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Here map not visible in app

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  • RobdHundefined RobdH

    @Con-Hennekens When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)
    if i choose one of the other layers, they are all visible in the screen when starting the app both in standard as well in 3D option.
    Only the Here in standard option is not visible when starting, after i have choosen a route and start the navigation the Here map is visible.
    No difference in light or dark mode.

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    @RobdH I discovered yesterday an indentical behavior on a i Phone of a friend of mine.
    Here Maps only worked in 3 D Mode!
    We did not start a route, therefore I can not say whether Here Maps is working then.

    BMW R 1250 GS
    MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
    BMW Connected Ride Cradle
    SPC Universal mount
    Motorola Edge 40
    Sena SLR 3
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    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

      @RobdH, What you are seeing BEFORE you start a navigation is an online OSM map. You can choose multiple overlays. The real HERE map is only visible after starting a guided navigation.

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      @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, here is the screenshot of the i phone of my friend when trying to display the Here Maps.IMG-20250514-WA0009.jpg

      When choosing the option 3D the Here Maps will be displayed!

      Any idea what that could be?

      Best regards Peter

      BMW R 1250 GS
      MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
      BMW Connected Ride Cradle
      SPC Universal mount
      Motorola Edge 40
      Sena SLR 3
      Sena 50 R

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      • RobdHundefined RobdH

        @Con-Hennekens When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)
        if i choose one of the other layers, they are all visible in the screen when starting the app both in standard as well in 3D option.
        Only the Here in standard option is not visible when starting, after i have choosen a route and start the navigation the Here map is visible.
        No difference in light or dark mode.

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        @RobdH said in Here map not visible in app:

        When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)

        Can you make a screenshot and paste it here?
        Map-styles in Navigation Next mode are selected through the Navigation Settings menu, not by an icon on your map. Therefore I think you are not in navigation mode.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

          @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, here is the screenshot of the i phone of my friend when trying to display the Here Maps.IMG-20250514-WA0009.jpg

          When choosing the option 3D the Here Maps will be displayed!

          Any idea what that could be?

          Best regards Peter

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          wrote last edited by
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          @Peter-Zehentreiter, That was quick 😉
          The screenshot shows the OSM map in pre-navigation mode. This is NOT the here map you see when you are using turn-by-turn navigation with instructions. The map is obviously not loading somehow. We have seen multiple similar occasions where this was caused by VPN or privacy blockers. Might that be the culprit for your friend?

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

            @Peter-Zehentreiter, That was quick 😉
            The screenshot shows the OSM map in pre-navigation mode. This is NOT the here map you see when you are using turn-by-turn navigation with instructions. The map is obviously not loading somehow. We have seen multiple similar occasions where this was caused by VPN or privacy blockers. Might that be the culprit for your friend?

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            @Con-Hennekens Hi Con, thanks for prompt reply.
            We'll check and come back asap.

            Concerning his settings.....we checked all twice, indentical with my settings.

            BMW R 1250 GS
            MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
            BMW Connected Ride Cradle
            SPC Universal mount
            Motorola Edge 40
            Sena SLR 3
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            • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

              @Peter-Zehentreiter, That was quick 😉
              The screenshot shows the OSM map in pre-navigation mode. This is NOT the here map you see when you are using turn-by-turn navigation with instructions. The map is obviously not loading somehow. We have seen multiple similar occasions where this was caused by VPN or privacy blockers. Might that be the culprit for your friend?

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              @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, no VPN, no Data Blocker, no WiFi, Problem is still existing.
              Any Idea?

              BMW R 1250 GS
              MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
              BMW Connected Ride Cradle
              SPC Universal mount
              Motorola Edge 40
              Sena SLR 3
              Sena 50 R

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              • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, no VPN, no Data Blocker, no WiFi, Problem is still existing.
                Any Idea?

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                @Peter-Zehentreiter, no wifi? Also no cell-data? The OSM map is only available offline. For it to load you need a live internet connection. Also for the overlays to load you need a live internet connection. The fact that a 3d map actually IS visible, could be due to some caching of it from when there actually was a live internet connection.

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                  @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, no VPN, no Data Blocker, no WiFi, Problem is still existing.
                  Any Idea?

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @RobdH said in Here map not visible in app:

                    When i open the app in navigation mode i only see the gps position marker, rest of screen is blanc ( except for the icons for map etc)

                    Can you make a screenshot and paste it here?
                    Map-styles in Navigation Next mode are selected through the Navigation Settings menu, not by an icon on your map. Therefore I think you are not in navigation mode.

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                    It's similar to what described by @Peter-Zehentreiter
                    It's weird because if i want to ride and not use a route i should be able to see a road i am on at that moment.
                    All other maps choosen are working, with or without navigation started.
                    Not been able to upload screen recording here but i did upload on the dutch GS forum site.

                    BMW R1200GS DOHC
                    MRA + Carpuride 702
                    Samsung A53 5G
                    Cardo Scala Q1 teamset

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                      @Peter-Zehentreiter, no wifi? Also no cell-data? The OSM map is only available offline. For it to load you need a live internet connection. Also for the overlays to load you need a live internet connection. The fact that a 3d map actually IS visible, could be due to some caching of it from when there actually was a live internet connection.

