New Beta! (v3.2.12)

[Bart De Medts]

@Corjan-Meijerink @Corjan-Meijerink Will do

[Vlad Popovici 0]

@Corjan-Meijerink Today was the day with no crash

The new version seems more stable, however there is an issue, it is very laggy in updating the position. The voice announcements are on point while the current position is still not updated. Even the tracklog sometimes is updated before the current position, leading to the yellow trail going ahead of the icon. This is a problem when you turn right and immediately to the left.

The Offline maps require an update but there is no indication if it is downloaded or not. There is no progress indication. First time when I entered the offline maps category all the maps were there and the "Download update" on top. I clicked it, nothing happened, two hours later when I enter the same category, there are no maps anymore, just the button and a text "A map update is mandatory before you can continue...". Now is on "Downloading update", I don't know if I can exit this screen, is it downloading in background? How much time will take? Is it updating the maps themselves or something else, because I had the whole Europe downloaded? With no progress bar I don't know what to do...

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Vlad-Popovici-0 glad to hear!

Position delay is a known issue and we are working on that

Regarding the offline maps - we will improve this in a future update. Unfortunately we cannot show a progress indicator (yet) for those updates. Some stupid technical limitation. But yes, if it shows it’s downloading, it will continue in the background.

[Rob Verhoeff]

Did a perfect test today. Not with CarPlay but on the bike and offline. Since I hate voice commands, I have no problems with that. They are off . Navigation is as stable as it can be
With this version I can go on my Pentecost trip to the Alps (I hope HERE has solved the issue with seasonal closure by then).

https://www.myrouteapp.com/nl/social/track/464684?mode=share

Only forgot to take pictures en route...

iPhone 13, cable to USB, started navigation at 90% battery capacity and ended at a 100% battery capacity!

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Rob-Verhoeff very happy to read that! Thanks for sharing

[Stefan Hummelink]

@Rob-Verhoeff hmmm. Apparently the huge screen/position lag is only Android related...

[Rob Verhoeff]

@StefanHummelink I want to follow a route. Don't pin-point execatly to the spot. As you probably now, a route through the Alps doesn't require that on the spot positioning. iOS also has a bit of lag in positioning, but not as massive as I read in som posts.

[Corjan Meijerink]

@StefanHummelink it’s a problem on all platforms! If you’re driving routes on backroads (like I also did in Luxembourg last week and Rob now in the Alps), you just don’t notice it that much. There just aren’t that many alternative roads

Driving in cities / highways is when the issue becomes noticeable.

[Hans van de Ven MR.MRA]

@Con-Hennekens
There are 24 hours in a day and then you still have the night....

[Nick Carthew]

@Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v3.2.12):

Driving in cities / highways is when the issue becomes noticeable.

You have 3 days to fix this

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Nick-Carthew wanker

[Con Hennekens]

What is very funny (well, imho that is...) about the massive lag, is that the voice does NOT seem to be effected. We drove a route yesterday, and it struck me that voice guidance is spot-on, while the screen position lags massively (@Corjan-Meijerink, yeah Brabantse platteland has more sideways and crossings then Ardennes and Alps I guess )

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Con-Hennekens that actually totally makes sense to us The voice prompts are triggered by your exact location. The position delay on screen has other causes

[Con Hennekens]

@Corjan-Meijerink, that is incredibly strange for a non-developer like me... Putting a position on a map that is actually NOT the one given by the location services...? I am glad we have developers that actually know what they are talking about, but at the same time, if you knew what caused it, you would have resolved it by now.... It must be more complex than my brain can handle

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Con-Hennekens the position on the map is provided by the same location service. However, the arrow as drawn on the map wants a continuous animation while the location updates are discrete (based on a interval).
For every location update the arrow is animated between the previous location and the next based on an interpolation of the route you are driving. The locations need to be snapped to the road to account for gps inaccuracies. You also want to prevent the arrow to appear as jumping so animations are slightly delayed / sped up based on the discrete intervals. These are somewhat the most important factors

For voice prompts, all the above don’t matter. You are at position x (with a confidence) and that triggers the instruction

[Con Hennekens]

@Corjan-Meijerink, okay, you actually know what you are talking about (but I already knew that )

[Corjan Meijerink]

@Con-Hennekens

[Nick Carthew]

@Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v3.2.12):

@Con-Hennekens the position on the map is provided by the same location service. However, the arrow as drawn on the map wants a continuous animation while the location updates are discrete (based on a interval).
For every location update the arrow is animated between the previous location and the next based on an interpolation of the route you are driving. The locations need to be snapped to the road to account for gps inaccuracies. You also want to prevent the arrow to appear as jumping so animations are slightly delayed / sped up based on the discrete intervals. These are somewhat the most important factors

For voice prompts, all the above don’t matter. You are at position x (with a confidence) and that triggers the instruction

Smartarse

[Stefan Hummelink]

@Corjan-Meijerink Oooooohhh, my engineering heart loves these technical in depth answers from you.

[Corjan Meijerink]

@StefanHummelink hahah thanks!