Map says it is using HERE, even if set to TomTom?
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Why do maps appear to be HERE maps, even though I've selected TomTom to be used?
(HERE logo bottom right...) -
@Eugene7 because the navigation module uses the Here-map!
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@Eugene7
answer is simple.
Here is the routing engine and map which the Navigation next app is used only.
TT you can only use in the planning tool and is recommend, if you use a TOMTOM navsat and like to transfer the route on this device with no perhaps possible diversitiy by the calculation engine of TT -
That is seriously not good, and not at all how the options appear to be defined when paying for Gold access...
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@Eugene7 It looks like you do not understand the philosophy of MRA?
Here is the main map for planing and navigation. The TomTom map is mainly for TomTom Rider user and for comparing a route map with Here.
So why is this not good and why are your thumbs down? -
@Eugene7 said in Map says it is using HERE, even if set to TomTom?:
That is seriously not good, and not at all how the options appear to be defined when paying for Gold access...
Learn how to use MRA please. The planning maps and overlay maps are to be found here.
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@Eugene7 said in Map says it is using HERE, even if set to TomTom?:
That is seriously not good
And why would that be so? If you're gold you can use the compare option to plan in TomTom and make the route identical to HERE so no issues using Navi Next...
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@Eugene7 said in Map says it is using HERE, even if set to TomTom?:
That is seriously not good, and not at all how the options appear to be defined when paying for Gold access...
MRA is clearly not Sygic! If you want Sygic-tools? Then stick with Sygic.
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@Eugene7 said in Map says it is using HERE, even if set to TomTom?:
That is seriously not good,
I am sorry, but this is a big laugh...
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We do not use MyRoute for route planning, as we use TYRE, due the the options and capabilities it provides.
We use TomTom maps for that, and expected to be able to use TomTom for the actual SatNav, based on the way the Gold option was promoted.
Hence the thumbs down.
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@Eugene7, Gold is NOT a subscription for the Navigation app, it is for the planner app. It is all perfectly readable on the website and in the shop. You just misunderstood.
Why buy a GOLD planner subscription at all if you are so fond of a so obsolete program like tyre?
Why not give the MRA planner a chance, so you can use the Navigation app the way it is intended?
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Quite simply because that is not how the information was presented...
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@Eugene7, Honestly, I think that this page:
https://www.myrouteapp.com/shop
Explains it perfectly, especially after clicking the compare link.But of course it is a lot more convenient to blame someone else for your mistakes.
If you really feel the page is misinformative, please elaborate and maybe it will be changed. You know, no one at MRA is trying to trick someone into a buy with unsatisfied customers as a result. MRA is just not a company like that.
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Back when the purchase was made, things were a lot different...
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Those same schematics have been there for multiple years. Only thing that changed long ago was that with a Navigation subscription you also get the HERE map in the basic web planner.
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Con, I just checked the promotion page, and sorry a bit I can understand eugenes position.
For the planer options you explain clear what you get, from basic to gold. In Gold is the offer to get Here Maps TT Maps and so on
For the MRA Navigation next you explain the advantages up to CarPlay and Android auto. But you did not tell
Eg.
Use the most common database in the automotive industriy by HERE.Thinking simple like Eugene you could assume, what you tell at the planer options with HERE and TT maps is possible in the navigation tool too.
As I mentioned, from my previous Job as QM visiting hundreds of suppliers, what I have seen there and the experience from there.
„ you always have to try to think the stupidest thing that comes to mind“
Sample: I was expert in special process heattreatment, may you know what this is, e.g hardening of steel.
In Romania I saw that employees began the stop an oil fire with water fire extinguisher.
Also, route causes of failure modes were often so simple that you could not believe „how is this possible“Another sample,which I used at my suppliers to think about working instructions, which were often with missing things from expert view and as auditor according QM standards.
The waterlanding after bird strike in the Hudson River by Cpt. Sullenberger and his crew.
The airbus sanks very quickly, thanks, after alle passengers were rescued. But for this was a reason detected afterwards.
The emergency instruction for waterlanding contains at the last operation „inflate additional sealing at any underbody doors“. Something like that. But the developers of these instructions did never think about the situation, that a water ditching could happen after 50 seconds. For them, a fuel or engine problem at flight hight is a cause to ditch somewhere on the oceans, have time enough to prepare the emergency situation according list on time.God beware, I am not perfect too, but may you understand, what I will say and like to open eyes for unexpected expectations.
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@Eugene7 said in Map says it is using HERE, even if set to TomTom?:
Back when the purchase was made, things were a lot different...
Eugen,
you always write about tyre which is as seen now tyre2 and the advantages.
Tyre is a planner founded for users of TT satnav to plan routes and this ais their soul I believe up to date.
Yo must consider that TT was founded in 1991 with the nam Palmtop as developer for software for the little Palm PDAs, in addition then for Win CE PDAs as competitor to Palm. In 2001 now named TomTom the compay developed the first mobile Navigation tool for cars.
HERE was in the beginning Navteq founded 1985 in US, details you can read in Wikipedia, it is too much for here.
See TOM TOM navigation, Navteq and HERE, for each is an article there.
At the end both are today competitors for digital database for geografical maps, meanwhile im competition to OSM and some other developers.
Over the last twenty years I use navigation TT and Navteq was in a often controvers discussion in navigation forums like Pocketnavigation who presents the better database and is quicker in updates and actuality. A reason by the way including the costs for updates that OSM was founded. This is gone meanwhile.
Beside more by hobby some Computer Nerds began to develop for the two databases routeplaner for special groups, often for bike roders and today you will find a lot such tools.They have difference and advantages and YOU must inform yourself what is best for you.
A circumstance now I can not follow, is to plan routes with tyre specialized for TT PNA Satnav and than use by import an App like MRA for navigation on phones or tablets which is an option for the MRA planer and harmonised for this. -
Here is (possibly) a clearer explanation:
Web-based planner:
- plan in HERE, TomTom or OSM
- compare the 2 / 3 route variants so you can check & adjust waypoints so they exactly match
- export to GPX for any device your group uses, knowing they will get the 'same' route
MRA Next app:
- replacement for a dedicated satnav
- navigates using HERE only
That's the meat of it.
Everything else is fluff - useful fluff, of course.
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@richtea999 that, right there!
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I really don't care about what we actually purchased, vs. what we now have.
That's past history - I explain only to hopefully help other understand my specific questions.What we are looking for, as a group that do a lot of detailed route touring, is to provide feedback that hopefully may help improve MyRoute, specifically for the application we have.
We do multiple tours, with a couple 100 miles per day, over extended periods, and plan very intricate routes.
We only post bugs, or ask for new features, that directly affect us and how we use SatNavs.
We use the best tools for any specific application - be that planning routes, or for actual driving. Having operational compatibility, without having to jump through unnecessary hoops, is kinds key, especially with the complex routes we generate.
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