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                      @Con-Hennekens Sorry, I seem to have misunderstood that.
                      Of course, there's an internet connection via the provider's SIM card.

                      "No WiFi" means, that no company or third-party WiFi is used for the connection.

                      BMW R 1250 GS
                      MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                      BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                      SPC Universal mount
                      Motorola Edge 40
                      Sena SLR 3
                      Sena 50 R

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                      • RobdHundefined RobdH

                        It's similar to what described by @Peter-Zehentreiter
                        It's weird because if i want to ride and not use a route i should be able to see a road i am on at that moment.
                        All other maps choosen are working, with or without navigation started.
                        Not been able to upload screen recording here but i did upload on the dutch GS forum site.

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                        wrote last edited by Peter Zehentreiter
                        #14

                        @RobdH Not been able to upload screen recording here but i did upload on the dutch GS forum site

                        I am also having problems to upload a screenshot with my mobile….but with my Computer is easy to do.

                        BMW R 1250 GS
                        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                        BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                        SPC Universal mount
                        Motorola Edge 40
                        Sena SLR 3
                        Sena 50 R

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                        • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                          @RobdH Not been able to upload screen recording here but i did upload on the dutch GS forum site

                          I am also having problems to upload a screenshot with my mobile….but with my Computer is easy to do.

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                          @Peter-Zehentreiter try reinstalling the app. It will work after that !

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                          • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

                            @Peter-Zehentreiter try reinstalling the app. It will work after that !

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                            @Adrian-Avram My route App reinstalled, i-Phone switsched off and on, My Route app new installed.

                            Here Maps is still showing a black screen when Here Maps is selected.
                            As soon as 3 D option is sected, Here map will be displayed.

                            When opening a route, Here map is working.

                            My friend has two i-Phone, one privat, one business, this is happening on both devices.

                            On my Pixel 9 phone, Here Maps will be displayed.
                            On my Motorola Edge 40, Here Maps will be displayed.
                            On my i Phone 7 plus, Here Maps will be displayed
                            .

                            I have absolutly now idea why this happens on the app of my friend.

                            BMW R 1250 GS
                            MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                            BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                            SPC Universal mount
                            Motorola Edge 40
                            Sena SLR 3
                            Sena 50 R

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                            • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                              @Adrian-Avram My route App reinstalled, i-Phone switsched off and on, My Route app new installed.

                              Here Maps is still showing a black screen when Here Maps is selected.
                              As soon as 3 D option is sected, Here map will be displayed.

                              When opening a route, Here map is working.

                              My friend has two i-Phone, one privat, one business, this is happening on both devices.

                              On my Pixel 9 phone, Here Maps will be displayed.
                              On my Motorola Edge 40, Here Maps will be displayed.
                              On my i Phone 7 plus, Here Maps will be displayed
                              .

                              I have absolutly now idea why this happens on the app of my friend.

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                              wrote last edited by Adrian Avram
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                              @Peter-Zehentreiter ok, i tested this and same is happening on my iphone 13 and on my Samsung S24 Ultra, but i just use the OSM map in 3D.
                              This doenst affect the usability of the application while navigating.
                              From my point of view, the main map that should be used are the Here offline maps already downloaded on the phone, not this layouts that require internet to be displayed.

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                                Yes, I can reproduce this. I was thrown off by calling it the HERE map. It is just a visual overlay on the OSM map. But since no navigation is done in that part of the app, the difference is close to nothing 😉 .

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

                                  @Peter-Zehentreiter ok, i tested this and same is happening on my iphone 13 and on my Samsung S24 Ultra, but i just use the OSM map in 3D.
                                  This doenst affect the usability of the application while navigating.
                                  From my point of view, the main map that should be used are the Here offline maps already downloaded on the phone, not this layouts that require internet to be displayed.

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                                  @Adrian-Avram Hello Adrian, thank you for your efforts and thank you for confirming that the Here map isn't working for you either. Regarding navigation, I agree with you; there are no restrictions. I'm still surprised, though, because it works on all my devices.

                                  BMW R 1250 GS
                                  MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                  BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                  SPC Universal mount
                                  Motorola Edge 40
                                  Sena SLR 3
                                  Sena 50 R

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                                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                    Yes, I can reproduce this. I was thrown off by calling it the HERE map. It is just a visual overlay on the OSM map. But since no navigation is done in that part of the app, the difference is close to nothing 😉 .

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                                    @Con-Hennekens Hello Con, thank you very much for your support and efforts to solve such issues.
                                    Regards
                                    Peter

                                    BMW R 1250 GS
                                    MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                                    BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                                    SPC Universal mount
                                    Motorola Edge 40
                                    Sena SLR 3
                                    Sena 50 R

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                                      This might be solved in the 4.3.9 update.
                                      We've updated the engine used to render these maps. However, as I could not reproduce the issue, I cannot guarantee it 😉

                                      Edit: will be solved in the 4.3.9 update 🙂

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