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  • undefined Rob Verhoeff
    12 Aug 2023, 09:13

    @Nick-Carthew @Arno-0 An A-B route. When I click on the helmet, the other options appear. If I choose a camper route, then the app does show a different route indeed.

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    Nick Carthew
    RouteXpert
    wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 09:15 last edited by
    #24

    @Rob-Verhoeff Thank you. I am happy to be corrected.

    Always willing to help if I can.
    Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
    MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
    Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
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    • undefined Rob Verhoeff
      12 Aug 2023, 09:13

      @Nick-Carthew @Arno-0 An A-B route. When I click on the helmet, the other options appear. If I choose a camper route, then the app does show a different route indeed.

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      Arno 0
      wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 09:20 last edited by
      #25

      @Rob-Verhoeff Thanks and youโ€™re right ๐Ÿ‘. In the first screen after youโ€™ve selected your destination, you can change the transport mode by clicking on the icon with the currently selected transport mode (car, bicycle, motorcycle, camper etc.). I didnโ€™t notice this before ๐Ÿ˜‰.

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        Corjan Meijerink
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        wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 11:27 last edited by
        #26

        @Arno-0 @Nick-Carthew @Rob-Verhoeff Campers can definitely be used for A-B routes!

        Iโ€™ll look into a way to quickly change transport modes for routes. Now you will indeed always use the transport mode as indicated by the planned route.

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        • undefined RetiredWingMan
          11 Aug 2023, 22:06

          @Corjan-Meijerink what does zoom correction do? If it adjusts zoom, by how much? Travel mode appears to have been set in the web planner. Is there a way to change a travel mode when starting a route? Seems a pain to have to go back and modify every route.

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          Corjan Meijerink
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          wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 11:33 last edited by
          #27

          @Doug-Robinson the zoom correction really just slightly zooms in / out. However, the difference between โ€œโ€”โ€œ and โ€œ++โ€ is a full zoom level (quite much).
          If the app zoom wasnโ€™t an issue for you, leave it as is.

          If you however always prefer a bit more / less zoom, this is the place to be.

          Besides this option, we improved the app zooming when driving faster >60kph or on the highway. We then zoom out slightly more as community (and personal) opinion was that the app would be zoomed in too much on highways. This cannot be turned off.

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            Arno 0
            wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 14:27 last edited by
            #28

            If you turn off the use of toll roads while in camper transport mode, it also turns off the use of highways. This is only in camper transport mode and not in car or motorcycle transport mode.

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            • undefined Nick Carthew
              12 Aug 2023, 09:03

              @Doug-Robinson said in New Beta! (v4.0.3) Motorhome & Motorcycle:

              @Corjan-Meijerink what does zoom correction do? If it adjusts zoom, by how much?

              โ€œ *Zoom correction and improved zooming
              Do you believe the app is zoomed in too much? Or not enough? Simply apply more or less zoom correction!

              We also ensured that when driving fast or on the highway, the app zooms out slightly more than before* ๐Ÿ™‚โ€

              By this statement I guess slightly more ๐Ÿ˜‰

              Travel mode appears to have been set in the web planner. Is there a way to change a travel mode when starting a route? Seems a pain to have to go back and modify every route.

              Travel mode is set at the planning stage. Open the route in the app and click the edit button, the route is now open via the website. Click the Show route details tab at the bottom and then click Route information to change Transport mode.

              Why would you need to modify every route? Your routes have been ok up until now!
              As stated in another topic, changing transport mode to motorcycle would have very little affect.

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              RetiredWingMan
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              wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 15:15 last edited by
              #29

              @Nick-Carthew thank you. I'll have to play with the zoom setting to see what the impact is. I always felt that the zoom level was too high allowing a look down the road of only about 300 m. I prefer 1 to 2 km.

              I look forward to a time when certain settings, such as route options (avoid options for example), can be saved and automatically loaded based on selected travel mode. I tend to use different options when traveling by car vs motorcycle.

              2010 GL1800 Goldwing using Samsung Galaxy S20 5G Android 13.

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              • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                12 Aug 2023, 11:33

                @Doug-Robinson the zoom correction really just slightly zooms in / out. However, the difference between โ€œโ€”โ€œ and โ€œ++โ€ is a full zoom level (quite much).
                If the app zoom wasnโ€™t an issue for you, leave it as is.

                If you however always prefer a bit more / less zoom, this is the place to be.

                Besides this option, we improved the app zooming when driving faster >60kph or on the highway. We then zoom out slightly more as community (and personal) opinion was that the app would be zoomed in too much on highways. This cannot be turned off.

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                Lynchy67
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                wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 15:25 last edited by Lynchy67 8 Dec 2023, 15:29
                #30

                @Corjan-Meijerink

                With this 4.0.3 update I am now getting the following screen regarding Google?
                I am aware others had this in the previous version.

                Should I ignore it and select No?
                Previously my location has been very accurate on Android.

                I canโ€™t get out on the bike to test until tomorrow.

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                You donโ€™t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                • undefined Lynchy67
                  12 Aug 2023, 15:25

                  @Corjan-Meijerink

                  With this 4.0.3 update I am now getting the following screen regarding Google?
                  I am aware others had this in the previous version.

                  Should I ignore it and select No?
                  Previously my location has been very accurate on Android.

                  I canโ€™t get out on the bike to test until tomorrow.

