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  • Drabslabundefined Drabslab

    @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

    @Drabslab 30 liter.

    I do 4.5l / 100km on cruise control @ 100 kph.
    That's not however my average driving style 😉

    But let's say that 450km is a very safe distance for me to ride without planning a fuel stop!

    blimy, my KTM needs 5.6 liters per 100km with my average driving style. With a full tank, the dashboard claims that I can do 390km but that never happens

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    @Drabslab Nice, My Street Triple manages only 230 km or so before the light comes on. It might me my driving style. 😋

    Manks bu'j te bange.

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    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

      @Marinus-van-Deudekom I've changed the configuration to show up to 750m before the exit.

      Lane information should have been displayed in Android Auto! 🙂
      Fuel stops on your route are not suggested by Android Auto, only within the app itself.

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      Marinus van Deudekom
      RouteXperts
      wrote on last edited by
      #65

      @Corjan-Meijerink thnkx Corjan. The lane assist was not visible on the radio. At least not in the way it was on my phone

      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
      Honda Silverwing GL 650
      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
      Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
      Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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      • Flat Twin Therapyundefined Offline
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        #66

        Impressive results in these new releases!
        Congratulations!!

        Can you please share a bit more on the battery issue on Android? I do know you're working on this with Here, but in the last months every beta release I was hoping for a fix, bit everytime I read the same: next - investigating battery issues with Here ...

        A navigation app with battery issues is really not handy.. I keep needing to use Waze as a backup for the longer rides.
        hope a fix is close by. Can you share your thoughts on this?

        Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
        https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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        • Flat Twin Therapyundefined Flat Twin Therapy

          Impressive results in these new releases!
          Congratulations!!

          Can you please share a bit more on the battery issue on Android? I do know you're working on this with Here, but in the last months every beta release I was hoping for a fix, bit everytime I read the same: next - investigating battery issues with Here ...

          A navigation app with battery issues is really not handy.. I keep needing to use Waze as a backup for the longer rides.
          hope a fix is close by. Can you share your thoughts on this?

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          wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
          #67

          @Rolf-Aalders

          I guess this is a hard one for the Dev’s due to the multiplicity of Android Devices being used.
          Personally I have never had any issues on my Samsung S21+.
          It always gives me a positive increase whatever the battery is at currently.
          I never login to the Samsung account on this phone as I suspect that all those Bixby routines running in the background would have a detrimental affect for MRA Next.

          You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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          • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

            @Rolf-Aalders

            I guess this is a hard one for the Dev’s due to the multiplicity of Android Devices being used.
            Personally I have never had any issues on my Samsung S21+.
            It always gives me a positive increase whatever the battery is at currently.
            I never login to the Samsung account on this phone as I suspect that all those Bixby routines running in the background would have a detrimental affect for MRA Next.

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            wrote on last edited by
            #68

            @Lynchy67 yeah, I agree. This is tough. Waze, Google maps, Here, Locus maps and even Komoot all give my phone a positive charge.... So it is possible.
            I prefer MRA, but cannot use it for navigation >60m due to battery drain.

            Actually, only negative charge when navigating (so locus maps should not be listed here).
            Using MRA to just track my rides does give a position charge.

            Hoping on a fix 🙂
            If I can help in any way (sharing logs, special or debuggable build, etc) please let me know.

            Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
            https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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              Jörgen
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              wrote on last edited by Jörgen
              #69

              How do you activate the POIs to see them in navigation?

              POI support
              Finally 😃 A feature that should have been there since day one!
              The POI's that you've added in the Routeplanner are now displayed in the app too. While navigating, you can add this POI to your route by long pressing it.

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              • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                How do you activate the POIs to see them in navigation?

                POI support
                Finally 😃 A feature that should have been there since day one!
                The POI's that you've added in the Routeplanner are now displayed in the app too. While navigating, you can add this POI to your route by long pressing it.

                9ad24389-beea-42b9-854e-aac5f0ee8f4e-image.png

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                Corjan Meijerink
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                wrote on last edited by
                #70

                @Jörgen Exactly as described 😉
                You only see the POI's added in the Routeplanner.
                After that, if you want to actively navigate to it, long press the POI.

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                • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                  How do you activate the POIs to see them in navigation?

                  POI support
                  Finally 😃 A feature that should have been there since day one!
                  The POI's that you've added in the Routeplanner are now displayed in the app too. While navigating, you can add this POI to your route by long pressing it.

                  9ad24389-beea-42b9-854e-aac5f0ee8f4e-image.png

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                  Con Hennekens
                  wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
                  #71

                  @Jörgen, on the planning map, enable a POI category. If you see a POI on the map, click it and click this symbol to add it to your route:

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                  Add it as a POI (adding it as a waypoint immediately routes through it) in the next window.

