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  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

    @stefanhummelink, Who is that "Con Hennekens" character... 😀

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    @con-hennekens said in MRA Navigation and downloaded maps.:

    @stefanhummelink, Who is that "Con Hennekens" character... 😀

    Don't know him, does he seem familiar to you? 😁

    Manks bu'j te bange.

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    • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

      @drabslab

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      Con Hennekens
      Ik begreep dat de ontwikkeling van Navigation werd geoutsourced. Is dat misgelopen, en gaan jullie het dan toch zelf doen? Misschien goed om eens iets in het forum te publiceren daar over. Sommige gebruikers zijn ongeduldig 😉
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      Topfan
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      Con Hennekens Eens, duidelijkere communicatie over de status en aanpak van Navigation. De recente enquête over Nav Next heeft het absoluut niet duidelijker gemaakt.

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      Na MRA Mobile gaan we aan Navigation Next werken. Hier is alvast een preview en visie: https://blog-myrouteapp.com/navigating-via-mra-navigation/
      Navigeren via MRA Navigation...
      BLOG-MYROUTEAPP.COM
      Navigeren via MRA Navigation...
      Navigeren via MRA Navigation...

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      Topfan
      Stefan Hummelink
      MyRoute-app Maar wat ik mij tijdens de enquête over next ook al afvroeg: in de huidige nav app zitten nog heel veel zaken die verbeterd of opgelost moeten worden, en nu komt er een nieuwe MRA Nav versie, genaamd Next. Dit komt ook op mij als trouwe MRA gebruiker van beide apps, een beetje vreemd over. Er lijkt nu, zeker ook op basis van alle activiteit op het forum over MRA Nav, al resourcestekort te zijn om de bestaande Nav app te verbeteren en bugfoxes door te voeren, laat staan een volledig nieuwe app te ontwikkelen? Betekent de Next variant dat er aan de huidige Nav niets meer verbeterd wordt?

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      Con Hennekens
      Stefan Hummelink, ik lees dat Navigation gebruikers gewoon overstappen naar Next. Dus waarom zou je de oude app dan nog willen gebruiken?

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      Topfan
      Stefan Hummelink
      Con Hennekens "gebruik kunnen maken van de nieuwe app, dit is een keiharde garantie!" Dat doet suggereren dat beide apps zullen blijven bestaan. Dat vind ik gewoon merkwaardig. In de eerdere communicatie over next via die enquête, werd ook de indruk gewekt dat beide apps parallel zullen draaien. Op het forum is hier ook kritisch op gereageerd. Natuurlijk zal ik ook gewoon gebruiken wat gangbaar is, maar het feit blijft dat het nu al zeer lastig blijkt bugfixes en/of verbeteringen door te voeren op Nav, dus het ontwikkelen van een geheel nieuwe variant lijkt echt een bridge too far. Natuurlijk kan dat wel, mits geaccepteerd wordt dat de huidige app blijft zoals die is.
      De vraag "waarom moeten er überhaupt twee versies blijven bestaan" is net zo legitiem, toch?

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      Con Hennekens
      Stefan Hummelink, zeker, maar net zoals jij zie ik niet in waarom je 2 apps met dezelfde functie zou gaan onderhouden. Dat heeft alleen zin als de nieuwe versie functies ontbeert die de oude wel heeft. Ook vind ik een overgangsjaar wel zinvol, zodat je bij gebleken onoverkomelijke bugs kunt terugvallen op de oude app. Dat de nieuwe uiteindelijk de oude overbodig maakt lijkt me evident.

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      Er komt een nieuwe navigatie app die op termijn huidige navigatie app gaat vervangen. Omdat we de app in een nieuwe taal gaan schrijven is dat efficiënter. De huidige app wordt tot die tijd gewoon onderhouden. We zijn nu het ontwerp aan het uitschrijven op basis van de onderzoeksresultaten.
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      Topfan
      Stefan Hummelink
      MyRoute-app "onderhouden" betekent ook nog vernieuwingen of alleen bugfixes?

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      Con Hennekens
      Stefan Hummelink, nu we weten dat de nieuwe app de oude gaat vervangen, zie ik liever dat ze die effort can vernieuwing steken in de nieuwe app. Ik ben wel reuze benieuwd naar een ETA 😉

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      Topfan
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      Con Hennekens Nou... Als ETA uitkomt op ca 2 jaar, dan zie ik toch nog wel graag verbeteringen aan de huidige versie doorgevoerd worden. 🤭

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      Con Hennekens
      Stefan Hummelink, dat is zeker inderdaad! Laten we hopen dat er wat vaart in komt.
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      @stefanhummelink

      Slightly cynical: I wonder how long the "new blog" will be maintained 🙂 🙂 The forum lost their attention after only 2 years.

