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    Mopetenpit
    wrote on 26 Mar 2023, 19:25 last edited by
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    I drove a short round today (about 100 km). The navigation worked well.
    Only the German announcement of the distances was faulty:
    Instead of
    "Folgen die dem Verlauf der Straße für 3 Kilometer".
    was
    "Folgen die dem Verlauf der Straße für homographstart 3 homographend Kilometer"
    announced.
    I did not understand the word "homographxxx" exactly, maybe it is a little different. It seems that the language engine is supplied with literals that are not necessary.
    My two cents....

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      26 Mar 2023, 19:25

      I drove a short round today (about 100 km). The navigation worked well.
      Only the German announcement of the distances was faulty:
      Instead of
      "Folgen die dem Verlauf der Straße für 3 Kilometer".
      was
      "Folgen die dem Verlauf der Straße für homographstart 3 homographend Kilometer"
      announced.
      I did not understand the word "homographxxx" exactly, maybe it is a little different. It seems that the language engine is supplied with literals that are not necessary.
      My two cents....

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      Corjan Meijerink
      administrator
      wrote on 26 Mar 2023, 19:34 last edited by Corjan Meijerink
      #2

      @Mopetenpit funny! @Jörgen mentioned this too here: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/2993/strange-word-in-german-voice-command but also told us the issue had been solved.

      We however have no influence here and this seems something to do with either HERE or your phone.
      Maybe you can help each other / share some info in this thread 🙂

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        Jörgen
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        wrote on 26 Mar 2023, 22:16 last edited by
        #3

        Very interesting, I was not the only one "Gott sei dank".
        I have a iPhone X with iOS 16...
        It went away with the second last update.
        Which version of MRA Next are you using @Mopetenpit ?

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        Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
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          26 Mar 2023, 22:16

          Very interesting, I was not the only one "Gott sei dank".
          I have a iPhone X with iOS 16...
          It went away with the second last update.
          Which version of MRA Next are you using @Mopetenpit ?

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          Mopetenpit
          wrote on 27 Mar 2023, 06:39 last edited by
          #4

          @Jörgen Ich verwende die aktuellste Version von MRA.
          Ich werde nochmal einen Test machen: Für die Motorrad-Navigation nutze ich ein iPhone 7 plus, hier höre ich auch die o.g. Worte. Für das Testen (nicht auf dem Motorrad) der MRA-Software nutze ich ein iPhone 13 Pro. Ich werde mal mit beiden iPhones gleichzeitig fahren und hören...

          Ich informiere!

          Peter

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            Con Hennekens
            wrote on 27 Mar 2023, 11:55 last edited by
            #5

            Since "homograph" is a linguistic term, I think it is really plausible to assume it's coming from or has to do with the speech synthesis engin.

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              Mopetenpit
              wrote on 28 Mar 2023, 20:09 last edited by
              #6

              Did a short test drive with my two iPhones today:

              • iPhone 13 pro with iOS 16.3.1 (="Business-iPhone")
              • iPhone 7 Plus with iOS 15.7.4 (="MRA-iPhone" for the motorbike).

              It's unbelievable, the iPhone 13 generates the correct announcement, the iPhone 7 generates the wrong (as described above) announcement.
              Has anyone else - apart from Jörgen - noticed such behaviour...?

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                28 Mar 2023, 20:09

                Did a short test drive with my two iPhones today:

                • iPhone 13 pro with iOS 16.3.1 (="Business-iPhone")
                • iPhone 7 Plus with iOS 15.7.4 (="MRA-iPhone" for the motorbike).

                It's unbelievable, the iPhone 13 generates the correct announcement, the iPhone 7 generates the wrong (as described above) announcement.
                Has anyone else - apart from Jörgen - noticed such behaviour...?

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                Corjan Meijerink
                administrator
                wrote on 28 Mar 2023, 22:22 last edited by
                #7

                @Mopetenpit it might very well be an issue with the speech synthesis (OS based, as @Con-Hennekens also mentioned) and that it was solved in newer (current) iOS version 🙂

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                  28 Mar 2023, 22:22

                  @Mopetenpit it might very well be an issue with the speech synthesis (OS based, as @Con-Hennekens also mentioned) and that it was solved in newer (current) iOS version 🙂

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                  Mopetenpit
                  wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 04:19 last edited by
                  #8

                  @Corjan-Meijerink Yes, something like that will be the reason.

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                    28 Mar 2023, 22:22

                    @Mopetenpit it might very well be an issue with the speech synthesis (OS based, as @Con-Hennekens also mentioned) and that it was solved in newer (current) iOS version 🙂

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                    Con Hennekens
                    wrote on 29 Mar 2023, 07:38 last edited by
                    #9

                    @Corjan-Meijerink, Is the speech synthesis left to OS? I had not thought of that. I assumed it was embedded in the app itself.

