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  • Anonymouseundefined Offline
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    Anonymouse
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    #1

    I am thinking of using MyRouteApp to lead a road trip with members of a classic car club - many of whom are non-technical and have never tried anything other than Google Maps.

    May I check a few things so i can bullet-proof this please:

    1. Once I've built the route in MRA and made it shareable for the group, I think they will each need a subscription to MRA Navigation next, but for this purpose do not need a subscription to MRA Route Planner. Correct?

    2. For MRA Navigation Next they can buy a subscription for one month, or use a 14-day trial. Or is there a referral code I should be offering?

    3. While I see there is functionality for Groups and Events, I don't think I need to use this for a plain one-off event (it would be simpler to just send them a sharing link rather than try to manage a list of logins/emails for all the users). Correct?

    4. I see there is an Invite Friends option but does that do anything other than email them a link to the MRA main page?

    5. Once they have the navigation app is there a very basic, very bulletproof introductory video and/or walkthrough that I should direct them to?

    Thanks.

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    • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Offline
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      Marinus van Deudekom
      RouteXpert
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      #2

      1, correct
      2 they can just use the shop on the website
      3 correct
      4 If they have an account they will get a message
      5 there's lots of videos and tturials the can watch

      Most important thing, have fun

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      Honda Silverwing GL 650
      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
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      Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

        1, correct
        2 they can just use the shop on the website
        3 correct
        4 If they have an account they will get a message
        5 there's lots of videos and tturials the can watch

        Most important thing, have fun

        Anonymouseundefined Offline
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        Anonymouse
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        #3

        @Marinus-van-Deudekom said:
        5 there's lots of videos and tturials the can watch

        yes - I would welcome recommendations - the ones I’ve found are not simple enough for my audience - they are mostly cluttered with info for people doing route planning or migrating from old versions. Is there one which just takes a recent version of the app and walks through the very simple task of navigating, without introducing unnecessary features or context?

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        • Hubert Thoringundefined Offline
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          Hubert Thoring
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          wrote last edited by Hubert Thoring
          #4

          @anonymouse

          Such an entry and then leading a group that has never used it is spontaneously not what works that way.

          • you have to deal with it with some countries

          • you also have to try a lot with the mobile phone, have understood the most important functions.

          In your case, I would advise against expecting this from the group, since it's all newcomers.

          Recommendation:

          1.) You should test it extensively yourself, i.e. the WebPlaner Gold and the Navi App MRA Next, both in the lifetime version.

          2.) Test time intensive approx. 4-6 weeks, after that you know if you want to lead the group as a guide.

          3.) then you can decide if it is also something for your group and you want to use the functions

          • Invite friends

          • Create group

          • Create event

          Everyone needs knowledge and preparation in dealing with the MyRouteApp and experience has shown that it takes quite some time until success is achieved in the long term.

          Attention:

          If you 1.) 2.) and 3.) if you don't pay attention, the whole thing will fail and it will end in frustration.

          VG 👋

          ——-

          So einen Einstieg und dann noch eine Gruppe führen die es noch nie genutzt hat ist spontan nicht das was so funktioniert.

          • man muss sich schon damit etwas länder damit auseinandersetzen
          • man muss auch einiges mit dem Handy ausprobieren , die wichtigsten Funktionen verstanden haben.

          Ich würde in deinem Fall davon abraten, der Gruppe, da alles Neueinsteiger, sowas zuzumuten.

          Empfelung:
          1.) Du solltest es selbst ausgiebig Testen, das heißt den WebPlaner Gold und die Navi App MRA Next, beides in der Lifetime Version.

          2.) Testzeit intensiv ca. 4-6 Wochen, danach weißt Du ob du damit die Gruppe als Guide damit führen willst.

          3.) danach kannst Du entscheiden ob es auch was für deine Gruppe ist und du die Funktionen nutzen willst

          • Freunde einladen
          • Gruppe erstellen
          • Veranstaltung erstellen

          Jedes braucht dazu Wissen und Vorbereitung im Umgang mit der MyRouteApp und Erfahrungsgemäß dauert das eine geraume Zeit bis sich der Erfolg auch langfristig einstellt.

