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  • Guzt
    Guzt
    Guzt
    wrote on last edited by
    #1

    It would be handy if one could make a track from a route in one click and being saved automaticaly in the track logs with the question of you want to use it as an underlay in the current route. Now you have to save it first and import it into the track logs before you can use it as an underlay in your route before optimizing your route (change from fastet to shortest or visa versa) or change maps and still have a reference vailable of the original route.
    Do hope the development team is picking this up.

    SP2820, 550, 660, 590, XT, MRA Next. Mapsource, Tyre (met de nodige conversaties tot hierboven), Kurviger, Routeyou, MRA Gold sinds het begin, MRA Next app, App68studio,.. en BC natuurlijk

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    • Guzt Guzt

      It would be handy if one could make a track from a route in one click and being saved automaticaly in the track logs with the question of you want to use it as an underlay in the current route. Now you have to save it first and import it into the track logs before you can use it as an underlay in your route before optimizing your route (change from fastet to shortest or visa versa) or change maps and still have a reference vailable of the original route.
      Do hope the development team is picking this up.

      TorqueRider
      TorqueRider
      TorqueRider
      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      @Guzt said in Route to track convertion:

      saved automaticaly in the track logs

      I like your idea. But the created route track should then be saved in the personal library. Not with the track logs, because as the name suggests, they are logs. So from routes driven.

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      • TorqueRider TorqueRider

        @Guzt said in Route to track convertion:

        saved automaticaly in the track logs

        I like your idea. But the created route track should then be saved in the personal library. Not with the track logs, because as the name suggests, they are logs. So from routes driven.

        Guzt
        Guzt
        Guzt
        wrote on last edited by
        #3

        @Jack-van-Tilburg I thought that that was obvious that the track should than be saved in one's personal library of tracklogs.
        Routes imported from or driven or just made makes no difference.
        I normally use basecamp and there it much easier: just 2 clicks.

        SP2820, 550, 660, 590, XT, MRA Next. Mapsource, Tyre (met de nodige conversaties tot hierboven), Kurviger, Routeyou, MRA Gold sinds het begin, MRA Next app, App68studio,.. en BC natuurlijk

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        • Guzt Guzt

          @Jack-van-Tilburg I thought that that was obvious that the track should than be saved in one's personal library of tracklogs.
          Routes imported from or driven or just made makes no difference.
          I normally use basecamp and there it much easier: just 2 clicks.

          Con Hennekens
          Con Hennekens
          Con Hennekens
          Alpha tester
          wrote on last edited by
          #4

          @Guzt, What @Jack-van-Tilburg means it that it is not a tracklog (recorded breadcrumb trail) but a routetrack (a breadcrumb generated from a planned route). These are stored at different locations. A tracklog will be found in the tracklog folder, a routetrack will be found between the routes. Basecamp probably does not distinguish between these formats.

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          • TorqueRider
            TorqueRider
            TorqueRider
            wrote on last edited by
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            @Guzt
            It's clear what you mean! And it's a good suggestion! 👍
            It's just the terminology used. 😉

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            • Guzt Guzt

              @Jack-van-Tilburg I thought that that was obvious that the track should than be saved in one's personal library of tracklogs.
              Routes imported from or driven or just made makes no difference.
              I normally use basecamp and there it much easier: just 2 clicks.

              HABVEN aka MrMRA
              HABVEN aka MrMRA
              HABVEN aka MrMRA
              Valued contributor
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @Guzt

              When you save or export the route the track is included

              BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
              Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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              • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

                @Guzt

                When you save or export the route the track is included

                TorqueRider
                TorqueRider
                TorqueRider
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                I am pretty sure @Guzt knows that.
                And I am pretty sure he means this function in Mapsource
                Just right click and choose convert to track in the contextmenu. The result is a track in the same folder as the route.

                Scherm­afbeelding 2024-03-19 om 21.26.52.png

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                • TorqueRider TorqueRider

                  @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                  I am pretty sure @Guzt knows that.
                  And I am pretty sure he means this function in Mapsource
                  Just right click and choose convert to track in the contextmenu. The result is a track in the same folder as the route.

