Sirena-0 said in CarPlay and Android Auto device:
I am now able to reproduce the error. After the device is off for more then 2-3 hours, preferebly overnight, it losses connection. But phone is still in the device under BT menue as paired, but CP wont start, not even manually
- video
- I left it over night (even on USB power as you can see) and tried to turn it on via device button
- look at that it wont start......
- reset the power device starts
- as expected only BT sign no Carplay...will not even start manualy
- unpair - pair again it works for next few restarts
- i turn it off
- video
- after 4hours i turn it on
- look at that problem is back....as expected....
I am now discussing with supplier to send me last fw....so I can play with this 'demo' device for all of us, it will defenetely not go on bike...
I doubt this will make a difference... But noted in your video that you are still powering it via the cradle's power cable. Might want to take the TF card/USB port cover off the left side of the unit and try powering the device using the min-USB port. That's how I've been powering the thing so far.
I ran mine again all evening. No issues with function, heat etc.
Sorry to hear that you are having these issues. Hopefully the supplier/vendor can provide you with adequate technical support.
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@Jure-Sirena-0 said in CarPlay and Android Auto device:
I am now able to reproduce the error. After the device is off for more then 2-3 hours, preferebly overnight, it losses connection. But phone is still in the device under BT menue as paired, but CP wont start, not even manually
- video
- I left it over night (even on USB power as you can see) and tried to turn it on via device button
- look at that it wont start......
- reset the power device starts
- as expected only BT sign no Carplay...will not even start manualy
- unpair - pair again it works for next few restarts
- i turn it off
- video
- after 4hours i turn it on
- look at that problem is back....as expected....
I am now discussing with supplier to send me last fw....so I can play with this 'demo' device for all of us, it will defenetely not go on bike...
I doubt this will make a difference... But noted in your video that you are still powering it via the cradle's power cable. Might want to take the TF card/USB port cover off the left side of the unit and try powering the device using the min-USB port. That's how I've been powering the thing so far.
I ran mine again all evening. No issues with function, heat etc.
Sorry to hear that you are having these issues. Hopefully the supplier/vendor can provide you with adequate technical support.
@Tim-Thompson I tried that port, was same, its easier to continue work in cradle. Now able to reproduce it I think I understand it, and I might even be able to fix it with my (very basic) developer skills
Please be so kind and let me know if your setting (by default) is ON or OFF:
device settings / bluetooth / paired / 'select your paired iphone' /
HFP on or off?
A2DP on or off?
and the one I am interested in particular SPP on or off?Many thanks
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@Tim-Thompson I tried that port, was same, its easier to continue work in cradle. Now able to reproduce it I think I understand it, and I might even be able to fix it with my (very basic) developer skills
Please be so kind and let me know if your setting (by default) is ON or OFF:
device settings / bluetooth / paired / 'select your paired iphone' /
HFP on or off?
A2DP on or off?
and the one I am interested in particular SPP on or off?Many thanks
@Jure-Sirena-0 said in CarPlay and Android Auto device:
@Tim-Thompson I tried that port, was same, its easier to continue work in cradle. Now able to reproduce it I think I understand it, and I might even be able to fix it with my (very basic) developer skills
Please be so kind and let me know if your setting (by default) is ON or OFF:
device settings / bluetooth / paired / 'select your paired iphone' /
HFP on or off?
A2DP on or off?
and the one I am interested in particular SPP on or off?Many thanks
All profiles are set to off on mine.
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@Jure-Sirena-0 said in CarPlay and Android Auto device:
@Tim-Thompson I tried that port, was same, its easier to continue work in cradle. Now able to reproduce it I think I understand it, and I might even be able to fix it with my (very basic) developer skills
Please be so kind and let me know if your setting (by default) is ON or OFF:
device settings / bluetooth / paired / 'select your paired iphone' /
HFP on or off?
A2DP on or off?
and the one I am interested in particular SPP on or off?Many thanks
All profiles are set to off on mine.
@Tim-Thompson
As expected. Before confirming I might found a fix, i will try first few power ups after the night -
@Tim-Thompson
As expected. Before confirming I might found a fix, i will try first few power ups after the night@Jure-Sirena-0 After 3 days of testing we found out it happens on my iphone 13 Pro while not on my sons Iphone X
both are 16.3.1 ios...
now this one is tough to crack...
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So I've done the permanent install. Wired the power supply into the bikes switched accessories power via this kit...
Electrical Connection Update Kit
Routed harness to the right side of the bike and installed the power supply there...
Wiring routed up through the backbone of the frame and out the left side...
Display mounted. Phone resides in windshield bag with power routed to it from the USB port.
The red arrow points to a Chargie...
As mentioned before... The Chargie manages battery charging and temperature. AFAIK there are generally two ways to get this kind of control... Software which requires rooting the phone and this hardware approach. The Chargie works pretty well for this task.
Overall I'm pretty pleased with this setup. The phone (battery/heat/cold/elements) won't get stressed and the CP/AA display works great. I've tried an intercom system with it. Everything pairs and works as expected. As discussed before.. Some had mentioned that they don't like that the display unit doesn't have an internal battery to prevent power cycles/reboots when you start the bike etc. This has absolutely not been a problem. The display unit powers up and reconnects to everything within 30 seconds. If you had a Nav session going before shutdown (say stopping for gas), the route/navigation session is still there when the system reboots and reconnects.
The only nit that I've found so far is that the BINIZE unit's firmware version doesn't yet have the Android Auto volume controls. Other "brands" have already provided the firmware update for that. Right now I'm using my iPhone, so it's not a problem. But sooner or later, I'll want to update the firmware.
