Crashing when initiating or ending route and using barbuttons

Kevin Buckley

I have the bar buttons that connect to my iPhone and allow me to move the map, skip waypoints and zoom in and out as I ride. They are a great addition to the app.

One problem, If they are connected to my phone via Bluetooth and I try to start or end navigation the app crashes every time.

What I have done is added a switch to the bar buttons so I can first start the route on my phone and then turn on the bar buttons so they connect. If I follow that sequence it all works well.

What would be wonderful is if the navigation could start and end while connected to the bar buttons so that I can simplify my set up.

I am using an iPhone 15 pro max and the latest update of the navigation app.

K
Thanks for all of your work, the app is really the best navigation tool on the market!

Con Hennekens

@Kevin-Buckley, I have a BarButtons too, but don't use it much. I know for a fact that this problem was non existing in some earlier versions, but I haven't been using them lately. I will try to reproduce tonight.

Jörgen

Hi, I saw a similar issue with my Oukitel tablet and the Motobuttons (a Bluetooth controler same as BarButtons).
When the power of the Motorbuttons is switched off, MRA hangs and need a new start with total "end App" before. Same happens if MRA ist runing and Motorbuttons is switched on.
You need to make sure, that the power is on before MRA starts and power is swiched of after MRA is stopped.
I have no idea what this causes, because the Motorbuttons are implemented in the Android system as a keyboard. When I use a BT keyboard, there is no problem.

@kevin try to use a BT keyboard and see what happens.

Con Hennekens

@Jörgen, I have not experienced that before. But what I do experience is that after pairing the connection works fine, but after a power down of the BB it will not reconnect unless deleted from the bluetooth settings, and paired again...

Jörgen

I bought a BarButton PCB and will build that controller in the net month to see which on is better.
May be I can report how it works.
Because of the obove issues I tought about a modified keyboard as controller, you only need to send some keyboard commands (like C, N, D, etc.)

Kevin Buckley

@Jörgen I will try with a Bluetooth keyboard and see if that makes a difference… it is interesting that my issues are different than yours. I have to be sure that power to the bar buttons are powered off before I start or end a route. The bar buttons do connect and disconnect from the phone easily as often as I want them to.

Con Hennekens

@Kevin-Buckley, As promised I have been trying to reproduce your experience. I can only say it works as intended (except for the reconnect problem explained earlier) and I experienced no problems, no crash, and I could start the app and navigate menus as usual, without a crash.

Kevin Buckley

@Con-Hennekens thank you for checking. What device are you using? I wonder if it’s unique to my phone or a certain model of iPhone. I do have a work around so it’s not preventing g me from using the app or the buttons, just one extra small step.

Con Hennekens

@Kevin-Buckley, My Phone is a CAT S52, and the original BarButtons, from before the PCB version (but that don't change anything).

Hubert Thoring

@Kevin-Buckley Hey look, I currently have the same behavior with a Remotek-One (7.2024) and I'm surprised that it was / is the same with you.

@Corjan-Meijerink : Is the coincidence that it also shows such behavior with this BT keyboard from @Kevin-Buckley.

Remotek-One Klick

Baltus

@Jörgen Hi everyone, I am amazed at what I read here. I just got back from a 26 day motorcycle trip to Spain and Portugal. I used my DIY BarButtons keyboard. And... I really had 0.0 problems. I paired the keyboard once. I also just tried it again. I put power on the BB, blinked a bit and the LED went out again. The bt button on the settings then says BarButtons. When I then turn on my packtalk bold, the text changes to Bluetooth. It makes no difference to the operation whether I first pair the BarButtons and then the Cardo Packtalk or vice versa. The phone I had on the trip was my Oukitel WP23. I just tried everything with my Moto G30. It makes no difference.

Jörgen

@Baltus You're right, the BarButtons don't have this problem.
I am just finished my DIY BarButtons and tested it.

Jörgen

My current version.

How can we get Joost to answer easy questions by mail?

Herko ter Horst

This post is deleted!

Con Hennekens

Short statement about Joost Bijl from BarButtons:
https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/50804