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  • undefined Rob Verhoeff
    15 Apr 2023, 06:58

    @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v3.2.12):

    Offline routing
    Who is looking forward to a internet free drive? I am! ๐Ÿ˜ƒ
    If you've downloaded the offline maps of the region you are driving through, you can now use the app completely in offline mode. The long awaited setting for this has now been activated.

    I couldn't download an offline map after installing 3.2.12-165. I switched back tot the previous version, downloaded the Dutch map and then re-installed 3.2.12-165. Then I could download maps again.

    Strange!!! ๐Ÿค”

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    Arno 0
    wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 11:24 last edited by
    #57

    @Rob-Verhoeff Iโ€™m having the same problem on my iPhone 14 with latest iOS. Did not try your workaround yet.

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    • undefined Corjan Meijerink
      15 Apr 2023, 11:06

      @Bart-DM could you create a separate suggestion for that, easier to keep track of. Please include a screenshot of your pretty ass CarPlay resolution screen.

      The position indicator is not resolution aware, that would be the fix ๐Ÿ™‚

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      Bart De Medts
      Alpha tester
      wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 12:03 last edited by
      #58

      @Corjan-Meijerink @Corjan-Meijerink Will do ๐Ÿ™‚

      ๐Ÿ๏ธ Motorcycle: DMD-T665 + SilverFox controller
      ๐Ÿš— Car: iPhone 15 Pro with wireless Apple CarPlay

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        wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 18:13 last edited by
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        @Corjan-Meijerink Today was the day with no crash ๐Ÿ™‚

        The new version seems more stable, however there is an issue, it is very laggy in updating the position. The voice announcements are on point while the current position is still not updated. Even the tracklog sometimes is updated before the current position, leading to the yellow trail going ahead of the icon. This is a problem when you turn right and immediately to the left.

        The Offline maps require an update but there is no indication if it is downloaded or not. There is no progress indication. First time when I entered the offline maps category all the maps were there and the "Download update" on top. I clicked it, nothing happened, two hours later when I enter the same category, there are no maps anymore, just the button and a text "A map update is mandatory before you can continue...". Now is on "Downloading update", I don't know if I can exit this screen, is it downloading in background? How much time will take? Is it updating the maps themselves or something else, because I had the whole Europe downloaded? With no progress bar I don't know what to do...

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        • undefined Vlad Popovici 0
          15 Apr 2023, 18:13

          @Corjan-Meijerink Today was the day with no crash ๐Ÿ™‚

          The new version seems more stable, however there is an issue, it is very laggy in updating the position. The voice announcements are on point while the current position is still not updated. Even the tracklog sometimes is updated before the current position, leading to the yellow trail going ahead of the icon. This is a problem when you turn right and immediately to the left.

          The Offline maps require an update but there is no indication if it is downloaded or not. There is no progress indication. First time when I entered the offline maps category all the maps were there and the "Download update" on top. I clicked it, nothing happened, two hours later when I enter the same category, there are no maps anymore, just the button and a text "A map update is mandatory before you can continue...". Now is on "Downloading update", I don't know if I can exit this screen, is it downloading in background? How much time will take? Is it updating the maps themselves or something else, because I had the whole Europe downloaded? With no progress bar I don't know what to do...

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          wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 18:50 last edited by Corjan Meijerink
          #60

          @Vlad-Popovici-0 glad to hear!

          Position delay is a known issue and we are working on that ๐Ÿ™‚

          Regarding the offline maps - we will improve this in a future update. Unfortunately we cannot show a progress indicator (yet) for those updates. Some stupid technical limitation. But yes, if it shows itโ€™s downloading, it will continue in the background.

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            Rob Verhoeff
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            wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 21:36 last edited by Rob Verhoeff
            #61

            Did a perfect test today. Not with CarPlay but on the bike and offline. Since I hate voice commands, I have no problems with that. They are off ๐Ÿ˜Š . Navigation is as stable as it can be ๐Ÿ‘
            With this version I can go on my Pentecost trip to the Alps (I hope HERE has solved the issue with seasonal closure by then).

            https://www.myrouteapp.com/nl/social/track/464684?mode=share

            Only forgot to take pictures en route...

            iPhone 13, cable to USB, started navigation at 90% battery capacity and ended at a 100% battery capacity!

            BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
            iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
            Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
            Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Sequoia & Monterey)

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            • undefined Rob Verhoeff
              15 Apr 2023, 21:36

              Did a perfect test today. Not with CarPlay but on the bike and offline. Since I hate voice commands, I have no problems with that. They are off ๐Ÿ˜Š . Navigation is as stable as it can be ๐Ÿ‘
              With this version I can go on my Pentecost trip to the Alps (I hope HERE has solved the issue with seasonal closure by then).

              https://www.myrouteapp.com/nl/social/track/464684?mode=share

              Only forgot to take pictures en route...

              iPhone 13, cable to USB, started navigation at 90% battery capacity and ended at a 100% battery capacity!

