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  • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

    @Corjan-Meijerink :

    Sorry, the problems listed for the V4.2.0 ( 320 ) were not fixed for offline in the ( 321 ) ... so testing is no longer fun!

    • Routes / track names cannot be distinguished in the download

    • Track navigation is not possible offline

    • etc.

    What was done from 320 to 321 ❓

    See detailed test [320]
    (https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/7340/v4-2-0-320-test)

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    Corjan Meijerink
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    wrote on last edited by
    #3

    @Hubert-Thoring no longer fun? Sorry?
    It’s not that all items someone lists are immediately all processed 😉

    The major issue in 320 was that being fully offline was not working as expected. The entire downloads / offline availability of is being restructured for the next update.
    Track navigation never worked offline ever, that’s not supported due to technical limitations 🙂

    I honestly believe this is a great upcoming update 🎉

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    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

      Good evening! 😃

      The definitive build (321) for the 4.2.0 release is coming your way now.
      We fixed issues in the full offline routeplanning environment. An example of this was that you could not place a waypoint 😉

      This version is going to release and will be available to the public somewhere later this week.

      Best,
      Corjan

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      wrote on last edited by
      #4

      @Hubert-Thoring, the last few versions were dedicated to the new offline in app planner, and not to the known things you keep bringing up but have less priority. The effort put in is likely beyond your imagination. Of course it is no fun if you keep testing things that were not changed. If you feel it's no fun, feel free quit with it.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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      • Nick Carthewundefined Offline
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        Nick Carthew
        RouteXperts Instructor
        wrote on last edited by
        #5

        Hi @Corjan-Meijerink I have just noticed that the map on the opening page does not zoom back to your current location when you tap the position marker. It also does not go into follow me mode.

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        Always willing to help if I can.
        Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
        MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
        Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
        Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
        TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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        • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

          Hi @Corjan-Meijerink I have just noticed that the map on the opening page does not zoom back to your current location when you tap the position marker. It also does not go into follow me mode.

          a73718b2-fdee-49ec-96dd-4039a8119c27-image.png

          ad81d275-e82b-4aae-84fb-f20e8e42b8bf-image.png

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          Corjan Meijerink
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          wrote on last edited by
          #6

          @Nick-Carthew correct, only for cycling this works.
          Very underused in our opinion and leading to people saying “this isn’t navigation” 😉

          This was a legacy mobile app driving mode and with Navigation Next there, we prefer them using that. How did you notice so fast?

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          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

            @Nick-Carthew correct, only for cycling this works.
            Very underused in our opinion and leading to people saying “this isn’t navigation” 😉

            This was a legacy mobile app driving mode and with Navigation Next there, we prefer them using that. How did you notice so fast?

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            RouteXperts Instructor
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            @Corjan-Meijerink They don’t call me speedy for no reason 😂

            Always willing to help if I can.
            Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
            MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
            Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
            Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
            TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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            • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

              @Corjan-Meijerink They don’t call me speedy for no reason 😂

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              wrote on last edited by
              #8

              @Nick-Carthew, I don't understand what you mean. Corjan does, so something seems to have changed here, but for me it zooms in to my current location just fine...

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                @Nick-Carthew, I don't understand what you mean. Corjan does, so something seems to have changed here, but for me it zooms in to my current location just fine...

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                Nick Carthew
                RouteXperts Instructor
                wrote on last edited by Nick Carthew
                #9

                @Con-Hennekens Does it zoom in close to your location when you are zoomed out from afar like in my screenshots?
                I am sure it used to.
                I am also sure that the follow the line option was available without having a walking or cycling route loaded.
                (I do hope that I’m not going mad 🤪)

                If I am zoomed in close away from my location and I tap the position marker it will return me to my location at the same zoom level. For example if I am zoomed in close looking at Zoetermeer and tap the position marker I am returned to my current location at the same zoom level.

                The position marker seems to just centre your position at what level of zoom you are using, whereas before I am sure that a second tap zoomed you in to your location.

