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  • Bryn Thomasundefined Bryn Thomas

    @Ralph-Janssen I have tried wiring the QL charger directly to the battery and it does seem to punch out more power . A bit worried about the fuse situation there though .

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    @Bryn-Thomas
    What about the fuse?
    The QL 12V charger (with the 3 position switch) does have 3A fuse and some other protections.
    So I don't see a problem to connect it directly to the battery

    Triumph Tiger 800 Xrt 2020
    Yamaha tracer 700 (wifes bike)
    Using MRA next on Samsung A35 & OnePlus & DooGee T20 mini tablet

    Drove a Yamaha TDM850 1998
    Used TomTom 6000 & Garmin devices with MRA

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    • Ralph Janssenundefined Ralph Janssen

      @Bryn-Thomas
      What about the fuse?
      The QL 12V charger (with the 3 position switch) does have 3A fuse and some other protections.
      So I don't see a problem to connect it directly to the battery

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      #13

      @Ralph-Janssen You are talking about the 12v to USB Smart adaptor. I am talking about the USB Charger . There is no 3 way switch .

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        @Bryn-Thomas
        The second one os a bit newer then the one above. I did not now there where more then one charger. And it does not look like it has a fuse.
        And indeed, the first one I have on my bike.

        What I read about the USB charger you use;
        Quick Charge 2.0 (5V-2A, 9V-1.67A, 12V-1.5A)
        So, if I'm correct, most smartphone charge with a 5 volt so it can only deliver 10W on the 5V and that is not a lot.
        (I did not do a complete research so maybe iPhones can charge with 9v or 12v)
        10W is probably not enough for using MRA next.
        And of course your cable from the charger to the phone is important as well.

        The charger I use (with the 3 way switch) has a 5v -3a = 15W output.
        And that seems enough to charge the phone while using MRA next.

        The first thing you can try is changing your USB charging cable to see if that is the problem.
        Otherwise you can try to buy the other QL charger. Then your are fully protected.

        Triumph Tiger 800 Xrt 2020
        Yamaha tracer 700 (wifes bike)
        Using MRA next on Samsung A35 & OnePlus & DooGee T20 mini tablet

        Drove a Yamaha TDM850 1998
        Used TomTom 6000 & Garmin devices with MRA

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        • Ralph Janssenundefined Ralph Janssen

          @Bryn-Thomas
          The second one os a bit newer then the one above. I did not now there where more then one charger. And it does not look like it has a fuse.
          And indeed, the first one I have on my bike.

          What I read about the USB charger you use;
          Quick Charge 2.0 (5V-2A, 9V-1.67A, 12V-1.5A)
          So, if I'm correct, most smartphone charge with a 5 volt so it can only deliver 10W on the 5V and that is not a lot.
          (I did not do a complete research so maybe iPhones can charge with 9v or 12v)
          10W is probably not enough for using MRA next.
          And of course your cable from the charger to the phone is important as well.

          The charger I use (with the 3 way switch) has a 5v -3a = 15W output.
          And that seems enough to charge the phone while using MRA next.

          The first thing you can try is changing your USB charging cable to see if that is the problem.
          Otherwise you can try to buy the other QL charger. Then your are fully protected.

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          @Ralph-Janssen Hi Ralph, thanks so much for taking the time to help me with this. It all makes a lot of sense and I have been told that the QL charger is a bit gutless. I am 75 years of age and enjoy my biking and touring and I enjoy using MRA but this power usage thing has become a bit boring. Nice to get an informative answer rather than been told I have it all wrong and I shouldn't make broad statements. etc .
          Incidentally, I have just toured South Africa with friends from Canada and the UK and they all had issues with power falloff. ( quite a broad statement ). I believe I have found a workaround as I would like to keep using MRA. I was just sharing what is working for me. regards.

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          • M. Schrijverundefined Online
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            MRA is still power hungry but it is not as bad as it used to be.
            Today i've tried OSMAnd for the first time. This one is also power hungry. Looks similiar to MRA.

            Quad Lock has multiple wireless chargers.
            One is connected to a usb socket and the other is connected direclty to a 12v source. The last one can charge with higher power.

            I use a Pixel 6a. This one always charge slow (no wireless). But still fast enough to keep the battery full.
            With MRA as the only app running, the battery stays full. when i play music also, the battery usage is a bit higher than charging. I will loose 1-2% per hour. Some other apps do a better job. But this situation will give me no problems during a day.
            So, i'm not complaining but it still can be improved.

            (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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            • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

              MRA is still power hungry but it is not as bad as it used to be.
              Today i've tried OSMAnd for the first time. This one is also power hungry. Looks similiar to MRA.

              Quad Lock has multiple wireless chargers.
              One is connected to a usb socket and the other is connected direclty to a 12v source. The last one can charge with higher power.

              I use a Pixel 6a. This one always charge slow (no wireless). But still fast enough to keep the battery full.
              With MRA as the only app running, the battery stays full. when i play music also, the battery usage is a bit higher than charging. I will loose 1-2% per hour. Some other apps do a better job. But this situation will give me no problems during a day.
              So, i'm not complaining but it still can be improved.

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              @M-Schrijver said in Power hungry:

              Today i've tried OSMAnd for the first time. This one is also power hungry.

              Maybe you have a problem with your phone, but I use Osmand when MyRouteApp does not do what is supposed to, i have it on my Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13, but I have no power draining issues ! The device even stays cool while using Osmand in comparison with MRA and drops about 7% battery life per hour.
              You should check if other apps are using your location while driving, maybe that's why your battery life is draining faster !

              Best regards,
              Adrian

              Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13 with Android Auto / CarPlay
              MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
              Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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                #18

                Flitsemeister is always running at the background. No matter app what i use.
                With MRA and OSMAnd, there is little drainage.
                With Google Maps, Waze and TomTom Go there is no drainage. Phone is even charged a bit when using one of these apps.

                (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

                  @M-Schrijver said in Power hungry:

                  Today i've tried OSMAnd for the first time. This one is also power hungry.

                  Maybe you have a problem with your phone, but I use Osmand when MyRouteApp does not do what is supposed to, i have it on my Samsung S24 Ultra and iPhone 13, but I have no power draining issues ! The device even stays cool while using Osmand in comparison with MRA and drops about 7% battery life per hour.
                  You should check if other apps are using your location while driving, maybe that's why your battery life is draining faster !

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                  @Adrian-Avram Thanks Adrian - will check.

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                    iPhones don't charge near as fast as Android. I think this is a factor. My Oneplus 12 comes with a 100w charger and using MRA and listening to music it still gains charge at a good rate. Make sure you have a genuine fast charger usb c port and a fast charging cable.

                    I don't have QL wireless because even on my phone on a main wireless charger you can't get more than 15-20w. So I guess it's the same on the bike. Much slower than a fast charger and cable. Good luck 🀞🏼 🍻

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                    • JP dundefined JP d

                      iPhones don't charge near as fast as Android. I think this is a factor. My Oneplus 12 comes with a 100w charger and using MRA and listening to music it still gains charge at a good rate. Make sure you have a genuine fast charger usb c port and a fast charging cable.

                      I don't have QL wireless because even on my phone on a main wireless charger you can't get more than 15-20w. So I guess it's the same on the bike. Much slower than a fast charger and cable. Good luck 🀞🏼 🍻

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                      @JP-d thanks - good to know . As I have said I think I have found the solution by supplementing the QL wireless option with a charger plugged into my 12v socket . It just means I have to monitor my phone usage and make choices at coffee stops . All part of the fun .
                      I like MRA and use it all the time now .

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