      And on Facebook they admit that the roadmap for the routeplanner is not followed anymore. Just a pity of the time we put into this.

      It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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        @stefanhummelink

        Slightly cynical: I wonder how long the "new blog" will be maintained 🙂 🙂 The forum lost their attention after only 2 years.

        And on Facebook they admit that the roadmap for the routeplanner is not followed anymore. Just a pity of the time we put into this.

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        @drabslab
        I hate Facebook. And that's why I rarely look at the MRA page. When I look there I don't see any requests for support like the ones made here on the forum.
        But if the activities would fade to FB, I'm done. And that also applies if MRA will inform FB visitors better than forum visitors.

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        • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

          @drabslab
          I hate Facebook. And that's why I rarely look at the MRA page. When I look there I don't see any requests for support like the ones made here on the forum.
          But if the activities would fade to FB, I'm done. And that also applies if MRA will inform FB visitors better than forum visitors.

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          @jack-van-tilburg

          I hear ya Jack!

          At least we have Hans and Nick still here and i think they have a line to the devs.

          You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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          • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

            @stefanhummelink

            Slightly cynical: I wonder how long the "new blog" will be maintained 🙂 🙂 The forum lost their attention after only 2 years.

            And on Facebook they admit that the roadmap for the routeplanner is not followed anymore. Just a pity of the time we put into this.

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            @drabslab

            @Drabslab, MRA has certainly not lost the attention for the forum and the points in the roadmap are also processed, possibly in a slightly different order, such as the POIs, as I have indicated before, this is done at the request of the RouteXperts.

            The forum will certainly continue to be used for what it is intended for, working together on solutions. You can also create a support ticket for all problems via the website.
            So please don't give up if things don't go the way you've always been used to, take a look where MRA is now. The users are certainly listened to and read on the forum.
            We know that not everything is 100%, or works as someone would expect, but we are working hard on that.
            The FB page is used to announce news, there are no topics discussed that are discussed on the forum, at most people are pointed to the forum.

            Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
            Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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            • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

              @drabslab

              @Drabslab, MRA has certainly not lost the attention for the forum and the points in the roadmap are also processed, possibly in a slightly different order, such as the POIs, as I have indicated before, this is done at the request of the RouteXperts.

              The forum will certainly continue to be used for what it is intended for, working together on solutions. You can also create a support ticket for all problems via the website.
              So please don't give up if things don't go the way you've always been used to, take a look where MRA is now. The users are certainly listened to and read on the forum.
              We know that not everything is 100%, or works as someone would expect, but we are working hard on that.
              The FB page is used to announce news, there are no topics discussed that are discussed on the forum, at most people are pointed to the forum.

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              @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master
              I often read between the lines that requests from RouteExperts are highly valued.
              Does that concern the entire group of Experts?

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              • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master
                I often read between the lines that requests from RouteExperts are highly valued.
                Does that concern the entire group of Experts?

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                @jack-van-tilburg perhaps not the IT experts 🙂

                It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                  @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master
                  I often read between the lines that requests from RouteExperts are highly valued.
                  Does that concern the entire group of Experts?

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                  @jack-van-tilburg said in MRA Navigation and downloaded maps.:

                  Does that concern the entire group of Experts?

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                  Manks bu'j te bange.

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                  • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

                    @jack-van-tilburg said in MRA Navigation and downloaded maps.:

                    Does that concern the entire group of Experts?

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                    @stefanhummelink Fantastic, at least we are able to have agood laugh 🙂 🙂 🙂

                    It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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                    • Jack van Tilburgundefined Jack van Tilburg

                      @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master
                      I often read between the lines that requests from RouteExperts are highly valued.
                      Does that concern the entire group of Experts?

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                      @jack-van-tilburg said in MRA Navigation and downloaded maps.:

                      I often read between the lines that requests from RouteExperts are highly valued.
                      Does that concern the entire group of Experts?

                      you read it right 😊 😉

                      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                        @tom-cat In online mode, you are reliant on MRA’s cloud based navigable mapping. For the circumstances you outline, downloading the relevant regional map(s) and using offline mode would seem to be the way to go. In terms of routes prepared by you, again, they are all cloud based and these cannot be downloaded for storage on your device.