                Always willing to help if I can.
                Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                  @Con-Hennekens Does it zoom in close to your location when you are zoomed out from afar like in my screenshots?
                  I am sure it used to.
                  I am also sure that the follow the line option was available without having a walking or cycling route loaded.
                  (I do hope that I’m not going mad 🤪)

                  If I am zoomed in close away from my location and I tap the position marker it will return me to my location at the same zoom level. For example if I am zoomed in close looking at Zoetermeer and tap the position marker I am returned to my current location at the same zoom level.

                  The position marker seems to just centre your position at what level of zoom you are using, whereas before I am sure that a second tap zoomed you in to your location.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #10

                  @Nick-Carthew, Ah, now I see what you mean... No it centers to, but does not zoom into the location indeed.

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                  • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                    @Nick-Carthew, I don't understand what you mean. Corjan does, so something seems to have changed here, but for me it zooms in to my current location just fine...

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                    Corjan Meijerink
                    administrator
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #11

                    @Con-Hennekens and that is why we made the change. Most won’t notice 🙂

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                    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                      @Hubert-Thoring no longer fun? Sorry?
                      It’s not that all items someone lists are immediately all processed 😉

                      The major issue in 320 was that being fully offline was not working as expected. The entire downloads / offline availability of is being restructured for the next update.
                      Track navigation never worked offline ever, that’s not supported due to technical limitations 🙂

                      I honestly believe this is a great upcoming update 🎉

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #12

                      @Corjan-Meijerink :
                      @Con-Hennekens :

                      Corjan sorry, what is when and how turn or the track does not go offline should then be communicated better. That's what I don't know.

                      Note:

                      Even in the current update for all users, there should be no possibility at all to get into a wrong state that ends with error messages. That scares new users off, doesn't it?

                      Good luck in the future 👋

                      VG Hubert
                      Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
                      iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
                      ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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                      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                        @Con-Hennekens and that is why we made the change. Most won’t notice 🙂

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #13

                        @Corjan-Meijerink

                        Android 4.2.0 - 321 is now available. 👍

                        You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                        • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                          @Corjan-Meijerink :
                          @Con-Hennekens :

                          Corjan sorry, what is when and how turn or the track does not go offline should then be communicated better. That's what I don't know.

                          Note:

                          Even in the current update for all users, there should be no possibility at all to get into a wrong state that ends with error messages. That scares new users off, doesn't it?

                          Good luck in the future 👋

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                          #14

                          @Hubert-Thoring, You are writing riddles... And what is that about a wrong state?

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                            @Hubert-Thoring, You are writing riddles... And what is that about a wrong state?

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                            #15

                            So mal ohne Übersetzer:

                            Corjan tut mir leid, was wann und wie geht, und das der Track nicht offline geht, sollte dann besser kommuniziert werden. Das war mir so nicht bekannt.

                            Hinweis:

                            Selbst im aktuellen Update für alle Benutzer sollte es überhaupt keine Möglichkeit geben, in einen falschen Zustand zu geraten, der mit Fehlermeldungen endet. Das schreckt neue Benutzer doch ab oder ?

                            Viel Glück in der Zukunft!

                            VG Hubert
                            Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
                            iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
                            ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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                              #16

                              Very nice and welcome update. For a future update please consider the following:

                              • an option to select a different map style. With current map is hard to see the different road types

                              • make an option to save the default route options. I never use dirt roads and hardly use highways. Now I have to select them again for every new route. BTW, this is the same on the website.

                              • Is routing based on the Here maps or on the OpenStreet maps.

                              • Add an option to select curvy roads

                              Thanks again for the great work.

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                              • Jaap van Maanenundefined Jaap van Maanen

                                Very nice and welcome update. For a future update please consider the following:

                                • an option to select a different map style. With current map is hard to see the different road types

                                • make an option to save the default route options. I never use dirt roads and hardly use highways. Now I have to select them again for every new route. BTW, this is the same on the website.

