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  • undefined Adrian Avram
    1 Nov 2024, 18:31

    Hello,
    I was wondering is there a possibility to replace the Here maps with TomTom maps in navigation settings ?
    I am asking this because in TomTom maps i have all the correct roads, but in Here maps there are a lot of roads missing. I am using the TomTom map on the planner, but navigation is running on Here and its messing up my route !
    Route planned on TomTom Maps:
    Screenshot 2024-11-01 202530.png
    Navigation is running Here Maps:
    Screenshot_20241101_202752.png
    And it looks the same if i open the planner with Here maps:
    Screenshot 2024-11-01 202458.png

    So how can we navigate using TomTom maps which, are spot on ?
    Thanks !

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    Rob Verhoeff
    wrote on 1 Nov 2024, 19:25 last edited by Rob Verhoeff 11 Jan 2024, 19:27
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    @Adrian-Avram No, unfortunately, that won't be possible. The entire navigation is based on the Here map. There is no TomTom map layer available as you do have in the planner. The only things you can change during navigation are the color scheme of the map (Vulf, Wong, Dart) and the type of map (Explore, Topographic, etc.).

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      1 Nov 2024, 19:25

      @Adrian-Avram No, unfortunately, that won't be possible. The entire navigation is based on the Here map. There is no TomTom map layer available as you do have in the planner. The only things you can change during navigation are the color scheme of the map (Vulf, Wong, Dart) and the type of map (Explore, Topographic, etc.).

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      Adrian Avram
      wrote on 1 Nov 2024, 19:50 last edited by Adrian Avram 11 Jan 2024, 19:51
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      @Rob-Verhoeff in this case i was better off with TomTom Go, which was very accurate. Here maps have a lot of error in comparison with TomTom. What is the point having TomTom maps for planning, so you can ride the route in the crappy Here maps ? Sorry but I dont see the point ....

      Best regards,
      Adrian

      Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
      MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
      Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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      • undefined Adrian Avram
        1 Nov 2024, 19:50

        @Rob-Verhoeff in this case i was better off with TomTom Go, which was very accurate. Here maps have a lot of error in comparison with TomTom. What is the point having TomTom maps for planning, so you can ride the route in the crappy Here maps ? Sorry but I dont see the point ....

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        Nick Carthew
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        wrote on 1 Nov 2024, 19:54 last edited by
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        @Adrian-Avram The TomTom planning map is there for those that use a TomTom rider sat nav and also the latest BMW sat nav’s.

        Always willing to help if I can.
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        • undefined Adrian Avram
          1 Nov 2024, 19:50

          @Rob-Verhoeff in this case i was better off with TomTom Go, which was very accurate. Here maps have a lot of error in comparison with TomTom. What is the point having TomTom maps for planning, so you can ride the route in the crappy Here maps ? Sorry but I dont see the point ....

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          Rob Verhoeff
          wrote on 1 Nov 2024, 20:13 last edited by
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          @Adrian-Avram said in TomTom Maps in navigation ?:

          What is the point having TomTom maps for planning, so you can ride the route in the crappy Here maps ? Sorry but I dont see the point ....

          The point is: you have a very user-friendly planner. Especially if you have a Gold subscription. Then you can export the route to your TomTom and just drive.

          By the way, for driving a route that you’ve created yourself, I don't find the Here map particularly unpleasant. But well, tastes differ. Otherwise, everyone would have liked Brussels sprouts...

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          • undefined Adrian Avram
            1 Nov 2024, 19:50

            @Rob-Verhoeff in this case i was better off with TomTom Go, which was very accurate. Here maps have a lot of error in comparison with TomTom. What is the point having TomTom maps for planning, so you can ride the route in the crappy Here maps ? Sorry but I dont see the point ....

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            Marinus van Deudekom
            RouteXperts
            wrote on 1 Nov 2024, 20:31 last edited by
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            @Adrian-Avram strange because what I see while planning a route that the TomTom maps usually create problems and I do not agree with your statement of crappy Here maps. Are they perfect no but crappy hmmmmmm

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              Bouke Ent
              wrote on 2 Nov 2024, 12:48 last edited by
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              if you are gold then use function in toolbox to compare with here map. you then see if route made in tt is the same as here.