                        This is massive failing with Navigation as customers must have an internet connection to access a route initially. Having accessed it and started following it in offline mode, in theory you should be fine. In practice, this isn’t always the case. Leaving the app while en route (during a break for instance) often causes a break in navigation. Bizarrely, in my experience, fully stopping the app (by removing it from your ‘recent apps’ screen), reopening it and returning to navigation can see it restored (!???), though not entirely reliably. But I have experienced numerous instances where the app simply crashes and hangs, or goes haywire for no apparent reason and navigation has been lost completely. Sometimes, it is even necessary to delete the app and reinstall it! Then, obviously, internet access is required to get up and running again, which might not be possible. Weak wifi and phone data signals can also leave customers struggling to access routes, both initially and in restoring navigation, etc.

                        Why on Earth MRA saw fit to exclude the facility for downloading routes for local access, particularly given that they have done precisely this for regional navigable maps, is utterly beyond me. And the failings arising from that omission alone make a nonsense of MRA’s marketing claims that the combination of Routeplanner and Navigation offer an alternative to dedicated sat nav devices, which seems nothing short of misleading. If not misleading, then deluded.

                        The great shame is that MRA seem hell bent on ignoring clear and persistent issues with Navigation, with support and development now seemingly absent. Meanwhile they continue to develop mere fripperies for the already very adequate and generally highly functional Routeplanner and even touting a second navigation app (called ‘Next’ which, from its description, sounds like a dumbed down ‘nanny’ affair) to be offered in tandem with Navigation! It’s as if they are unable to comprehend that, in order to be able to fulfil their marketing claims, a strong, stable, reliable and fully developed Navigation is absolutely vital. Navigation is what caused me to buy into the MRA ‘ecosystem’, not Routeplanner - I am perfectly happy to use BaseCamp if I’m to use my sat nav.

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                        @pad-0 Thank you for the reply. This is really a shame as I'd like fully functional online features but rely on downloaded maps in case I hit a dead zone. I do this with Google Maps for general navigation and even my TomTom will show traffic if I connect it to my phone with a downloaded route. I think this is a huge oversight and probably would not have bought the lifetime Navigation license had I known. I would have just stuck with my TomTom. Oh well, I should have done the research prior to purchasing.

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                        • Tom Catundefined Tom Cat

                          @pad-0 Thank you for the reply. This is really a shame as I'd like fully functional online features but rely on downloaded maps in case I hit a dead zone. I do this with Google Maps for general navigation and even my TomTom will show traffic if I connect it to my phone with a downloaded route. I think this is a huge oversight and probably would not have bought the lifetime Navigation license had I known. I would have just stuck with my TomTom. Oh well, I should have done the research prior to purchasing.

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                          @tom-cat Very disappointing, isn’t it. Your only hope (mine too) is that MRA gets its act together and provides something that honours its currently misleading marketing claims.

                          But I won’t hold my breath…

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                            @tom-cat Very disappointing, isn’t it. Your only hope (mine too) is that MRA gets its act together and provides something that honours its currently misleading marketing claims.

                            But I won’t hold my breath…

                            ☹️

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                            @pad-0 said in MRA Navigation and downloaded maps.:

                            @tom-cat Very disappointing, isn’t it. Your only hope (mine too) is that MRA gets its act together and provides something that honours its currently misleading marketing claims.

                            Sigh...do we really need to repeat that discussion...

                            @tom-cat, as far as I am concerned there are no misleading claims. Offline Navigation just works. Besides having the maps downloaded off-line, you need to load the routes you want to drive during your off-line stay once. If you do that, these routes will be cached off-line and are visible in BOLD when you are off-line.

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                            In my opinion that is much less effort than importing gpx files to a dedicated satnav device that you have to do else way. The only thing is that MRA does not document this very well (ok, maybe at all). That last route I have opened months ago, and I can just open it up and start navigating it in flight mode. I have never discovered how long and under what circumstances routes keep being cached locally. Things could be improved for sure, and better documented. But don't be discouraged by some people that have convinced themselves all is worthless.

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                            • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                              @pad-0 said in MRA Navigation and downloaded maps.:

                              @tom-cat Very disappointing, isn’t it. Your only hope (mine too) is that MRA gets its act together and provides something that honours its currently misleading marketing claims.

                              Sigh...do we really need to repeat that discussion...

                              @tom-cat, as far as I am concerned there are no misleading claims. Offline Navigation just works. Besides having the maps downloaded off-line, you need to load the routes you want to drive during your off-line stay once. If you do that, these routes will be cached off-line and are visible in BOLD when you are off-line.

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                              In my opinion that is much less effort than importing gpx files to a dedicated satnav device that you have to do else way. The only thing is that MRA does not document this very well (ok, maybe at all). That last route I have opened months ago, and I can just open it up and start navigating it in flight mode. I have never discovered how long and under what circumstances routes keep being cached locally. Things could be improved for sure, and better documented. But don't be discouraged by some people that have convinced themselves all is worthless.

