Route Sync and General Comments
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@Nick-Hodge, I don't mean no disrespect, just checking... Did you download all needed maps for offline use? It is normal that, when in online mode, offline mode is asked for and vice versa, but when switching to offline mode and all maps present, your route should be able to calculate. That is: when it is no track you are trying to navigate. Tracks can only be calculated online (HERE limitation). Keep in mind that "routes" you make through curvy options or roundtrip generator are factually tracks, not routes.
@Con-Hennekens you make interesting comment and no, I made no separate effort to download the offline maps as I (maybe wrongly) thought the sync had done away the need to download the maps as that was cumbersome as there was no clue what map was being used. Connected app only needs to have the route opened and if you don’t have the map(s) needed for the route to run offline it tells you which you need and downloads it/them.
These were routes, not tracks BTW. Are we saying we do still need to download the maps needed for offline?
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@Con-Hennekens you make interesting comment and no, I made no separate effort to download the offline maps as I (maybe wrongly) thought the sync had done away the need to download the maps as that was cumbersome as there was no clue what map was being used. Connected app only needs to have the route opened and if you don’t have the map(s) needed for the route to run offline it tells you which you need and downloads it/them.
These were routes, not tracks BTW. Are we saying we do still need to download the maps needed for offline?
@Nick-Hodge yes Nick you must download the map. Advantage is also that the navigation Goes faster
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Indeed, downloading offline maps is definitely a requirement!
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Indeed, downloading offline maps is definitely a requirement!
@Corjan-Meijerink said in Route Sync and General Comments:
Indeed, downloading offline maps is definitely a requirement!
Hi, why not to add an automatic download opportunity for maps? Based on existing routes available? I would use it....
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@Con-Hennekens you make interesting comment and no, I made no separate effort to download the offline maps as I (maybe wrongly) thought the sync had done away the need to download the maps as that was cumbersome as there was no clue what map was being used. Connected app only needs to have the route opened and if you don’t have the map(s) needed for the route to run offline it tells you which you need and downloads it/them.
These were routes, not tracks BTW. Are we saying we do still need to download the maps needed for offline?
@Nick-Hodge said in Route Sync and General Comments:
Connected app only needs to have the route opened and if you don’t have the map(s) needed for the route to run offline it tells you which you need and downloads it/them.
This is an interesting idea
I think it would be possible when starting a route, to automatically check if all needed maps are already available offline, and get a warning, or invitation to download them. On the other side, most users have a habit of navigating in their own and their surrounding countries / states, and have no real need for this automatic check. You could post it in the suggestions category -
Indeed, downloading offline maps is definitely a requirement!
@Corjan-Meijerink ok I misunderstood. I think it’s essential that some guidance is given of map(s) needed (as the connected app). I have no idea what region/district/oblast without research I’m travelling in and maps are large if a phone has restricted memory
Thanks for clarity though
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@Corjan-Meijerink ok I misunderstood. I think it’s essential that some guidance is given of map(s) needed (as the connected app). I have no idea what region/district/oblast without research I’m travelling in and maps are large if a phone has restricted memory
Thanks for clarity though
@Nick-Hodge said in Route Sync and General Comments:
@Corjan-Meijerink ok I misunderstood. I think it’s essential that some guidance is given of map(s) needed (as the connected app). I have no idea what region/district/oblast without research I’m travelling in and maps are large if a phone has restricted memory
Thanks for clarity though
Nick
in your first report your wrote „ I travelled 4000 km through Europe“
Now you wrote „I have no idea in what region I am travelling.“Sorry this is unbeleavable
Clear complete EU maps are 18 GB but for those 4000 km and region of countries you will be knowing before you start you need perhaps 3-4 GB for maps. When you travel from GB to the Alps you do not need Sweden, Spain, Poland,
At every time you can delete and install countries as needed if the memory on the phone is too small, which could happen as far as i know only on iPhones not able to add memory cards and her older version with 64 GB or less in memory space.Peter
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@Nick-Hodge said in Route Sync and General Comments:
@Corjan-Meijerink ok I misunderstood. I think it’s essential that some guidance is given of map(s) needed (as the connected app). I have no idea what region/district/oblast without research I’m travelling in and maps are large if a phone has restricted memory
Thanks for clarity though
Nick
in your first report your wrote „ I travelled 4000 km through Europe“
Now you wrote „I have no idea in what region I am travelling.“Sorry this is unbeleavable
Clear complete EU maps are 18 GB but for those 4000 km and region of countries you will be knowing before you start you need perhaps 3-4 GB for maps. When you travel from GB to the Alps you do not need Sweden, Spain, Poland,
At every time you can delete and install countries as needed if the memory on the phone is too small, which could happen as far as i know only on iPhones not able to add memory cards and her older version with 64 GB or less in memory space.@Peter-Schiefer My point Peter, was for example, France and Germany are large maps (4Gb on a 16Gb phone is a lot) broken into regions. I have no idea if I am in Rhineland-Westphalia, etc, etc. I know I'm in Germany, maybe Germany North West. My point is and I am a software developer, you shouldn't need to research getting from A-B by using other tools to identify the area you are in. I know where Rutland is in the UK, you may not). Opening the route on BMW's Connected App and it tells you exactly what you will need. No such think on MRA.