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              Corjan Meijerink
              Developer
              wrote on 15 Apr 2023, 21:54 last edited by
              #62

              @Rob-Verhoeff very happy to read that! Thanks for sharing ๐Ÿ™‚

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              • undefined Rob Verhoeff
                15 Apr 2023, 21:36

                Did a perfect test today. Not with CarPlay but on the bike and offline. Since I hate voice commands, I have no problems with that. They are off ๐Ÿ˜Š . Navigation is as stable as it can be ๐Ÿ‘
                With this version I can go on my Pentecost trip to the Alps (I hope HERE has solved the issue with seasonal closure by then).

                https://www.myrouteapp.com/nl/social/track/464684?mode=share

                Only forgot to take pictures en route...

                iPhone 13, cable to USB, started navigation at 90% battery capacity and ended at a 100% battery capacity!

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                Stefan Hummelink
                Alpha tester
                wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 07:15 last edited by
                #63

                @Rob-Verhoeff hmmm. Apparently the huge screen/position lag is only Android related... ๐Ÿ˜ญ

                Manks bu'j te bange.

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                • undefined Stefan Hummelink
                  16 Apr 2023, 07:15

                  @Rob-Verhoeff hmmm. Apparently the huge screen/position lag is only Android related... ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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                  Rob Verhoeff
                  Alpha tester
                  wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 08:34 last edited by
                  #64

                  @StefanHummelink I want to follow a route. Don't pin-point execatly to the spot. As you probably now, a route through the Alps doesn't require that on the spot positioning. iOS also has a bit of lag in positioning, but not as massive as I read in som posts.

                  BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                  iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                  Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                  Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Sequoia & Monterey)

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                  • undefined Stefan Hummelink
                    16 Apr 2023, 07:15

                    @Rob-Verhoeff hmmm. Apparently the huge screen/position lag is only Android related... ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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                    Corjan Meijerink
                    Developer
                    wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 09:14 last edited by
                    #65

                    @StefanHummelink itโ€™s a problem on all platforms! If youโ€™re driving routes on backroads (like I also did in Luxembourg last week and Rob now in the Alps), you just donโ€™t notice it that much. There just arenโ€™t that many alternative roads ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    Driving in cities / highways is when the issue becomes noticeable.

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                    • undefined Con Hennekens
                      14 Apr 2023, 11:32

                      Android is already available.
                      How many people are actively developing this app? I know @Corjan-Meijerink and Joost, but it is incredible to think this is a two-man show, especially with the large amount of Corjan's forum presence (which is greatly valued btw!).

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                      Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
                      RouteXpert
                      wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 09:17 last edited by
                      #66

                      @Con-Hennekens
                      There are 24 hours in a day and then you still have the night....๐Ÿ˜‰

                      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                      • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                        16 Apr 2023, 09:14

                        @StefanHummelink itโ€™s a problem on all platforms! If youโ€™re driving routes on backroads (like I also did in Luxembourg last week and Rob now in the Alps), you just donโ€™t notice it that much. There just arenโ€™t that many alternative roads ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        Driving in cities / highways is when the issue becomes noticeable.

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                        Nick Carthew
                        RouteXpert
                        wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 11:27 last edited by
                        #67

                        @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v3.2.12):

                        Driving in cities / highways is when the issue becomes noticeable.

                        You have 3 days to fix this ๐Ÿ˜œ

                        Always willing to help if I can.
                        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                        Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                        Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                        TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                        • undefined Nick Carthew
                          16 Apr 2023, 11:27

                          @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v3.2.12):

                          Driving in cities / highways is when the issue becomes noticeable.

                          You have 3 days to fix this ๐Ÿ˜œ

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                          Corjan Meijerink
                          Developer
                          wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 13:29 last edited by
                          #68

                          @Nick-Carthew wanker ๐Ÿ™‚

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                            Con Hennekens
                            Alpha tester
                            wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 17:59 last edited by
                            #69

                            What is very funny (well, imho that is...) about the massive lag, is that the voice does NOT seem to be effected. We drove a route yesterday, and it struck me that voice guidance is spot-on, while the screen position lags massively (@Corjan-Meijerink, yeah Brabantse platteland has more sideways and crossings then Ardennes and Alps I guess ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                            • undefined Con Hennekens
                              16 Apr 2023, 17:59

                              What is very funny (well, imho that is...) about the massive lag, is that the voice does NOT seem to be effected. We drove a route yesterday, and it struck me that voice guidance is spot-on, while the screen position lags massively (@Corjan-Meijerink, yeah Brabantse platteland has more sideways and crossings then Ardennes and Alps I guess ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

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                              Corjan Meijerink
                              Developer
                              wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 18:05 last edited by
                              #70

                              @Con-Hennekens that actually totally makes sense to us ๐Ÿ™‚ The voice prompts are triggered by your exact location. The position delay on screen has other causes ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                16 Apr 2023, 18:05

