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    RobdH
    wrote 25 days ago last edited by
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    All maps are visible except Here map when opening the app.
    Here map only visible when choosen 3D option
    Is this normal?
    When activating a route, the Here map is visible.!

    BMW R1200GS DOHC
    MRA + Carpuride 702
    Samsung A53 5G
    Cardo Scala Q1 teamset

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      25 days ago

      All maps are visible except Here map when opening the app.
      Here map only visible when choosen 3D option
      Is this normal?
      When activating a route, the Here map is visible.!

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      Con Hennekens
      Alpha tester
      wrote 24 days ago last edited by
      #2

      @RobdH, What you are seeing BEFORE you start a navigation is an online OSM map. You can choose multiple overlays. The real HERE map is only visible after starting a guided navigation.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        24 days ago

        @RobdH, What you are seeing BEFORE you start a navigation is an online OSM map. You can choose multiple overlays. The real HERE map is only visible after starting a guided navigation.

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        RobdH
        wrote 24 days ago last edited by
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        @Con-Hennekens When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)
        if i choose one of the other layers, they are all visible in the screen when starting the app both in standard as well in 3D option.
        Only the Here in standard option is not visible when starting, after i have choosen a route and start the navigation the Here map is visible.
        No difference in light or dark mode.

        BMW R1200GS DOHC
        MRA + Carpuride 702
        Samsung A53 5G
        Cardo Scala Q1 teamset

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          24 days ago

          @Con-Hennekens When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)
          if i choose one of the other layers, they are all visible in the screen when starting the app both in standard as well in 3D option.
          Only the Here in standard option is not visible when starting, after i have choosen a route and start the navigation the Here map is visible.
          No difference in light or dark mode.

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          Peter Zehentreiter
          wrote 23 days ago last edited by
          #4

          @RobdH I discovered yesterday an indentical behavior on a i Phone of a friend of mine.
          Here Maps only worked in 3 D Mode!
          We did not start a route, therefore I can not say whether Here Maps is working then.

          BMW R 1250 GS
          MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
          BMW Connected Ride Cradle
          SPC Universal mount
          Motorola Edge 40
          Sena SLR 3
          Sena 50 R

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            24 days ago

            @RobdH, What you are seeing BEFORE you start a navigation is an online OSM map. You can choose multiple overlays. The real HERE map is only visible after starting a guided navigation.

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            Peter Zehentreiter
            wrote 23 days ago last edited by
            #5

            @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, here is the screenshot of the i phone of my friend when trying to display the Here Maps.IMG-20250514-WA0009.jpg

            When choosing the option 3D the Here Maps will be displayed!

            Any idea what that could be?

            Best regards Peter

            BMW R 1250 GS
            MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
            BMW Connected Ride Cradle
            SPC Universal mount
            Motorola Edge 40
            Sena SLR 3
            Sena 50 R

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              24 days ago

              @Con-Hennekens When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)
              if i choose one of the other layers, they are all visible in the screen when starting the app both in standard as well in 3D option.
              Only the Here in standard option is not visible when starting, after i have choosen a route and start the navigation the Here map is visible.
              No difference in light or dark mode.

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              Con Hennekens
              Alpha tester
              wrote 23 days ago last edited by
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              @RobdH said in Here map not visible in app:

              When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)

              Can you make a screenshot and paste it here?
              Map-styles in Navigation Next mode are selected through the Navigation Settings menu, not by an icon on your map. Therefore I think you are not in navigation mode.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                23 days ago

                @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, here is the screenshot of the i phone of my friend when trying to display the Here Maps.IMG-20250514-WA0009.jpg

                When choosing the option 3D the Here Maps will be displayed!

                Any idea what that could be?

                Best regards Peter

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                Con Hennekens
                Alpha tester
                wrote 23 days ago last edited by
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                @Peter-Zehentreiter, That was quick 😉
                The screenshot shows the OSM map in pre-navigation mode. This is NOT the here map you see when you are using turn-by-turn navigation with instructions. The map is obviously not loading somehow. We have seen multiple similar occasions where this was caused by VPN or privacy blockers. Might that be the culprit for your friend?

