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  • Jörgen
    Jörgen
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    #5

    Ok understand, but may be it could be an option by pressing CTRL, shift or ALT to make a VIA point.

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    • Jörgen Jörgen

      Ok understand, but may be it could be an option by pressing CTRL, shift or ALT to make a VIA point.

      Con Hennekens
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      wrote on last edited by
      #6

      @Jörgen said in Query when setting waypoint:

      Ok understand, but may be it could be an option by pressing CTRL, shift or ALT to make a VIA point.

      That, in itself, is not a bad idea. Or maybe something with a right-click.

      Discussion on the forum often is about adding via-points to ensure the shape of the route. That really is not what it is intended for. It is intended to prevent missing of obligatory stops, like lunch or rest stops, by the auto-skip function.

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      • Jure Sirena 0
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        Jure Sirena 0
        wrote on last edited by Jure Sirena 0
        #7

        I defenetely vote for this option. Especialy when you need to transfer route to bloody garmins this is important.

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        • Jure Sirena 0 Jure Sirena 0

          I defenetely vote for this option. Especialy when you need to transfer route to bloody garmins this is important.

          Con Hennekens
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          wrote on last edited by
          #8

          @Jure-Sirena-0, Why? I think you are using the wrong format then.

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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          • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

            @Jure-Sirena-0, Why? I think you are using the wrong format then.

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            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            @Con-Hennekens not myroute issue, its garmin issue, believe me we tried 1.2 with shaping points, 1.1 with waypoints….the only way it always imports gpx correctly (XT2) and routes correctly is to use 1.1 and waypoints only

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            • Jure Sirena 0 Jure Sirena 0

              @Con-Hennekens not myroute issue, its garmin issue, believe me we tried 1.2 with shaping points, 1.1 with waypoints….the only way it always imports gpx correctly (XT2) and routes correctly is to use 1.1 and waypoints only

              HABVEN aka MrMRA
              HABVEN aka MrMRA
              HABVEN aka MrMRA
              Valued contributor
              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              @Jure-Sirena-0

              gpx 1.2 is a route-track with via points, the route-track is converted into a route by the XT(2), so you have a route as planned with only the via points in it.
              You must have included some via points in your route outside the start and end points. Transferring with the connector or with the Garmanin Drive app works well. The Garmin Tread app cannot handle routes and produces a discrepancy. The Track is processed well by the Tread App and Garmin Explore.

              BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
              Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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              • Jure Sirena 0 Jure Sirena 0

                @Con-Hennekens not myroute issue, its garmin issue, believe me we tried 1.2 with shaping points, 1.1 with waypoints….the only way it always imports gpx correctly (XT2) and routes correctly is to use 1.1 and waypoints only

                Con Hennekens
                Con Hennekens
                Con Hennekens
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                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                @Jure-Sirena-0, so, if I understand correctly:

                • if you want to drive a route, use GPX1.1
                • if you want to drive a track, use GPX1.1
                • if you want to drive a track that includes the viapoints, use GPX 1.2

                So instead of mass-enabling viapoints, just use GPX1.1 instead.
                Is that correct @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master ?

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                  @Jure-Sirena-0, so, if I understand correctly:

                  • if you want to drive a route, use GPX1.1
                  • if you want to drive a track, use GPX1.1
                  • if you want to drive a track that includes the viapoints, use GPX 1.2

                  So instead of mass-enabling viapoints, just use GPX1.1 instead.
                  Is that correct @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master ?

                  Jure Sirena 0
                  Jure Sirena 0
                  Jure Sirena 0
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #12

                  @Con-Hennekens i never drive a track, just route. Its why we use 1.1 and waypoints.