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                              @con-hennekens In answer to your opening question, yes! As long as the issues with Navigation persist.

                              Maybe the app works for you (using Android, if I’m not mistaken?). However, my direct experience of having used it on a day to day basis from the beginning of April to the end of October last year was very far from being reliable and an effective sat nav replacement (and please do bear in mind that I very much do want Navigation to be just that). In fact, out of the dozens of times I used the app only twice did it not misbehave (using it even when I knew precisely where I was going as a means of testing performance after a very disappointing introduction and frequent contact with the support team). And the misbehaviour came in ever changing ways.

                              The last straw came in Dublin where Navigation decided my chosen route was inappropriate and that I should do a grand tour of the city’s south side rather than follow it. After tying itself in knots, it crashed. There were no road closures to cause issues and I was using offline mode anyway. Seasonal closures were disabled, all waypoints accurately and legitimately placed, etc, etc. Luckily, I know Dublin very well indeed so I was able to ignore the craziness. But out of interest I switched on my ageing but trusty Zūmo 390 (I fabricated a mount that holds phone and sat nav side by side so that I could compare the performance of the two or switch easily to Garmin when Navigation almost invariably flipped its lid) to check whether it had problems with the same route. It picked it up effortlessly and ‘guided’ me to Dublin Port faultlessly… I think that speaks volumes as to those marketing claims.

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                                @con-hennekens In answer to your opening question, yes! As long as the issues with Navigation persist.

                                Maybe the app works for you (using Android, if I’m not mistaken?). However, my direct experience of having used it on a day to day basis from the beginning of April to the end of October last year was very far from being reliable and an effective sat nav replacement (and please do bear in mind that I very much do want Navigation to be just that). In fact, out of the dozens of times I used the app only twice did it not misbehave (using it even when I knew precisely where I was going as a means of testing performance after a very disappointing introduction and frequent contact with the support team). And the misbehaviour came in ever changing ways.

                                The last straw came in Dublin where Navigation decided my chosen route was inappropriate and that I should do a grand tour of the city’s south side rather than follow it. After tying itself in knots, it crashed. There were no road closures to cause issues and I was using offline mode anyway. Seasonal closures were disabled, all waypoints accurately and legitimately placed, etc, etc. Luckily, I know Dublin very well indeed so I was able to ignore the craziness. But out of interest I switched on my ageing but trusty Zūmo 390 (I fabricated a mount that holds phone and sat nav side by side so that I could compare the performance of the two or switch easily to Garmin when Navigation almost invariably flipped its lid) to check whether it had problems with the same route. It picked it up effortlessly and ‘guided’ me to Dublin Port faultlessly… I think that speaks volumes as to those marketing claims.

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                                @pad-0, I have a Zumo 390 too. I have not touched in in three years, since using Navigation. And yes, every now and then I have to pull over to give it a kick, but probably less often than with my zumo, that is far less handy considering skipping waypoints and things like that. It is largely a matter of perspective I guess.

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                  @pad-0, I have a Zumo 390 too. I have not touched in in three years, since using Navigation. And yes, every now and then I have to pull over to give it a kick, but probably less often than with my zumo, that is far less handy considering skipping waypoints and things like that. It is largely a matter of perspective I guess.

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                                  @con-hennekens Truly, I am delighted to learn that you haven’t needed to use your Garmin for so long. It gives a glimmer of hope! Perhaps that perspective is influenced by app version, Android vs iOS?

                                  For instance (and pertinently so, I think?) in the iOS app customers get no such highlighting of recently used routes as indicated in your post, above. This wasn’t covered in a recent discussion of using Navigation offline. It strikes me that this significant difference between app versions (one of a number of such) might help to explain our obviously very different user experiences when accessing, or trying to access, routes offline?

                                  From reading various forum conversations, I have wondered occasionally why the two app versions do differ in various ways? It seems a very odd way to be going about things?

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                                    @con-hennekens Truly, I am delighted to learn that you haven’t needed to use your Garmin for so long. It gives a glimmer of hope! Perhaps that perspective is influenced by app version, Android vs iOS?

                                    For instance (and pertinently so, I think?) in the iOS app customers get no such highlighting of recently used routes as indicated in your post, above. This wasn’t covered in a recent discussion of using Navigation offline. It strikes me that this significant difference between app versions (one of a number of such) might help to explain our obviously very different user experiences when accessing, or trying to access, routes offline?

                                    From reading various forum conversations, I have wondered occasionally why the two app versions do differ in various ways? It seems a very odd way to be going about things?

