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  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Online
    Corjan Meijerinkundefined Online
    Corjan Meijerink
    administrator
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    Hi all! 🙂

    After the 4.1.0 release, the improvements to Android Auto and CarPlay were greatly appreciated and above all noticeable! 🎉

    Obviously there were still some issues present and new issues were also revealed. This beta is now being released to get feedback on the following subjects.

    Supporting older Android devices
    Despite Google not supporting Android 9 anymore since 2022, quite some users still use these devices as their "throwaway" mounted navigation phone. We are curious to see how this beta version performs on older Android phones.

    Map loading issues
    Across Android and iOS users reported the app showing a blank map. Both in the home screen and in the navigation module. Please let us know if / when / how much that occurs in this version.

    Automatic waypoint skipping
    Due to an undocumented change in software we use, waypoints were quite often accidentally skipped. This also happed for viapoints 😮 and therefore unacceptable. In this beta, we've fixed the accidental skipping of any waypoint and while working on the subject the existing auto skip algorithm has also been improved.

    As always, thanks so much for your feedback on the app ❤

    Cheers,
    Team MRA

    Stefan Hummelinkundefined RetiredWingManundefined Marinus van Deudekomundefined 3 Replies Last reply
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    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

      Hi all! 🙂

      After the 4.1.0 release, the improvements to Android Auto and CarPlay were greatly appreciated and above all noticeable! 🎉

      Obviously there were still some issues present and new issues were also revealed. This beta is now being released to get feedback on the following subjects.

      Supporting older Android devices
      Despite Google not supporting Android 9 anymore since 2022, quite some users still use these devices as their "throwaway" mounted navigation phone. We are curious to see how this beta version performs on older Android phones.

      Map loading issues
      Across Android and iOS users reported the app showing a blank map. Both in the home screen and in the navigation module. Please let us know if / when / how much that occurs in this version.

      Automatic waypoint skipping
      Due to an undocumented change in software we use, waypoints were quite often accidentally skipped. This also happed for viapoints 😮 and therefore unacceptable. In this beta, we've fixed the accidental skipping of any waypoint and while working on the subject the existing auto skip algorithm has also been improved.

      As always, thanks so much for your feedback on the app ❤

      Cheers,
      Team MRA

      Stefan Hummelinkundefined Offline
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      wrote on last edited by Stefan Hummelink
      #2

      @Corjan-Meijerink Again, splendid work performed by the engineering team of MRA! 😄 Can't wait to test the new beta :).

      Manks bu'j te bange.

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      • Lynchy67undefined Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        @Peter-Schiefer

        Patience is the word, particularly if you are on Android.

        You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Online
          Corjan Meijerinkundefined Online
          Corjan Meijerink
          administrator
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          I forgot the default note “available within a few hours / the next day” 🙂

          Thought this was general beta knowledge by now! 😉

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          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

            I forgot the default note “available within a few hours / the next day” 🙂

            Thought this was general beta knowledge by now! 😉

            Lynchy67undefined Offline
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            Lynchy67
            wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
            #5

            @Corjan-Meijerink

            Android update now available.
            4.1.1 - 294

            You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

              I forgot the default note “available within a few hours / the next day” 🙂

              Thought this was general beta knowledge by now! 😉

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              Jan Weerheim
              wrote on last edited by Jan Weerheim
              #6

              @Corjan-Meijerink Hallo Corjan bedankt voor al je werk voor deze update 294. Helaas dit zijn na deze update mijn ervaringen.
              Wit scherm op Samsung S7 android versie 8, wit scherm op Samsung S6 android 7, niet alleen bij update maar ook na schone installatie.
              De icons, snelheid richting etc, zijn nu wel zichtbaar.
              Jammer dat ik je dit weer moet berichten, ik weet hoeveel werk jullie er in steken. Ik hoop dat jullie nog een oplossing bedenken want ik ben vast niet de enige die z 'n oudere samsung gebruikt als navigatie toestel. Veel succes en houd moed! 😉

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              • richtea999undefined Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Minor bug:
                Samsung running Android 14
                Android v4.1.1 - 294

                • Open app and default OSM map shows on 'home' page.
                • minimise MRA, and then open another app
                • go back to MRA
                • map is no longer there

                Closing MRA with the back button (i.e. closing it 'properly') solves the problem.