                  If we use 1.2 it happens that some waypoints or shaping points are not imported at all (its xT2 tread app issue)

                  So by being able to choose waypoint / shaping point on the fly it helps

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                  • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

                    @Jure-Sirena-0

                    gpx 1.2 is a route-track with via points, the route-track is converted into a route by the XT(2), so you have a route as planned with only the via points in it.
                    You must have included some via points in your route outside the start and end points. Transferring with the connector or with the Garmanin Drive app works well. The Garmin Tread app cannot handle routes and produces a discrepancy. The Track is processed well by the Tread App and Garmin Explore.

                    Jure Sirena 0
                    Jure Sirena 0
                    Jure Sirena 0
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #13

                    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                    As mentioned in previous post, it happens some gets lost when using shapping and waypoints. There is even a case that i had only start and finish and nothing in between.

                    Its why its safer to use 1.1 and waypoints only.
                    When preparing several XTs and XT2 for group touristic rides under same gpx / same process you see wierd things.

                    Again we import over tread app - there is share function for all devices. To ise exporter device per device or similar for 20-30 devices its a bit too much

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                    • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                      @Jure-Sirena-0, so, if I understand correctly:

                      • if you want to drive a route, use GPX1.1
                      • if you want to drive a track, use GPX1.1
                      • if you want to drive a track that includes the viapoints, use GPX 1.2

                      So instead of mass-enabling viapoints, just use GPX1.1 instead.
                      Is that correct @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master ?

                      HABVEN aka MrMRA
                      HABVEN aka MrMRA
                      HABVEN aka MrMRA
                      Valued contributor
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      @Con-Hennekens said in Query when setting waypoint:

                      if you want to drive a route, use GPX1.1
                      if you want to drive a track, use GPX1.1
                      if you want to drive a track that includes the viapoints, use GPX 1.2

                      So instead of mass-enabling viapoints, just use GPX1.1 instead.

                      gpx 1.2 is a route-track with viapoints, the route-track will be converted to a route in your XT(2)

                      BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                      • Jure Sirena 0 Jure Sirena 0

                        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                        As mentioned in previous post, it happens some gets lost when using shapping and waypoints. There is even a case that i had only start and finish and nothing in between.

                        Its why its safer to use 1.1 and waypoints only.
                        When preparing several XTs and XT2 for group touristic rides under same gpx / same process you see wierd things.

                        Again we import over tread app - there is share function for all devices. To ise exporter device per device or similar for 20-30 devices its a bit too much

                        HABVEN aka MrMRA
                        HABVEN aka MrMRA
                        HABVEN aka MrMRA
                        Valued contributor
                        wrote on last edited by HABVEN aka MrMRA
                        #15

                        @Jure-Sirena-0

                        If you only have a start and end point, you have the track.

                        If you compose the route properly, a GPX 1.2 also works perfectly, I don't use anything else.
                        If you use the connector, a GPX 1.2 will also work well in an XT2

                        If you use the Tread app, it is best to use the GPX 1.1 and its track, because the Tread app and the Garmin Explore website cannot yet process route files properly. A track is processed properly.

                        BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                        Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                        • Jure Sirena 0 Jure Sirena 0

                          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                          As mentioned in previous post, it happens some gets lost when using shapping and waypoints. There is even a case that i had only start and finish and nothing in between.

                          Its why its safer to use 1.1 and waypoints only.
                          When preparing several XTs and XT2 for group touristic rides under same gpx / same process you see wierd things.

                          Again we import over tread app - there is share function for all devices. To ise exporter device per device or similar for 20-30 devices its a bit too much

                          Lynchy67
                          Lynchy67
                          Lynchy67
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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #16

                          @Jure-Sirena-0

                          I also have the XT2.
                          You can do it using the Connector or Garmin Express with GPX 1.2
                          Happy to provide a step by step if you need it?
                          Green Flag is the Start, Checkered Flag is the Finish, Orange Flags are the Intermediate Via Points that @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master mentions in his posts.

                          Screenshot below shows the Track and the 6 Via Points in the XT2.