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                • undefined Con Hennekens
                  23 days ago

                  @Peter-Zehentreiter, That was quick 😉
                  The screenshot shows the OSM map in pre-navigation mode. This is NOT the here map you see when you are using turn-by-turn navigation with instructions. The map is obviously not loading somehow. We have seen multiple similar occasions where this was caused by VPN or privacy blockers. Might that be the culprit for your friend?

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                  Peter Zehentreiter
                  wrote 23 days ago last edited by
                  #8

                  @Con-Hennekens Hi Con, thanks for prompt reply.
                  We'll check and come back asap.

                  Concerning his settings.....we checked all twice, indentical with my settings.

                  BMW R 1250 GS
                  MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                  BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                  SPC Universal mount
                  Motorola Edge 40
                  Sena SLR 3
                  Sena 50 R

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                    23 days ago

                    @Peter-Zehentreiter, That was quick 😉
                    The screenshot shows the OSM map in pre-navigation mode. This is NOT the here map you see when you are using turn-by-turn navigation with instructions. The map is obviously not loading somehow. We have seen multiple similar occasions where this was caused by VPN or privacy blockers. Might that be the culprit for your friend?

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                    Peter Zehentreiter
                    wrote 23 days ago last edited by Peter Zehentreiter
                    #9

                    @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, no VPN, no Data Blocker, no WiFi, Problem is still existing.
                    Any Idea?

                    BMW R 1250 GS
                    MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                    BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                    SPC Universal mount
                    Motorola Edge 40
                    Sena SLR 3
                    Sena 50 R

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                    • undefined Peter Zehentreiter
                      23 days ago

                      @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, no VPN, no Data Blocker, no WiFi, Problem is still existing.
                      Any Idea?

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                      Con Hennekens
                      Alpha tester
                      wrote 23 days ago last edited by
                      #10

                      @Peter-Zehentreiter, no wifi? Also no cell-data? The OSM map is only available offline. For it to load you need a live internet connection. Also for the overlays to load you need a live internet connection. The fact that a 3d map actually IS visible, could be due to some caching of it from when there actually was a live internet connection.

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      • undefined Peter Zehentreiter
                        23 days ago

                        @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, no VPN, no Data Blocker, no WiFi, Problem is still existing.
                        Any Idea?

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                        Adrian Avram
                        wrote 23 days ago last edited by
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                          23 days ago

                          @RobdH said in Here map not visible in app:

                          When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)

                          Can you make a screenshot and paste it here?
                          Map-styles in Navigation Next mode are selected through the Navigation Settings menu, not by an icon on your map. Therefore I think you are not in navigation mode.

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                          RobdH
                          wrote 23 days ago last edited by
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                          It's similar to what described by @Peter-Zehentreiter
                          It's weird because if i want to ride and not use a route i should be able to see a road i am on at that moment.
                          All other maps choosen are working, with or without navigation started.
                          Not been able to upload screen recording here but i did upload on the dutch GS forum site.

                          BMW R1200GS DOHC
                          MRA + Carpuride 702
                          Samsung A53 5G
                          Cardo Scala Q1 teamset

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                          • undefined Con Hennekens
                            23 days ago

                            @Peter-Zehentreiter, no wifi? Also no cell-data? The OSM map is only available offline. For it to load you need a live internet connection. Also for the overlays to load you need a live internet connection. The fact that a 3d map actually IS visible, could be due to some caching of it from when there actually was a live internet connection.

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                            Peter Zehentreiter
                            wrote 23 days ago last edited by
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                            @Con-Hennekens Sorry, I seem to have misunderstood that.
                            Of course, there's an internet connection via the provider's SIM card.

                            "No WiFi" means, that no company or third-party WiFi is used for the connection.

                            BMW R 1250 GS
                            MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                            BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                            SPC Universal mount
                            Motorola Edge 40
                            Sena SLR 3
                            Sena 50 R

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                              23 days ago

                              It's similar to what described by @Peter-Zehentreiter
                              It's weird because if i want to ride and not use a route i should be able to see a road i am on at that moment.
                              All other maps choosen are working, with or without navigation started.
                              Not been able to upload screen recording here but i did upload on the dutch GS forum site.

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                              Peter Zehentreiter
                              wrote 23 days ago last edited by Peter Zehentreiter
                              #14

                              @RobdH Not been able to upload screen recording here but i did upload on the dutch GS forum site

                              I am also having problems to upload a screenshot with my mobile….but with my Computer is easy to do.