                                • Is routing based on the Here maps or on the OpenStreet maps.

                                • Add an option to select curvy roads

                                Thanks again for the great work.

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                                Stefan Hummelink
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #17

                                @Jaap-van-Maanen said in Updated beta v4.2.0 (321):

                                Here

                                Based on HERE since those are the maps you download for offline usage, and the nav engine uses HERE SDK.

                                Manks bu'j te bange.

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                                • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                                  So mal ohne Übersetzer:

                                  Corjan tut mir leid, was wann und wie geht, und das der Track nicht offline geht, sollte dann besser kommuniziert werden. Das war mir so nicht bekannt.

                                  Hinweis:

                                  Selbst im aktuellen Update für alle Benutzer sollte es überhaupt keine Möglichkeit geben, in einen falschen Zustand zu geraten, der mit Fehlermeldungen endet. Das schreckt neue Benutzer doch ab oder ?

                                  Viel Glück in der Zukunft!

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                                  Con Hennekens
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #18

                                  @Hubert-Thoring, I can only conclude that your reply holds no relevance to the topic you are replying on.

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                  • Jaap van Maanenundefined Jaap van Maanen

                                    Very nice and welcome update. For a future update please consider the following:

                                    • an option to select a different map style. With current map is hard to see the different road types

                                    • make an option to save the default route options. I never use dirt roads and hardly use highways. Now I have to select them again for every new route. BTW, this is the same on the website.

                                    • Is routing based on the Here maps or on the OpenStreet maps.

                                    • Add an option to select curvy roads

                                    Thanks again for the great work.

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                                    #19

                                    @Jaap-van-Maanen said in Updated beta v4.2.0 (321):

                                    • an option to select a different map style. With current map is hard to see the different road types

                                    Yes, map layers would be welcome. But I don't think the app is intended as a replacement of the full featured web planner. Not all functions will find a place in the app planner.

                                    • Is routing based on the Here maps or on the OpenStreet maps.

                                    Routing is based on the HERE map indeed. The app planner uses the same SDK as the navigation module does. Hence you will find ONLY the here map in the app planner, and you need a Navigation licence.

                                    • Add an option to select curvy roads

                                    HERE does not offer that feature (yet). In the roundtrip feature this is mitigated by using OSM for generating the curvy route and feed it to the routing engine as a track. Within the HERE planner it is not possible to do the same trick.

                                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                      @Jaap-van-Maanen said in Updated beta v4.2.0 (321):

                                      • an option to select a different map style. With current map is hard to see the different road types

                                      Yes, map layers would be welcome. But I don't think the app is intended as a replacement of the full featured web planner. Not all functions will find a place in the app planner.

                                      • Is routing based on the Here maps or on the OpenStreet maps.

                                      Routing is based on the HERE map indeed. The app planner uses the same SDK as the navigation module does. Hence you will find ONLY the here map in the app planner, and you need a Navigation licence.

                                      • Add an option to select curvy roads

                                      HERE does not offer that feature (yet). In the roundtrip feature this is mitigated by using OSM for generating the curvy route and feed it to the routing engine as a track. Within the HERE planner it is not possible to do the same trick.

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                                      @Corjan-Meijerink : Einfach noch mal vielen vielen Dank für die Tolle App 👋 bin begeistert jeden Tag wenn ich die App am Motorrad nutzen darf.

                                      Das Update auf V 4.2.0 ist eine tolle Leistung, Dankeschön 🙏 dafür ❗️

                                      VG Hubert
                                      Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
                                      iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
                                      ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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                                      • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                                        @Corjan-Meijerink : Einfach noch mal vielen vielen Dank für die Tolle App 👋 bin begeistert jeden Tag wenn ich die App am Motorrad nutzen darf.

                                        Das Update auf V 4.2.0 ist eine tolle Leistung, Dankeschön 🙏 dafür ❗️

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                                        @Hubert-Thoring nice to hear that! 🙂

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