                  Scherm­afbeelding 2024-03-19 om 21.26.52.png

                  HABVEN aka MrMRA
                  HABVEN aka MrMRA
                  HABVEN aka MrMRA
                  Valued contributor
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @Jack-van-Tilburg

                  I know that fuction. Also that you can edit a track in Basecamp.

                  BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                  Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                  • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

                    @Guzt

                    When you save or export the route the track is included

                    Guzt
                    Guzt
                    Guzt
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #9

                    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master Your answer is besides the point I'm addressing.
                    When e.g. a standard member makes a route in OSM and you import it into your routes and you change the map set, the route will change. In order to have a reference you need the track for comparising. So before changing the map set, you need to save the track first and then import it again in your tracklogs folder before you can use it as an underlay in the mapset suitable for your gps. Even when one uses the same mapset you need the track before you can optimize the route (fastet to shortest and drag the route to the track). When you do this and send the route as a gpx1.1 (route, track, POI) to any one they will ride the same route for 99.99% (calculating algorithms in the gps differ from those in the route planner) after recalculation of the direct route in the gps (I hate track to route convertion in the gps as one loses the waypoints in the route and is only handy for large driving events where the route is split up in sections from stop to stop and one doesn't have to care about what gps is used).
                    Another advantage of recalculating routes in both fastest time and shorter distance is that a garmin user can leave the recalculation mode in the gps on 'on". Even the XT users I know whom uses MRA prefer this method i.s.o. using the gpx1.2
                    I have been using this same principle in basecamp for years now and even when I import an optimized BC route in MRA I still have to make changes just due to different calculating algorithms or small map set differences.

                    SP2820, 550, 660, 590, XT, MRA Next. Mapsource, Tyre (met de nodige conversaties tot hierboven), Kurviger, Routeyou, MRA Gold sinds het begin, MRA Next app, App68studio,.. en BC natuurlijk

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                    • Mike Walker
                      Mike Walker
                      Mike Walker
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #10

                      Hi all - just to add I agree with the OP. It seems counter-intuitive to have to export and import from MRA to save the track. I also use the same functionality in Basecamp but am keen to see about moving to MRA because the cloud functionality is so much better.

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                      • Mike Walker Mike Walker

                        Hi all - just to add I agree with the OP. It seems counter-intuitive to have to export and import from MRA to save the track. I also use the same functionality in Basecamp but am keen to see about moving to MRA because the cloud functionality is so much better.

                        Con Hennekens
                        Con Hennekens
                        Con Hennekens
                        Alpha tester
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @Mike-Walker, Actually, I expect such a function when the web planner gets it's overhaul sometime this year (hopefully!)

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                        • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                          @Mike-Walker, Actually, I expect such a function when the web planner gets it's overhaul sometime this year (hopefully!)

                          Mike Walker
                          Mike Walker
                          Mike Walker
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #12

                          @Con-Hennekens and do we think the functionality to display a track whilst navigating a route might also make an appearance at some point soon?

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                          • Mike Walker Mike Walker

                            @Con-Hennekens and do we think the functionality to display a track whilst navigating a route might also make an appearance at some point soon?

                            Con Hennekens
                            Con Hennekens
                            Con Hennekens
                            Alpha tester
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Mike-Walker, I really don't know. I would welcome that, but given the fact that the app already shows the initial route line the use case for showing tracks (that are not the route) is rather limited. I doubt that it will get priority, bu I also know it will make some people happy 😉

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                            • DaudGS
                              DaudGS
                              DaudGS
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              Has the development team taken any action to implement the change requested by @Gutz? The last comment on this topic is over a year old. I always found this to be a very useful option in Basecamp so I'm surprised it's not available in MRA.

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                              • Reinhard-32
                                Reinhard-32
                                Reinhard-32
                                wrote on last edited by Reinhard-32
                                #15

                                There is an "easy" way to do this. Copy the route and name the copy e.g. as route reference.
                                Then open the original route again and add the "route reference".
                                It will then look like a track. This takes about less than 1 minute.
                                Then change the calculation map and make any necessary adjustments.

                                Kindly regards
                                Reinhard

                                Montana 700i and Mac

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