                              BMW R 1250 GS
                              MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                              BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                              SPC Universal mount
                              Motorola Edge 40
                              Sena SLR 3
                              Sena 50 R

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                              • undefined Peter Zehentreiter
                                23 days ago

                                @RobdH Not been able to upload screen recording here but i did upload on the dutch GS forum site

                                I am also having problems to upload a screenshot with my mobile….but with my Computer is easy to do.

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                                Adrian Avram
                                wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                                @Peter-Zehentreiter try reinstalling the app. It will work after that !

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                                  22 days ago

                                  @Peter-Zehentreiter try reinstalling the app. It will work after that !

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                                  Peter Zehentreiter
                                  wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                                  @Adrian-Avram My route App reinstalled, i-Phone switsched off and on, My Route app new installed.

                                  Here Maps is still showing a black screen when Here Maps is selected.
                                  As soon as 3 D option is sected, Here map will be displayed.

                                  When opening a route, Here map is working.

                                  My friend has two i-Phone, one privat, one business, this is happening on both devices.

                                  On my Pixel 9 phone, Here Maps will be displayed.
                                  On my Motorola Edge 40, Here Maps will be displayed.
                                  On my i Phone 7 plus, Here Maps will be displayed
                                  .

                                  I have absolutly now idea why this happens on the app of my friend.

                                  BMW R 1250 GS
                                  MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                  BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                  SPC Universal mount
                                  Motorola Edge 40
                                  Sena SLR 3
                                  Sena 50 R

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                                  • undefined Peter Zehentreiter
                                    22 days ago

                                    @Adrian-Avram My route App reinstalled, i-Phone switsched off and on, My Route app new installed.

                                    Here Maps is still showing a black screen when Here Maps is selected.
                                    As soon as 3 D option is sected, Here map will be displayed.

                                    When opening a route, Here map is working.

                                    My friend has two i-Phone, one privat, one business, this is happening on both devices.

                                    On my Pixel 9 phone, Here Maps will be displayed.
                                    On my Motorola Edge 40, Here Maps will be displayed.
                                    On my i Phone 7 plus, Here Maps will be displayed
                                    .

                                    I have absolutly now idea why this happens on the app of my friend.

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                                    Adrian Avram
                                    wrote 22 days ago last edited by Adrian Avram
                                    #17

                                    @Peter-Zehentreiter ok, i tested this and same is happening on my iphone 13 and on my Samsung S24 Ultra, but i just use the OSM map in 3D.
                                    This doenst affect the usability of the application while navigating.
                                    From my point of view, the main map that should be used are the Here offline maps already downloaded on the phone, not this layouts that require internet to be displayed.

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                                      Con Hennekens
                                      Alpha tester
                                      wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                                      Yes, I can reproduce this. I was thrown off by calling it the HERE map. It is just a visual overlay on the OSM map. But since no navigation is done in that part of the app, the difference is close to nothing 😉 .

                                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                      • undefined Adrian Avram
                                        22 days ago

                                        @Peter-Zehentreiter ok, i tested this and same is happening on my iphone 13 and on my Samsung S24 Ultra, but i just use the OSM map in 3D.
                                        This doenst affect the usability of the application while navigating.
                                        From my point of view, the main map that should be used are the Here offline maps already downloaded on the phone, not this layouts that require internet to be displayed.

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                                        Peter Zehentreiter
                                        wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                                        @Adrian-Avram Hello Adrian, thank you for your efforts and thank you for confirming that the Here map isn't working for you either. Regarding navigation, I agree with you; there are no restrictions. I'm still surprised, though, because it works on all my devices.

                                        BMW R 1250 GS
                                        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                        BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                        SPC Universal mount
                                        Motorola Edge 40
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                                        • undefined Con Hennekens
                                          22 days ago

                                          Yes, I can reproduce this. I was thrown off by calling it the HERE map. It is just a visual overlay on the OSM map. But since no navigation is done in that part of the app, the difference is close to nothing 😉 .

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                                          Peter Zehentreiter
                                          wrote 22 days ago last edited by
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                                          @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, thank you very much for your support and efforts to solve such issues.
                                          Regards
                                          Peter

                                          BMW R 1250 GS
                                          MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                          BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                          SPC Universal mount
                                          Motorola Edge 40
                                          Sena SLR 3
                                          Sena 50 R

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