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              • undefined Bouke Ent
                2 Nov 2024, 12:48

                if you are gold then use function in toolbox to compare with here map. you then see if route made in tt is the same as here.

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                Adrian Avram
                wrote on 2 Nov 2024, 13:39 last edited by
                #8

                @Bouke-Ent hi ! I tried that, and this is just one example where Here is messing thing in comparison with TT. It making me take useless detours ....
                Screenshot 2024-11-02 153723.png

                Best regards,
                Adrian

                Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
                MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                • undefined Adrian Avram
                  1 Nov 2024, 18:31

                  Hello,
                  I was wondering is there a possibility to replace the Here maps with TomTom maps in navigation settings ?
                  I am asking this because in TomTom maps i have all the correct roads, but in Here maps there are a lot of roads missing. I am using the TomTom map on the planner, but navigation is running on Here and its messing up my route !
                  Route planned on TomTom Maps:
                  Screenshot 2024-11-01 202530.png
                  Navigation is running Here Maps:
                  Screenshot_20241101_202752.png
                  And it looks the same if i open the planner with Here maps:
                  Screenshot 2024-11-01 202458.png

                  So how can we navigate using TomTom maps which, are spot on ?
                  Thanks !

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                  Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                  Instructor RouteXperts
                  wrote on 3 Nov 2024, 06:15 last edited by
                  #9

                  @Adrian-Avram

                  That is because the viapoints are are not placed correctly, point 2 is on the wrong lane

                  Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                  Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                  • undefined Adrian Avram
                    2 Nov 2024, 13:39

                    @Bouke-Ent hi ! I tried that, and this is just one example where Here is messing thing in comparison with TT. It making me take useless detours ....
                    Screenshot 2024-11-02 153723.png

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                    Con Hennekens
                    wrote on 3 Nov 2024, 13:40 last edited by
                    #10

                    @Adrian-Avram said in TomTom Maps in navigation ?:

                    I tried that, and this is just one example where Here is messing thing in comparison with TT. It making me take useless detours ....

                    That's because you are using the wrong map for MRA Navigation.

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                    • undefined Con Hennekens
                      3 Nov 2024, 13:40

                      @Adrian-Avram said in TomTom Maps in navigation ?:

                      I tried that, and this is just one example where Here is messing thing in comparison with TT. It making me take useless detours ....

                      That's because you are using the wrong map for MRA Navigation.

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                      Adrian Avram
                      wrote on 3 Nov 2024, 14:28 last edited by
                      #11

                      @Con-Hennekens MRA Navigation has only one map ! The Here map with different color schemes, and that is it unfortunately ...

                      Best regards,
                      Adrian

                      Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
                      MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                      Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                      • undefined Adrian Avram
                        2 Nov 2024, 13:39

                        @Bouke-Ent hi ! I tried that, and this is just one example where Here is messing thing in comparison with TT. It making me take useless detours ....
                        Screenshot 2024-11-02 153723.png

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                        Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                        Instructor RouteXperts
                        wrote on 3 Nov 2024, 15:08 last edited by
                        #12

                        @Adrian-Avram

                        Please share the url of the route, make sure it is set public

                        Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                        Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                        • undefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                          3 Nov 2024, 15:08

                          @Adrian-Avram

                          Please share the url of the route, make sure it is set public

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                          Adrian Avram
                          wrote on 3 Nov 2024, 16:29 last edited by
                          #13

                          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10202897?mode=share
                          Thanks !Screenshot 2024-11-03 171558.png

                          Best regards,
                          Adrian

                          Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
                          MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                          Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                          • undefined Adrian Avram
                            3 Nov 2024, 16:29

                            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10202897?mode=share
                            Thanks !Screenshot 2024-11-03 171558.png

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                            Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                            Instructor RouteXperts
                            wrote on 3 Nov 2024, 17:41 last edited by
                            #14

                            @Adrian-Avram

                            Place point 2 after the roundabout

                            Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                            Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                            • undefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                              3 Nov 2024, 17:41

