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  • Mzokkundefined Offline
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    #5

    I have one for Irish Photo Rally waypoints but I don't have enough privileges to upload it here.

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    • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

      Maybe someone with success, can sent me a csv file for testing.

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      Con Hennekens
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      wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
      #6

      @Jörgen, Found it!
      You need to swap lat/lon 😉
      The POI actually do import, on the other side of the globe... 😉
      (actually they don't, they are not valid coordinates)
      Try this:

      6.615499,51.225800,"Am Schulzentrum Kaarst","Forum"
      

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        #7

        Hi Con, you're a genius—how did you figure that out?
        I never would have guessed that.
        Why “Latitude, Longitude” in MRA?
        That's a bug in MRA, right?
        Google uses that format too—“Longitude, Latitude”

        By the way, my POIs where in the Arabian Sea, just off the coast of Somalia.
        I would never have found that.

        screenshot004.jpg

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        • BertMundefined Offline
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          #8

          This is the case already for a long time...
          It took me also some time to figure that one out.
          In my POI conversion tool I even made a special "MRA CSV export" to deal with this.
          I think it is by design as the GPX export is also the same

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          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #9

            Latitude / Longitude is the human friendly way.
            Longitude / Latitude is the mathematically correct way.

            This isn't a bug. It's a poor design choice perhaps from very long ago.
            But changing that now will cause more hassle than leaving it as is.

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            • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

              Hi Con, you're a genius—how did you figure that out?
              I never would have guessed that.
              Why “Latitude, Longitude” in MRA?
              That's a bug in MRA, right?
              Google uses that format too—“Longitude, Latitude”

              By the way, my POIs where in the Arabian Sea, just off the coast of Somalia.
              I would never have found that.

              screenshot004.jpg

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              wrote on last edited by
              #10

              @Jörgen, While I do not have a photographic memory whatsoever, I am a sucker for futile information... 😉 While testing your POI line I remembered an earlier conversation about this, that makes it less futile information 😉

              What your exercise reveals, is that CSV files are not the prefered way of exchanging POI (or anything really) because columns have no designation (top row with column names) and fields can be broken simply when they contain a , ...Why not use GPX instead?

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                Latitude / Longitude is the human friendly way.
                Longitude / Latitude is the mathematically correct way.

                This isn't a bug. It's a poor design choice perhaps from very long ago.
                But changing that now will cause more hassle than leaving it as is.

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                Jörgen
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                wrote on last edited by
                #11

                @Corjan-Meijerink said in Problems with DIY POI Files:

                Latitude / Longitude is the human friendly way.
                Longitude / Latitude is the mathematically correct way.

                This isn't a bug. It's a poor design choice perhaps from very long ago.
                But changing that now will cause more hassle than leaving it as is.

                Maybe this should be mentioned in the manual. 😊

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                  #12

                  By the way, I got the information from here:

                  https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/5496/poi-file-format/2?_=1775682028073

                  So therefore, it is also wrong and need to be changed.

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @Jörgen, While I do not have a photographic memory whatsoever, I am a sucker for futile information... 😉 While testing your POI line I remembered an earlier conversation about this, that makes it less futile information 😉

                    What your exercise reveals, is that CSV files are not the prefered way of exchanging POI (or anything really) because columns have no designation (top row with column names) and fields can be broken simply when they contain a , ...Why not use GPX instead?

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                    @Con-Hennekens said in Problems with DIY POI Files:

                    Why not use GPX instead?

                    Just wanted to add some addresses from Google Maps, via Excel, into MRA.
                    This was the quickest way without using extra tools.

                    Anyway, I know now how to.

                    Thanks!!!

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                    • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                      @Con-Hennekens said in Problems with DIY POI Files:

                      Why not use GPX instead?

                      Just wanted to add some addresses from Google Maps, via Excel, into MRA.
                      This was the quickest way without using extra tools.

                      Anyway, I know now how to.

                      Thanks!!!

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #14

                      @Jörgen if you had saved/exported a POI from MRA yopu could have inspected the file to get the format
                      60846afe-8378-4cf2-b3f4-6068f94d8bec-image.png

                      @Con-Hennekens CSV is the standard format for POI even MRA uses it to export 😉

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                      • Brian McGundefined Brian McG

                        @Jörgen if you had saved/exported a POI from MRA yopu could have inspected the file to get the format
                        60846afe-8378-4cf2-b3f4-6068f94d8bec-image.png

                        @Con-Hennekens CSV is the standard format for POI even MRA uses it to export 😉

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #15

                        @Brian-McG, MRA uses GPX too. My point is that fields in a CSV have no designation. In GPX (which is XML) they do.

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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