                A bit fo an an obscure bug, but it might point to some other problem, or help out.

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                • richtea999undefined richtea999

                  Minor bug:
                  Samsung running Android 14
                  Android v4.1.1 - 294

                  • Open app and default OSM map shows on 'home' page.
                  • minimise MRA, and then open another app
                  • go back to MRA
                  • map is no longer there

                  Closing MRA with the back button (i.e. closing it 'properly') solves the problem.

                  A bit fo an an obscure bug, but it might point to some other problem, or help out.

                  Christian Schrenkundefined Offline
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                  Christian Schrenk
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @corjan

                  a bit of a stupid question...
                  Will there also be an update for the “normal app” in this regard? Unfortunately I don't have the "beta"....

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                  • Nick Carthewundefined Offline
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                    Nick Carthew
                    RouteXperts Instructor
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    iOS updated automatically via TestFlight 👍

                    Always willing to help if I can.
                    Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                    MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                    Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                    Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                    TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                    • Christian Schrenkundefined Christian Schrenk

                      @corjan

                      a bit of a stupid question...
                      Will there also be an update for the “normal app” in this regard? Unfortunately I don't have the "beta"....

                      Nick Carthewundefined Offline
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                      Nick Carthew
                      RouteXperts Instructor
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      @Christian-Schrenk If the update is successful in beta it will then be released for all users.

                      Always willing to help if I can.
                      Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                      MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                      Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                      Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                      TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                      • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                        @Christian-Schrenk If the update is successful in beta it will then be released for all users.

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                        Christian Schrenk
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @Nick-Carthew

                        @Nick-Carthew
                        Okay, thank you for the quick answer! Since I've had no problems with MRA so far and am just a normal user, I've never really thought about the beta.
                        Well then I hope that the card problem can be solved. As a precaution, I have already found out about new outdoor phones. It would be nice if I could save myself having to buy two new devices.
                        😅

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                        • Rob Verhoeffundefined Offline
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                          Rob Verhoeff
                          wrote on last edited by Rob Verhoeff
                          #12

                          @Peter-Schiefer said in New beta v4.1.1 (294):

                          Gibt es überhaupt eine normal Version?

                          Sure, in iOS, you delete the Testflight version. After that, you go to the App Store and download the public version. For Android, the procedure is a bit more complicated, I believe.

                          BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                          iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                          Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
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                          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                            Hi all! 🙂

                            After the 4.1.0 release, the improvements to Android Auto and CarPlay were greatly appreciated and above all noticeable! 🎉

                            Obviously there were still some issues present and new issues were also revealed. This beta is now being released to get feedback on the following subjects.

                            Supporting older Android devices
                            Despite Google not supporting Android 9 anymore since 2022, quite some users still use these devices as their "throwaway" mounted navigation phone. We are curious to see how this beta version performs on older Android phones.

                            Map loading issues
                            Across Android and iOS users reported the app showing a blank map. Both in the home screen and in the navigation module. Please let us know if / when / how much that occurs in this version.

                            Automatic waypoint skipping
                            Due to an undocumented change in software we use, waypoints were quite often accidentally skipped. This also happed for viapoints 😮 and therefore unacceptable. In this beta, we've fixed the accidental skipping of any waypoint and while working on the subject the existing auto skip algorithm has also been improved.

                            As always, thanks so much for your feedback on the app ❤

                            Cheers,
                            Team MRA

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Corjan-Meijerink my Android S7 Android v 8 still does not show any maps.