                          90511.png

                          You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                          • Lynchy67 Lynchy67

                            @Jure-Sirena-0

                            I also have the XT2.
                            You can do it using the Connector or Garmin Express with GPX 1.2
                            Happy to provide a step by step if you need it?
                            Green Flag is the Start, Checkered Flag is the Finish, Orange Flags are the Intermediate Via Points that @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master mentions in his posts.

                            Screenshot below shows the Track and the 6 Via Points in the XT2.

                            90511.png

                            Corjan Meijerink
                            Corjan Meijerink
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #17

                            @Lynchy67 I wanna drive that loop on my Tiger now! 🙂

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                            • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                              @Lynchy67 I wanna drive that loop on my Tiger now! 🙂

                              Lynchy67
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                              wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
                              #18

                              @Corjan-Meijerink
                              ,
                              I reckon it would love it, 90% country lanes, you know, the ones with the grass/moss in the middle.
                              Whilst it wasn't raining today there must have been a lot of rain overnight, the Tiger1200 Rally Pro got a bit dirty, as it should.
                              I ran the route with MyRoute-App not the XT2 which is my back up.
                              Haven't had to use the XT2 once yet. 👍

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                              • Lynchy67 Lynchy67

                                @Jure-Sirena-0

                                I also have the XT2.
                                You can do it using the Connector or Garmin Express with GPX 1.2
                                Happy to provide a step by step if you need it?
                                Green Flag is the Start, Checkered Flag is the Finish, Orange Flags are the Intermediate Via Points that @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master mentions in his posts.

                                Screenshot below shows the Track and the 6 Via Points in the XT2.

                                90511.png

                                Jure Sirena 0
                                Jure Sirena 0
                                Jure Sirena 0
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #19

                                @Lynchy67 guys thanks for help but we cant use connector in moto tour company….10-20 devices sometimes need to be managed on the fly and then all synced asap. i know how to use connector.
                                As said all is well I adapt some things and use only 1.1

                                But its all about original post not about files and connectors - it would really help to have this option.

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                                • Lynchy67 Lynchy67

                                  @Jure-Sirena-0

                                  I also have the XT2.
                                  You can do it using the Connector or Garmin Express with GPX 1.2
                                  Happy to provide a step by step if you need it?
                                  Green Flag is the Start, Checkered Flag is the Finish, Orange Flags are the Intermediate Via Points that @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master mentions in his posts.

                                  Screenshot below shows the Track and the 6 Via Points in the XT2.

                                  90511.png

                                  HABVEN aka MrMRA
                                  HABVEN aka MrMRA
                                  HABVEN aka MrMRA
                                  Valued contributor
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #20

                                  @Lynchy67

                                  And here the gpx 1.2 route, Track and via points
                                  Black = Track
                                  5aa48009-5c07-4420-8af0-de6dcf59cfd5-25792.png

                                  BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                                  Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                                  • HABVEN aka MrMRA HABVEN aka MrMRA

                                    @Lynchy67

                                    And here the gpx 1.2 route, Track and via points
                                    Black = Track
                                    5aa48009-5c07-4420-8af0-de6dcf59cfd5-25792.png

                                    Lynchy67
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                                    wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
                                    #21

                                    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                                    As the XT2 is my back up (I use MyRoute-App on Android as my main device with the full Quadlock set up) I never really bothered with the Track before.
                                    I guess I should add the Track for those unforeseen blockages that require me to go off route and then re-join further ahead.

                                    Thanks for the reminder. 👍

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                                    • Lynchy67 Lynchy67

                                      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                                      As the XT2 is my back up (I use MyRoute-App on Android as my main device with the full Quadlock set up) I never really bothered with the Track before.
                                      I guess I should add the Track for those unforeseen blockages that require me to go off route and then re-join further ahead.

                                      Thanks for the reminder. 👍

                                      HABVEN aka MrMRA
                                      HABVEN aka MrMRA
                                      HABVEN aka MrMRA
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #22

                                      @Lynchy67

                                      The XT2 is my BackUp too.

                                      BMW BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT//Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
                                      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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