                                @Con-Hennekens that actually totally makes sense to us ๐Ÿ™‚ The voice prompts are triggered by your exact location. The position delay on screen has other causes ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                Con Hennekens
                                Alpha tester
                                wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 18:18 last edited by
                                #71

                                @Corjan-Meijerink, that is incredibly strange for a non-developer like me... Putting a position on a map that is actually NOT the one given by the location services...? I am glad we have developers that actually know what they are talking about, but at the same time, if you knew what caused it, you would have resolved it by now.... It must be more complex than my brain can handle ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                • undefined Con Hennekens
                                  16 Apr 2023, 18:18

                                  @Corjan-Meijerink, that is incredibly strange for a non-developer like me... Putting a position on a map that is actually NOT the one given by the location services...? I am glad we have developers that actually know what they are talking about, but at the same time, if you knew what caused it, you would have resolved it by now.... It must be more complex than my brain can handle ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                  Developer
                                  wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 18:31 last edited by
                                  #72

                                  @Con-Hennekens the position on the map is provided by the same location service. However, the arrow as drawn on the map wants a continuous animation while the location updates are discrete (based on a interval).
                                  For every location update the arrow is animated between the previous location and the next based on an interpolation of the route you are driving. The locations need to be snapped to the road to account for gps inaccuracies. You also want to prevent the arrow to appear as jumping so animations are slightly delayed / sped up based on the discrete intervals. These are somewhat the most important factors ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                  For voice prompts, all the above donโ€™t matter. You are at position x (with a confidence) and that triggers the instruction ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                    16 Apr 2023, 18:31

                                    @Con-Hennekens the position on the map is provided by the same location service. However, the arrow as drawn on the map wants a continuous animation while the location updates are discrete (based on a interval).
                                    For every location update the arrow is animated between the previous location and the next based on an interpolation of the route you are driving. The locations need to be snapped to the road to account for gps inaccuracies. You also want to prevent the arrow to appear as jumping so animations are slightly delayed / sped up based on the discrete intervals. These are somewhat the most important factors ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                    For voice prompts, all the above donโ€™t matter. You are at position x (with a confidence) and that triggers the instruction ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                    Alpha tester
                                    wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 18:35 last edited by
                                    #73

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink, okay, you actually know what you are talking about (but I already knew that ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

                                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                      16 Apr 2023, 18:35

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink, okay, you actually know what you are talking about (but I already knew that ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

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                                      wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 18:39 last edited by
                                      #74

                                      @Con-Hennekens ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

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                                        16 Apr 2023, 18:31

                                        @Con-Hennekens the position on the map is provided by the same location service. However, the arrow as drawn on the map wants a continuous animation while the location updates are discrete (based on a interval).
                                        For every location update the arrow is animated between the previous location and the next based on an interpolation of the route you are driving. The locations need to be snapped to the road to account for gps inaccuracies. You also want to prevent the arrow to appear as jumping so animations are slightly delayed / sped up based on the discrete intervals. These are somewhat the most important factors ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        For voice prompts, all the above donโ€™t matter. You are at position x (with a confidence) and that triggers the instruction ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                        RouteXpert
                                        wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 18:52 last edited by
                                        #75

                                        @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v3.2.12):

                                        @Con-Hennekens the position on the map is provided by the same location service. However, the arrow as drawn on the map wants a continuous animation while the location updates are discrete (based on a interval).
                                        For every location update the arrow is animated between the previous location and the next based on an interpolation of the route you are driving. The locations need to be snapped to the road to account for gps inaccuracies. You also want to prevent the arrow to appear as jumping so animations are slightly delayed / sped up based on the discrete intervals. These are somewhat the most important factors ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                        For voice prompts, all the above donโ€™t matter. You are at position x (with a confidence) and that triggers the instruction ๐Ÿ™‚

                                        Smartarse ๐Ÿค“

                                        Always willing to help if I can.
                                        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                                        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                                        Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                                        Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                                        TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                                        • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                                          16 Apr 2023, 18:31

                                          @Con-Hennekens the position on the map is provided by the same location service. However, the arrow as drawn on the map wants a continuous animation while the location updates are discrete (based on a interval).
                                          For every location update the arrow is animated between the previous location and the next based on an interpolation of the route you are driving. The locations need to be snapped to the road to account for gps inaccuracies. You also want to prevent the arrow to appear as jumping so animations are slightly delayed / sped up based on the discrete intervals. These are somewhat the most important factors ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                          For voice prompts, all the above donโ€™t matter. You are at position x (with a confidence) and that triggers the instruction ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                          Alpha tester
                                          wrote on 16 Apr 2023, 21:20 last edited by
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                                          @Corjan-Meijerink Oooooohhh, my engineering heart loves these technical in depth answers from you. ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

                                          Manks bu'j te bange.

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