                            2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              Hola @Corjan-Meijerink.
                              Lamentablemente en mi samsung tab active 2 (Android 9) sigue sin aparecer el mapa.
                              Se podria volver a version posterior?
                              Gracias

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                              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                Hi all! 🙂

                                After the 4.1.0 release, the improvements to Android Auto and CarPlay were greatly appreciated and above all noticeable! 🎉

                                Obviously there were still some issues present and new issues were also revealed. This beta is now being released to get feedback on the following subjects.

                                Supporting older Android devices
                                Despite Google not supporting Android 9 anymore since 2022, quite some users still use these devices as their "throwaway" mounted navigation phone. We are curious to see how this beta version performs on older Android phones.

                                Map loading issues
                                Across Android and iOS users reported the app showing a blank map. Both in the home screen and in the navigation module. Please let us know if / when / how much that occurs in this version.

                                Automatic waypoint skipping
                                Due to an undocumented change in software we use, waypoints were quite often accidentally skipped. This also happed for viapoints 😮 and therefore unacceptable. In this beta, we've fixed the accidental skipping of any waypoint and while working on the subject the existing auto skip algorithm has also been improved.

                                As always, thanks so much for your feedback on the app ❤

                                Cheers,
                                Team MRA

                                Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
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                                Marinus van Deudekom
                                RouteXperts
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                @Corjan-Meijerink hi Corjan. Yesterday another testing day with thé 294. It was installed automaticly during the night-club on my Android.
                                Wonderfull day no real problems what so ever. Stopped the app during the stops and it came back just as aspected. Just to be shure , it is testing, stopped the app and loaded the route again. Then skipped all the shaping points I’ve passed and continued the trip.
                                2 things still need Some attention
                                On thé way home the battery of my phone gave up. The wireless charging of my quadlock just couldn’t keep up. I know that’s due to the Here maps but it would be mighty fine if the problem was fixed
                                The other thing is the fuel stations. I have no clue how this works. None of the stations on the route were indicated. The ones indicated weren’t on or near the route. How should it work.
                                Keep up the good work team BRAVO

                                Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                                Honda Silverwing GL 650
                                DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                                Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                                Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                                  M. Schrijver
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                                  #16

                                  Gistermorgen versie 4.11 geopend en een route gestart. Het viel mij op dat de navigatie aanwijzingen erg luid waren vergeleken met de oudere versies. Raar!!!!
                                  Totdat ik de volume knop van de motor gebruikte. Wat stond er in mijn scherm: "Navigatie Volume". Ik helemaal blij aangezien dit niet in de wijzigingen vermeld stond. EINDELIJK!!!!

                                  Helaas toch ook weer niet.
                                  Zo lang als MRA de enige bron van geluid is van mijn Goldwing mediaunit. Heb ik netjes de aanwijzigen via het navigatie kanaal.
                                  Maar.....
                                  Zodra er een bron bij komt, wat eigenlijk altijd iets van muziek is, schakelt MRA direct om naar media kanaal. Er zit dus al iets in MRA om het navigatie kanaal aan te sturen maar het is nog niet goed geschreven.

                                  Toch nog een puntje van kritiek over versie 4.11.
                                  Tijdens mijn rit had ik op een gegeven moment een tijdje dat het zoomniveau constant in en uit klapperde. Stukje uitzoomen en weer terug naar het normale zoomniveau. Laten we zeggen van 5 kilometer terug naar 300 meter en weer terug. Tegelijkertijd wisselde het icoontje van huidige snelheid tussen een snelheid en 2 horizontale streepjes. Ook kwam de donkerblauwe routelijn constant van verder vooruit terug kruipen naar de huidige positie.
                                  Je zou dus denken dat er er geen duidelijk GPS signaal was, maar dat was niet het geval. De navigatie aanwijzingen klopten wel gewoon. De routepijl bleef ook gewoon vloeiend bewegen. Na ongeveer 10 minuten zo aan het stuiteren te zijn geweest, crashte de app. De app opnieuw gestart en alles werkte weer normaal.
                                  Dit alles was voor mij zichtbaar op Android Auto. Telefoonscherm weet ik niet.