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                  This POI will be visible while driving the route, and by long-pressing it you can add it to the route.

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                  Now you can add multiple possible lunch spots as POI to your route, and choose the most convenient one during your ride.

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #72

                    👫 sometimes you have to take me by the hand 🙄

                    Thank you!

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                    • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                      👫 sometimes you have to take me by the hand 🙄

                      Thank you!

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #73

                      @Jörgen, you are welcome. Educational for many I think 😉

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                      • Jörgenundefined Jörgen

                        👫 sometimes you have to take me by the hand 🙄

                        Thank you!

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                        RouteXperts Instructor
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                        #74

                        @Jörgen There could be a problem if you choose to navigate to a POI. Your example above @Con-Hennekens highlights my point exactly. Many POIs are not positioned on the road so this could cause problems. Better to add a new route point that is correctly positioned.

                        Always willing to help if I can.
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                        • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                          @Jörgen There could be a problem if you choose to navigate to a POI. Your example above @Con-Hennekens highlights my point exactly. Many POIs are not positioned on the road so this could cause problems. Better to add a new route point that is correctly positioned.

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                          wrote on last edited by
                          #75

                          @Nick-Carthew, entirely true! Corjan foresaw that too, and made pressing somewhere on the chart (the place where you are likely to park) as easy as pressing the POI itself 😉

                          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                          • Nick Carthewundefined Nick Carthew

                            @Jörgen There could be a problem if you choose to navigate to a POI. Your example above @Con-Hennekens highlights my point exactly. Many POIs are not positioned on the road so this could cause problems. Better to add a new route point that is correctly positioned.

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                            @Nick-Carthew I combine the best of both worlds: When we assume a lunch stop, I place a POI just as @Con-Hennekens does. Then, I add a viapoint (with the appropriate pause-icon) just before it and name that point after the stop. I might include some brief explanations in the notes. Additionally, within 2000 meters of that waypoint, I add a shapingpoint to ensure I receive voice instructions.

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                            iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                            Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
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                            • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                              @Nick-Carthew I combine the best of both worlds: When we assume a lunch stop, I place a POI just as @Con-Hennekens does. Then, I add a viapoint (with the appropriate pause-icon) just before it and name that point after the stop. I might include some brief explanations in the notes. Additionally, within 2000 meters of that waypoint, I add a shapingpoint to ensure I receive voice instructions.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #77

                              @Rob-Verhoeff, that's great for certain stops. Often where you lunch (example) will be dependent on how your tour is getting on (some are quicker than others or you needed to fix a puncture or some other unplanned stops). Then it is nice to have multiple POI for lunch along the route, but you do not want to visit all of them. The new feature shows them on the map, but does not route to them before you explicitly choose one.

                              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                @Rob-Verhoeff, that's great for certain stops. Often where you lunch (example) will be dependent on how your tour is getting on (some are quicker than others or you needed to fix a puncture or some other unplanned stops). Then it is nice to have multiple POI for lunch along the route, but you do not want to visit all of them. The new feature shows them on the map, but does not route to them before you explicitly choose one.

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                                Rob Verhoeff
                                wrote on last edited by Rob Verhoeff
                                #78

                                @Con-Hennekens said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                                The new feature

                                Not yet between my ears... And as far as flat tires are concerned... I've never experienced it in the 40 years that I've been driving 🤞

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                                iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                                Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                                Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

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                                  #79

                                  @Rob-Verhoeff said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                                  @Con-Hennekens said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                                  The new feature

                                  And as far as flat tires are concerned... I've never experienced it in the 40 years that I've been driving 🤞

                                  You are one lucky lucky man, and I want to ride in your tyre tracks forever. 🤡

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                                  • richtea999undefined richtea999

                                    @Rob-Verhoeff said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                                    @Con-Hennekens said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                                    The new feature

                                    And as far as flat tires are concerned... I've never experienced it in the 40 years that I've been driving 🤞

                                    You are one lucky lucky man, and I want to ride in your tyre tracks forever. 🤡

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                                    Rob Verhoeff
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                                    @richtea999 said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                                    You are one lucky lucky man, and I want to ride in your tyre tracks forever.

                                    You're welcome 😁 I have a brand new repairset stashed in my bike. I think it's 5 years old. Never opened it since. Ofcourse I no how to use it. Tried that a copple of years ago too.