                              @Adrian-Avram

                              Place point 2 after the roundabout

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                              Adrian Avram
                              wrote on 3 Nov 2024, 17:47 last edited by
                              #15

                              @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA done that, still the same issue with Here maps. I think there is a map issue, but how and where can i report it to Here Maps ?
                              https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10202897?mode=share
                              Screenshot.png

                              Best regards,
                              Adrian

                              Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
                              MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                              Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                              • undefined Adrian Avram
                                3 Nov 2024, 17:47

                                @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA done that, still the same issue with Here maps. I think there is a map issue, but how and where can i report it to Here Maps ?
                                https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10202897?mode=share
                                Screenshot.png

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                                Instructor RouteXperts
                                wrote on 3 Nov 2024, 18:43 last edited by
                                #16

                                @Adrian-Avram

                                https://mapfeedback.here.com/#/report

                                Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                                Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                                • undefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                                  3 Nov 2024, 18:43

                                  @Adrian-Avram

                                  https://mapfeedback.here.com/#/report

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                                  Adrian Avram
                                  wrote on 3 Nov 2024, 18:58 last edited by
                                  #17

                                  @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA Problem has been addressed. Waiting for Here to update the maps accordingly.
                                  I think we can close this issue. Thank you for your support !

                                  Screenshot 2024-11-03 205632.png

                                  Best regards,
                                  Adrian

                                  Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
                                  MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                                  Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                                  • undefined Adrian Avram
                                    3 Nov 2024, 17:47

                                    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA done that, still the same issue with Here maps. I think there is a map issue, but how and where can i report it to Here Maps ?
                                    https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10202897?mode=share
                                    Screenshot.png

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                                    richard 3v
                                    wrote on 3 Nov 2024, 19:01 last edited by
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                                    @Adrian-Avram said in TomTom Maps in navigation ?:

                                    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA done that, still the same issue with Here maps. I think there is a map issue, but how and where can i report it to Here Maps ?
                                    https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10202897?mode=share
                                    Screenshot.png

                                    Is this what you are trying to acheive ?
                                    I moved point 2 and deleted point 3.

                                    https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10203650?mode=share

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                                      TomOnTour
                                      wrote on 3 Nov 2024, 19:28 last edited by
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                                      Hi @Adrian-Avram,

                                      my personal experience is exactly the other way round: I have seen much more errors an issues when I was using TomTom maps and was and be happy with the HERE maps now 🙂

                                      I personally came to the final conclusion, that there is no general better map material: They all have their strengths and weaknesses.

                                      Greetings
                                      Thomas

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                                      • undefined richard 3v
                                        3 Nov 2024, 19:01

                                        @Adrian-Avram said in TomTom Maps in navigation ?:

                                        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR-MRA done that, still the same issue with Here maps. I think there is a map issue, but how and where can i report it to Here Maps ?
                                        https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10202897?mode=share
                                        Screenshot.png

                                        Is this what you are trying to acheive ?
                                        I moved point 2 and deleted point 3.

                                        https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/social/route/10203650?mode=share

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                                        wrote on 3 Nov 2024, 20:14 last edited by Adrian Avram 11 Mar 2024, 20:22
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                                        @richard-3v nope, your route still takes me in the wrong direction, and then back to the waypoints. This is how my route is supposed to look like (plotted with TomTom map)
                                        The issue is with the map (Here map), i have reported the road section to be modified as highway on ramp and one-way lane.

                                        Screenshot 2024-11-03 212019.png

                                        Here is the problem (Here as in the location :))))
                                        2024-11-03_21h34_46.png

                                        Best regards,
                                        Adrian

                                        Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
                                        MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
                                        Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                                        • undefined Adrian Avram
                                          3 Nov 2024, 14:28

                                          @Con-Hennekens MRA Navigation has only one map ! The Here map with different color schemes, and that is it unfortunately ...

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                                          wrote on 4 Nov 2024, 10:23 last edited by
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                                          @Adrian-Avram said in TomTom Maps in navigation ?:

                                          MRA Navigation has only one map !

                                          Yes, how many maps does your TomTom or Zumo offer?
                                          You are using the wrong MRA planner map, for use with MRA Navigation, maybe that's clearer.

                                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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