                                  (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                    Hans Hüppi
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                                    #17

                                    Phone: Samsung S21 Ultra
                                    Android Auto display: Chigee AIO-5 Lite
                                    Headset: Interphone UCOM16
                                    Bike: R1250GSA

                                    At Easter I build a Chigee AIO-5 Lite display with CarPlay/Android Auto on my R1250GSA. And since the MyRouteApp support now Android Auto this seems a perfect solution for me. I tested it today with V4.1.1-294 on a ride. It’s my first serious ride with Android Auto, before I had a quadlock with my mobile in vertical position in front of me. I faced several issues today:

                                    • In Android Auto the surrounding streets not on the route are much less good visible. On the phone I get a good impression on what is coming next, in Android Auto these roads are not so well visible. My map settings are zoom ++ and angle ++. On the photos the display does not look bright, but it is in real. I had to take a photo on a low angle otherwise the display is like a mirror for the camera.

                                    • You can see waypoint 8 on this screen, and I am expecting a direction instruction to go left, but instead I get a display instruction of a roundabout later at the route.

                                    1.png

                                    Same with waypoint 9: I clear need to go left on this intersection, but no audio instruction and a wrong display that shows again the roundabout later at the route.

                                    2.png

                                    As of my opinion a lot of map visibility is lost due to the large size of the blue boxes at the left (with a lot of space unused). Due to this the visibility of the navigation is pushed very much to the right of the display.

                                    Sound: Navigation instructions are much to less loud. If I use only navigation, I can turn up the volume of my headset, but as soon as I listen internet radio, then I must reduce the general volume to avoid that I don’t hear my surrounding anymore. As soon as a navigation instruction comes, the internet radio volume is reduced, but the instruction is at the same reduced level as well. After the instruction the internet radio volume goes up again. Due to this I complete miss the audio instruction and need to look on the display to see where to go. This is as well by using Android Auto as well as with navigation on the phone only.

                                    Hope this helps to improve MRA, since I really like the software and all possible planning options at the PC and navigation with it.

                                    Groeten uit Zwitserland,
                                    Hans

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                                    • Hans Hüppiundefined Hans Hüppi

                                      Phone: Samsung S21 Ultra
                                      Android Auto display: Chigee AIO-5 Lite
                                      Headset: Interphone UCOM16
                                      Bike: R1250GSA

                                      At Easter I build a Chigee AIO-5 Lite display with CarPlay/Android Auto on my R1250GSA. And since the MyRouteApp support now Android Auto this seems a perfect solution for me. I tested it today with V4.1.1-294 on a ride. It’s my first serious ride with Android Auto, before I had a quadlock with my mobile in vertical position in front of me. I faced several issues today:

                                      • In Android Auto the surrounding streets not on the route are much less good visible. On the phone I get a good impression on what is coming next, in Android Auto these roads are not so well visible. My map settings are zoom ++ and angle ++. On the photos the display does not look bright, but it is in real. I had to take a photo on a low angle otherwise the display is like a mirror for the camera.

                                      • You can see waypoint 8 on this screen, and I am expecting a direction instruction to go left, but instead I get a display instruction of a roundabout later at the route.

                                      1.png

                                      Same with waypoint 9: I clear need to go left on this intersection, but no audio instruction and a wrong display that shows again the roundabout later at the route.

                                      2.png

                                      As of my opinion a lot of map visibility is lost due to the large size of the blue boxes at the left (with a lot of space unused). Due to this the visibility of the navigation is pushed very much to the right of the display.

                                      Sound: Navigation instructions are much to less loud. If I use only navigation, I can turn up the volume of my headset, but as soon as I listen internet radio, then I must reduce the general volume to avoid that I don’t hear my surrounding anymore. As soon as a navigation instruction comes, the internet radio volume is reduced, but the instruction is at the same reduced level as well. After the instruction the internet radio volume goes up again. Due to this I complete miss the audio instruction and need to look on the display to see where to go. This is as well by using Android Auto as well as with navigation on the phone only.