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                                    iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                                    Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
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                                    • richtea999undefined richtea999

                                      @Rob-Verhoeff said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                                      @Con-Hennekens said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                                      The new feature

                                      And as far as flat tires are concerned... I've never experienced it in the 40 years that I've been driving 🤞

                                      You are one lucky lucky man, and I want to ride in your tyre tracks forever. 🤡

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                                      @richtea999 said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                                      You are one lucky lucky man, and I want to ride in your tyre tracks forever.

                                      You will be catching the nails @Rob-Verhoeff misses... 😉

                                      @Rob-Verhoeff said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                                      I have a brand new repairset stashed in my bike. I think it's 5 years old.

                                      Those bacon strips will probably be too dry by now.

                                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                        @richtea999 said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                                        You are one lucky lucky man, and I want to ride in your tyre tracks forever.

                                        You will be catching the nails @Rob-Verhoeff misses... 😉

                                        @Rob-Verhoeff said in New Beta! (v4.0.5):

                                        I have a brand new repairset stashed in my bike. I think it's 5 years old.

                                        Those bacon strips will probably be too dry by now.

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                                        @Con-Hennekens

                                        You will be catching the nails @Rob-Verhoeff misses... 😉

                                        😁

                                        Those bacon strips will probably be too dry by now.

                                        I give you a call when I need a fresh one 🙃

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                                        iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
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                                        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                          Ladies and gentlemen! We are back 🎉

                                          A month after our last Beta update, it's time for a new one.
                                          Yes, it has been a slightly longer wait than we anticipated but it's gonna be a nice one! Delay was caused due to some development issues / obstacles, illness and vacation.

                                          The 4.0.5 beta will become available later this week - before the weekend.

                                          This update does however contain so much new features and improvements that by time you are halfway reading this post, you've already forgotten the time you had to wait 😉

                                          CarPlay & Android Auto improvements

                                          As promised, we would keep working on the CP / AA module.
                                          We've done that!

                                          We now show:

                                          • Speedlimit
                                          • Current speed
                                          • Lane assistance
                                          • Camera / Truck warnings

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                                          From CP / AA you can now also:

                                          • Change route avoid options
                                          • Search for stops along your route
                                          • Skip waypoints

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                                          render_cp_search.png

                                          Amazing right? 🎉 With this update we believe that CarPlay & Android Auto finally get the level it deserves.

                                          Nearby fuel stops

                                          The app will actively suggest an efficient nearby fuel stop on your route - from MRA with ❤ This is displayed instead of the next instruction and we've increased the size of this element 😉

                                          render_fuel.png

                                          Tapping the icon will add the fuel stop to your route, keeping your original route as intended. If you want to turn this off, you can do so from the functional settings.

                                          Note: skipping extra stops, will not skip them but totally remove them from your route. Keeping your original waypoint count as planned.

                                          Search for stop while navigating

                                          Besides the nearby fuel suggestions, you can also search yourself!
                                          Exactly the same search functionality as you are used to is available while navigating. Simply open the menu and search for a stop 🎉

                                          render_search.png

                                          As with nearby fuel stops, the search results are added efficiently along your route.

                                          Note: skipping extra stops, will not skip them but totally remove them from your route. Keeping your original waypoint count as planned.

                                          Custom tilt level

                                          Do you prefer more horizon? Of less?
                                          A discussion of the past! 🙂 You can now choose your own tilt level from the map configuration settings.

                                          render_tilt.gif

                                          Fixed issues

                                          • Motorhome not allowed to use highway when avoiding toll
                                          • Better position accuracy on (older, mostly Android) devices
                                          • Logic to when detailed lane assist should kick in
                                          • CarPlay showing multiple position indicators after switching between apps
                                          • CarPlay iconsize next maneuver very small
                                          • GPX files not opening with the app
                                          • Incorrect distances shown to the next maneuver
                                          • General stability improvements

                                          Minor features

                                          • CP / AA: Now includes translations, respecting your language preference
                                          • New icons for speed warnings
                                          • Increased size of next maneuver widget
                                          • Preparation for Carpe Iter support (only available to their development team)
                                          • Navigations can be resumed using BT controllers / input devices
                                          • Previous camera tracking mode is respected when refocussing the camera (in short: compass tap behavior 😉)
                                          • Newest HERE SDK (4.15.5)

                                          Known issues in this Beta

                                          • Offline maps update might not be available (contacted HERE)
                                          • Battery usage (ongoing issue with HERE)
                                          • Roundabouts sometimes show incorrect exit direction
                                          • Other common minor issues shared in the past weeks / month

                                          We are looking forward to all your feedback! 😃

                                          Thanks so much for your continuing participation in the Beta program.

                                          Cheers,
                                          Corjan

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                                          @Corjan-Meijerink
                                          Geweldige update weer Corjan! Dank daarvoor🙏🏻

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