          Achtung:
          Wenn Du 1.) 2.) und 3.) nicht beachtest wird das ganze scheitern und es endet in Frust.

          VG 👋

          VG Hubert
          Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
          iPad 9. Gen iOS 26.5.2/ iPhone 16e iOS 26.5/ Navi iPhone Xr iOS 18.7.9 / PC mit MS Win11 /❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️ Info zu MRA & Remotek One

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          • Anonymouseundefined Offline
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            #5

            (My apologies, I realised too late that this thread really belongs in the app section not the route planner section.)

            Warnings noted. But I have a lot of experience with the Route Planner and will NOT be getting any of the group members to use it - they will just use Navigation Next to follow my route for the day. They need no additional functionality - just navigate along the route. And as far as possible I will bullet-proof the route eg include enough waypoints to stop any "live" surprises, make sure the pins are precisely on the road etc.

            I do think we could (if it doesn't exist already) create a 5-10 minute tutorial which gives newbies all they need to follow a route, including a couple of "if you have pressed x then y will happen so do z to recover" (usually the skip-waypoint button in my experience). A focused tutorial that does not mention any of the route-editing facilities or other things they do not need.

            Has anyone made something like this?
            If not, I'd probably be willing to have a go if others in the forum are willing to review the details in my script before I record it.

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            • Jörgenundefined Offline
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              #6

              @anonymouse this should be in English?

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              Oukitel RT3 Pro (Andr. 14)
              Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
              Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
              MRA Workshops in Deutsch sind hier zu finden

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              • Anonymouseundefined Offline
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                Anonymouse
                wrote last edited by
                #7

                Yes, this audience will be english speakers.
                If I make something myself it could potentially be auto translated…

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                • Jörgenundefined Offline
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                  Jörgen
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                  #8

                  I am sure some people here will ckeck your script. ☝

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                  • Ewout Dundefined Offline
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                    Ewout D
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                    Make very sure everyone has the same app-settings.

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                    • Hubert Thoringundefined Offline
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                      Hubert Thoring
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                      @ewout-d , @anonymouse @marinus-van-deudekom @jörgen

                      And that's exactly why it will fail because many will simply not watch and listen properly, according to my experience.

                      1.) some think, quietly ahead, what does the

                      2.) some just drive after anyway, what should I do with it

                      3.) some know better

                      4.) some don't really know their own phone, ..

                      5.) etc.

                      So hope dies last, but even in a small group it goes wrong quickly, although it has been explained several times.

                      VG 👋

                      ——-

                      Und genau daran wird es scheitern weil viele einfach nicht richtig zusehen und zuhören werden, so meine Erfahrung dabei.

                      1.) einige denke, leise vor sich hin, was will der
                      2.) einige fahren sowieso nur hinter her, was soll ich damit
                      3.) einige wissen es besser
                      4.) einige kennen ihr eigenes Handy nicht wirklich, ..
                      5.) usw.

                      Also die Hoffnung stirbt zu letzt, aber das geht schon in einer kleinen Gruppe schnell schief, obwohl man es mehrfach erklärt hat.

                      VG 👋

                      VG Hubert
                      Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware .
                      iPad 9. Gen iOS 26.5.2/ iPhone 16e iOS 26.5/ Navi iPhone Xr iOS 18.7.9 / PC mit MS Win11 /❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️ Info zu MRA & Remotek One

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                      • Ewout Dundefined Offline
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                        I fully agree with you!

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                        • Anonymouseundefined Offline
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                          Well that's all a bit depressing 🙂
                          We will have convoys of eight cars so most people will just follow the one in front unless they get lost. (The main risk is separation when we hit red lights.)

                          Currently the car club uses Google Maps which is hopeless. Sure, everyone knows how to use it (a bit) ... but it reinvents routes arbitrarily. So if i can get just a few of the group using MRA the rest can follow.

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                            In any case, it's helpful to continuously share the lead rider's location with the rest of the group.

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