                                      Hope this helps to improve MRA, since I really like the software and all possible planning options at the PC and navigation with it.

                                      Groeten uit Zwitserland,
                                      Hans

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                                      @Hans-Hüppi said in New beta v4.1.1 (294):

                                      You can see waypoint 8 on this screen, and I am expecting a direction instruction to go left, but instead I get a display instruction of a roundabout later at the route.

                                      I am not sure this is going to solve the problem, but do yourself a favor, and place waypoints at least 200 mtrs from any crossing.

                                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                      • Hans Hüppiundefined Hans Hüppi

                                        Phone: Samsung S21 Ultra
                                        Android Auto display: Chigee AIO-5 Lite
                                        Headset: Interphone UCOM16
                                        Bike: R1250GSA

                                        At Easter I build a Chigee AIO-5 Lite display with CarPlay/Android Auto on my R1250GSA. And since the MyRouteApp support now Android Auto this seems a perfect solution for me. I tested it today with V4.1.1-294 on a ride. It’s my first serious ride with Android Auto, before I had a quadlock with my mobile in vertical position in front of me. I faced several issues today:

                                        • In Android Auto the surrounding streets not on the route are much less good visible. On the phone I get a good impression on what is coming next, in Android Auto these roads are not so well visible. My map settings are zoom ++ and angle ++. On the photos the display does not look bright, but it is in real. I had to take a photo on a low angle otherwise the display is like a mirror for the camera.

                                        • You can see waypoint 8 on this screen, and I am expecting a direction instruction to go left, but instead I get a display instruction of a roundabout later at the route.

                                        1.png

                                        Same with waypoint 9: I clear need to go left on this intersection, but no audio instruction and a wrong display that shows again the roundabout later at the route.

                                        2.png

                                        As of my opinion a lot of map visibility is lost due to the large size of the blue boxes at the left (with a lot of space unused). Due to this the visibility of the navigation is pushed very much to the right of the display.

                                        Sound: Navigation instructions are much to less loud. If I use only navigation, I can turn up the volume of my headset, but as soon as I listen internet radio, then I must reduce the general volume to avoid that I don’t hear my surrounding anymore. As soon as a navigation instruction comes, the internet radio volume is reduced, but the instruction is at the same reduced level as well. After the instruction the internet radio volume goes up again. Due to this I complete miss the audio instruction and need to look on the display to see where to go. This is as well by using Android Auto as well as with navigation on the phone only.

                                        Hope this helps to improve MRA, since I really like the software and all possible planning options at the PC and navigation with it.

                                        Groeten uit Zwitserland,
                                        Hans

                                        Jörgenundefined Online
                                        Jörgenundefined Online
                                        Jörgen
                                        Instructor
                                        wrote on last edited by
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                                        @Hans-Hüppi

                                        Hallo, warum deine nächste Richtungsänderung nicht korrekt angezeigt wird, kann ich erstmal nicht sagen. Aber ein Tipp vorab, man setzt niemals Wegpunkte in die Nähe (oder auf) Abbiegungen oder Kreuzungen.
                                        Das gibt nur Problem und kollidiert mit der Ansagen von Abbiegungen und dem Wegpunkt gleichzeitig selber.
                                        Also WP immer weiter weg setzen!

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                                        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                          @Hans-Hüppi said in New beta v4.1.1 (294):

                                          You can see waypoint 8 on this screen, and I am expecting a direction instruction to go left, but instead I get a display instruction of a roundabout later at the route.

                                          I am not sure this is going to solve the problem, but do yourself a favor, and place waypoints at least 200 mtrs from any crossing.

                                          Jörgenundefined Online
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                                          Jörgen
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                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @Con-Hennekens same thought 😊

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                                          Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                                          Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                                          Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                                          For more information, click here

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