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                                    @pad-0 said in MRA Navigation and downloaded maps.:

                                    For instance (and pertinently so, I think?) in the iOS app customers get no such highlighting of recently used routes as indicated in your post, above. This wasn’t covered in a recent

                                    @con-hennekens said in MRA Navigation and downloaded maps.:

                                    ...ago, and I can just open it up and start navigating it in flight mode.

                                    To clarify some things: I myself did not see this highlighting before until Con pointed one very significant setting out: the Airplane mode of the phone. I was only able to show the highlighted routes (and with that my previuosly downloaded routes in Offline mode) after I've turned on Airplane mode. Even with the Nav app in Offline mode, but with 4G enabled, the app itself seems to be still in 'online mode' and therefore does not show the actually downloaded routes as highlighted and the rest greyed out). I usually don't drive in offline mode so I have no experience whether the nav actually works offline, when set in offline mode, but with 4G still enabled. @Con-Hennekens Can you perhaps elaborate on this set of conditions?

                                    Manks bu'j te bange.

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                                    • Stefan Hummelinkundefined Stefan Hummelink

                                      @pad-0 said in MRA Navigation and downloaded maps.:

                                      For instance (and pertinently so, I think?) in the iOS app customers get no such highlighting of recently used routes as indicated in your post, above. This wasn’t covered in a recent

                                      @con-hennekens said in MRA Navigation and downloaded maps.:

                                      ...ago, and I can just open it up and start navigating it in flight mode.

                                      To clarify some things: I myself did not see this highlighting before until Con pointed one very significant setting out: the Airplane mode of the phone. I was only able to show the highlighted routes (and with that my previuosly downloaded routes in Offline mode) after I've turned on Airplane mode. Even with the Nav app in Offline mode, but with 4G enabled, the app itself seems to be still in 'online mode' and therefore does not show the actually downloaded routes as highlighted and the rest greyed out). I usually don't drive in offline mode so I have no experience whether the nav actually works offline, when set in offline mode, but with 4G still enabled. @Con-Hennekens Can you perhaps elaborate on this set of conditions?

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                                      @stefanhummelink To clarify further, can you confirm that the above relates to your using an Android device? Because with my iOS apps, use of offline mode in conjunction with airplane mode results in wall to wall buffering! Just offline mode with mobile data and wifi off works for opening recent routes when in offline mode. That highlighting/greying out doesn’t happen under any circumstances in the iOS version and it would be very, very handy if it did.

                                      Again, I find myself wondering why the difference(s) between iOS and Android versions? I’d be interested and appreciative to see an explanation/justification.

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                                        @stefanhummelink To clarify further, can you confirm that the above relates to your using an Android device? Because with my iOS apps, use of offline mode in conjunction with airplane mode results in wall to wall buffering! Just offline mode with mobile data and wifi off works for opening recent routes when in offline mode. That highlighting/greying out doesn’t happen under any circumstances in the iOS version and it would be very, very handy if it did.

                                        Again, I find myself wondering why the difference(s) between iOS and Android versions? I’d be interested and appreciative to see an explanation/justification.

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                                        I occasionally use MRA Navigation now and then as its generally a back up.
                                        I always have the Zumo XT running as well however, but I have found the Android version to be stable for me with the odd issue now and then.
                                        I only use Shaping points, never Via Points on any of my routes.

                                        Yes, the highlighted and un-highlighted routes are on the Android version only. ( I have an old iPhone 6 Plus without a sim).

                                        Screenshot_20220211-181452_Navigation.jpeg

                                        Clicking on a un-highlighted route gives this pop up.

                                        Screenshot_20220211-181907_Navigation.jpeg

                                        Clicking Ok clears it and I can still select the highlighted routes.

                                        Android Settings.

                                        Screenshot_20220211-182011_Navigation.jpeg

                                        Screenshot_20220211-182243_Navigation.jpeg

                                        Screenshot_20220211-182319_Navigation.jpeg

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                                          @stefanhummelink To clarify further, can you confirm that the above relates to your using an Android device? Because with my iOS apps, use of offline mode in conjunction with airplane mode results in wall to wall buffering! Just offline mode with mobile data and wifi off works for opening recent routes when in offline mode. That highlighting/greying out doesn’t happen under any circumstances in the iOS version and it would be very, very handy if it did.

                                          Again, I find myself wondering why the difference(s) between iOS and Android versions? I’d be interested and appreciative to see an explanation/justification.

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                                          @pad-0 said in MRA Navigation and downloaded maps.:

                                          @stefanhummelink To clarify further, can you confirm that the above relates to your using an Android device?

                                          Yes indeed, I have an Android phone. Oneplus 6.

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