NOTE: This doesn't affect me personally now my understanding of offline/sync is clarified and I have a phone with 512Gb of space, BUT, we are trying to build a go-to, simple and accurate tool. Hence my further request.
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@Peter-Schiefer My point Peter, was for example, France and Germany are large maps (4Gb on a 16Gb phone is a lot) broken into regions. I have no idea if I am in Rhineland-Westphalia, etc, etc. I know I'm in Germany, maybe Germany North West. My point is and I am a software developer, you shouldn't need to research getting from A-B by using other tools to identify the area you are in. I know where Rutland is in the UK, you may not). Opening the route on BMW's Connected App and it tells you exactly what you will need. No such think on MRA.
NOTE: This doesn't affect me personally now my understanding of offline/sync is clarified and I have a phone with 512Gb of space, BUT, we are trying to build a go-to, simple and accurate tool. Hence my further request.
@Nick-Hodge
Nick, fun fact, I travel through west Europe about 50 years and I have bit a knowlogde of this geographie and the postion of the main cieties, but at all I was not so familar with the location of main cities in UK before I was traveling for business there.
Anf regard to I know where Rutland is, no I don‘t know.But I must repeat and this makes me a bit speachless. When I travel from UK to the Alps Italy, France Switzerland I collect informations regard the maps I need, the expected route I like to use and areas. So regard to the Bundesländer of Germany. You wrote „I do not know wher Northrine westfalia (NRW is the abbreviation) is“. But you have an idea with the overall map of Germany that you from London to the Munich not travel via Berlin, if there is no need but you pass for sample Cologne (my Hometown). Google Cologne and you will see that Cologne is NRW, you see you pass Frankfurt and you find Frankfurt is located in Hessen, you see Nürnberg and Munich and this is Bavaria, you do not need Saarland, Thüringen, Sachsen. Sorry a bit of work upfront is necessary for such a big trip.
Sometimes by some comments I ask myself, how did we survive in the past without Sat Navs. -
@Peter-Schiefer My point Peter, was for example, France and Germany are large maps (4Gb on a 16Gb phone is a lot) broken into regions. I have no idea if I am in Rhineland-Westphalia, etc, etc. I know I'm in Germany, maybe Germany North West. My point is and I am a software developer, you shouldn't need to research getting from A-B by using other tools to identify the area you are in. I know where Rutland is in the UK, you may not). Opening the route on BMW's Connected App and it tells you exactly what you will need. No such think on MRA.
NOTE: This doesn't affect me personally now my understanding of offline/sync is clarified and I have a phone with 512Gb of space, BUT, we are trying to build a go-to, simple and accurate tool. Hence my further request.
@Nick-Hodge I agree, some help with downloading needed maps would be very nice, for example I don't know what "Basilicata" means in Italy and if I need it or not. Maybe some graphical presentaion would be possible, on the map. Or, as you suggested, a message by MRA "Your route needs some additional maps, do you want to download it?"
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@Nick-Hodge I agree, some help with downloading needed maps would be very nice, for example I don't know what "Basilicata" means in Italy and if I need it or not. Maybe some graphical presentaion would be possible, on the map. Or, as you suggested, a message by MRA "Your route needs some additional maps, do you want to download it?"
Bailikata, surprising me too is not the Vaticano.
But as mentioned before, You can google Basilicata and find that this is the area of the foot sole of the Italian boot. I get now a bit more informed too. You always will learning.Peter
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Bailikata, surprising me too is not the Vaticano.
But as mentioned before, You can google Basilicata and find that this is the area of the foot sole of the Italian boot. I get now a bit more informed too. You always will learning.@Peter-Schiefer For me that are problems very low priority, it could be an improvement but of course we can also improve our knowledge