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      27 Mar 2023, 11:55

                      Since "homograph" is a linguistic term, I think it is really plausible to assume it's coming from or has to do with the speech synthesis engin.

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                      Mopetenpit
                      wrote on 31 Mar 2023, 05:26 last edited by
                      #10

                      @Con-Hennekens said in announcement of the distances:

                      Since "homograph" is a linguistic term, I think it is really plausible to assume it's coming from or has to do with the speech synthesis engin.

                      @Jörgen was the problem fixed after an iOS update or after an MRA update?

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                        Jörgen
                        Instructor
                        wrote on 31 Mar 2023, 07:22 last edited by
                        #11

                        Yes, was gone after MRA Update.

                        https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/21136

                        It is really strange that it is still there, with latest version (I believe you are up-to-date). I have no idea what this change triggers. May be deinstall and try a new installation.

                        My iOS is 16,3,1 on iPhone X.

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                        iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                        Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                        Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                        Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                        Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
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                          Mopetenpit
                          wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 05:57 last edited by
                          #12

                          Now it's even better...
                          Since the last MRA update, the announcements from the iPhone 13 are also contaminated with "HomographStart" and "HomographEnd"! Except for Jörgen's entries, messages on this topic do not appear here. Am I the only one with this problem at the moment? It's actually unimaginable...

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                          • undefined Mopetenpit
                            19 Apr 2023, 05:57

                            Now it's even better...
                            Since the last MRA update, the announcements from the iPhone 13 are also contaminated with "HomographStart" and "HomographEnd"! Except for Jörgen's entries, messages on this topic do not appear here. Am I the only one with this problem at the moment? It's actually unimaginable...

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                            Herko ter Horst
                            wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 07:55 last edited by Herko ter Horst
                            #13

                            @Mopetenpit There seems to be a bug in Apple's Text To Speech (TTS) functionality as of iOS 15.6, specific to the German language. All apps that use TTS have the same issue, it's not related to MRA. This thread over on the Apple forums offers some work-arounds that may help.

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                            • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst
                              19 Apr 2023, 07:55

                              @Mopetenpit There seems to be a bug in Apple's Text To Speech (TTS) functionality as of iOS 15.6, specific to the German language. All apps that use TTS have the same issue, it's not related to MRA. This thread over on the Apple forums offers some work-arounds that may help.

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                              Mopetenpit
                              wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 08:33 last edited by
                              #14

                              @Herko-ter-Horst
                              Many thanks for info! I'll find out more about it...

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                              • Herko ter Horstundefined Herko ter Horst
                                19 Apr 2023, 07:55

                                @Mopetenpit There seems to be a bug in Apple's Text To Speech (TTS) functionality as of iOS 15.6, specific to the German language. All apps that use TTS have the same issue, it's not related to MRA. This thread over on the Apple forums offers some work-arounds that may help.

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                                Con Hennekens
                                wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 08:51 last edited by
                                #15

                                @Herko-ter-Horst, Good find!

                                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                  Jörgen
                                  Instructor
                                  wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 10:29 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  Very interesting, that this is an iOS bug. I would like to know why the problem is gone after an iOS update. I am not sure which update it was, but I have now 16.3.1

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                                  iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                                  Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                                  Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                                  Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                                  Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                                  For more information, click here

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                                    19 Apr 2023, 10:29

                                    Very interesting, that this is an iOS bug. I would like to know why the problem is gone after an iOS update. I am not sure which update it was, but I have now 16.3.1

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                                    wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 14:34 last edited by
                                    #17

                                    @Jörgen Maybe they fixed it in that update?

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                                      19 Apr 2023, 14:34

                                      @Jörgen Maybe they fixed it in that update?

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                                      wrote on 8 May 2023, 06:26 last edited by
                                      #18

                                      The "homograph" problem is not fixed for me, but I have a workaround: the iPhone (is only responsible for navigation) is now configured as an English iPhone. I receive the announcements in English and everything fits. Side effect: my English skills are refreshed... 😉

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                                      • undefined Mopetenpit
                                        8 May 2023, 06:26

                                        The "homograph" problem is not fixed for me, but I have a workaround: the iPhone (is only responsible for navigation) is now configured as an English iPhone. I receive the announcements in English and everything fits. Side effect: my English skills are refreshed... 😉

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                                        wrote on 6 Jun 2023, 05:36 last edited by
                                        #19

                                        fyi: on the subject of "homograph": I downloaded the beta of TomTom Go Ride onto my iPhone. Here, too, I get the "homograph announcement"...

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                                          6 Jun 2023, 05:36

                                          fyi: on the subject of "homograph": I downloaded the beta of TomTom Go Ride onto my iPhone. Here, too, I get the "homograph announcement"...

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                                          Corjan Meijerink
                                          administrator
                                          wrote on 6 Jun 2023, 06:35 last edited by
                                          #20

                                          @Mopetenpit Great - this really rules out any MRA related issue 🙂

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