                  Screenshot_20230812_161910.jpg

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                  Nick Carthew
                  RouteXpert
                  wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 15:29 last edited by
                  #31

                  @Lynchy67 If you answer yes, Google will then require further information - shoe size, favourite colour, what you had for breakfast etc etc ๐Ÿ˜…

                  Always willing to help if I can.
                  Triumph Tiger 1200 XRT called Tina.
                  MRA Navigation Next and SilverFox B8J bar buttons.
                  Quadlock wireless mount for IPhone 11.
                  Cardo Scala Packtalk Bold.
                  TomTom Rider 500. (In the cupboard now)

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                  • undefined Nick Carthew
                    12 Aug 2023, 15:29

                    @Lynchy67 If you answer yes, Google will then require further information - shoe size, favourite colour, what you had for breakfast etc etc ๐Ÿ˜…

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                    Lynchy67
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                    wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 15:32 last edited by
                    #32

                    @Nick-Carthew

                    Thanks for the clarification Nick.
                    Just wanted to be sure.

                    You donโ€™t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                    • undefined Lynchy67
                      12 Aug 2023, 15:25

                      @Corjan-Meijerink

                      With this 4.0.3 update I am now getting the following screen regarding Google?
                      I am aware others had this in the previous version.

                      Should I ignore it and select No?
                      Previously my location has been very accurate on Android.

                      I canโ€™t get out on the bike to test until tomorrow.

                      Screenshot_20230812_161910.jpg

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                      Corjan Meijerink
                      Developer
                      wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 16:17 last edited by
                      #33

                      @Lynchy67 yeah, enable it!
                      But did you have issues before? I only expect people that had the annoying popup about Google before to see this prompt.

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                      • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                        12 Aug 2023, 16:17

                        @Lynchy67 yeah, enable it!
                        But did you have issues before? I only expect people that had the annoying popup about Google before to see this prompt.

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                        Lynchy67
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                        wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 18:32 last edited by Lynchy67 8 Dec 2023, 18:37
                        #34

                        @Corjan-Meijerink

                        No I never had this issue before with any previous updates.
                        It appeared with v4.0.3

                        I also have an iOS Next account, so considering getting an iPhone.

                        You donโ€™t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                        • undefined Lynchy67
                          12 Aug 2023, 18:32

                          @Corjan-Meijerink

                          No I never had this issue before with any previous updates.
                          It appeared with v4.0.3

                          I also have an iOS Next account, so considering getting an iPhone.

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                          Corjan Meijerink
                          Developer
                          wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 18:35 last edited by
                          #35

                          @Lynchy67 thanks! You should have at some point then also seen a notification that the Google services were disabled.

                          However, I will make some tweaks based on your response ๐Ÿ™‚ As you did not have the issue before, your Google services should not have been disabled.

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                            richtea999
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                            wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 18:45 last edited by
                            #36

                            @Lynchy67 said in New Beta! (v4.0.3) Motorhome & Motorcycle:

                            @Corjan-Meijerink

                            With this 4.0.3 update I am now getting the following screen regarding Google?
                            I am aware others had this in the previous version.

                            Should I ignore it and select No?
                            Previously my location has been very accurate on Android.

                            Normally you'll see that if 'Google Location Accuracy' is off (found in the Location -> Location services settings of Android).

                            When disabled, it used to lock you out of the app. Not any more - so that's a great improvement. ๐Ÿ‘

                            If you don't want to see it, then press 'Yes' and it will lead you to enable the Google Location Accuracy.

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                              richtea999
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                              wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 18:51 last edited by
                              #37

                              @Corjan-Meijerink

                              However, for Corjan's benefit, although it's no longer locking you out, the app-based popup (rather than Google's) does continue to nag you:

                              • on restarting a route
                              • on stopping a route
                              • cancelling a selected route (i.e. not pressing 'Start')
                              • tapping anywhere in the default map with no route selected yet

                              It would be nice to remember the users choice, either once per app startup, or even in an app setting somewhere so the nag isn't repeated quite so often.

                              But there are more important things to work on. Just bringing it to your attention.

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                              • undefined richtea999
                                12 Aug 2023, 18:45

                                @Lynchy67 said in New Beta! (v4.0.3) Motorhome & Motorcycle:

                                @Corjan-Meijerink

                                With this 4.0.3 update I am now getting the following screen regarding Google?
                                I am aware others had this in the previous version.

                                Should I ignore it and select No?
                                Previously my location has been very accurate on Android.

                                Normally you'll see that if 'Google Location Accuracy' is off (found in the Location -> Location services settings of Android).

                                When disabled, it used to lock you out of the app. Not any more - so that's a great improvement. ๐Ÿ‘

                                If you don't want to see it, then press 'Yes' and it will lead you to enable the Google Location Accuracy.

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                                Corjan Meijerink
                                Developer
                                wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 18:52 last edited by
                                #38

                                @richtea999 thanks for calling it a great improvement! ๐Ÿ™‚
                                Happy you tested it.

                                I assume there is an issue with the Google location services if the app doesnโ€™t know where you are after 5 seconds. I guess Steve had bad reception when first opening the update and this assumption was then therefore wrong.

                                For the release Iโ€™ll either increase this duration and research more if I can actually tell if the services were disabled ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                                  12 Aug 2023, 18:52

                                  @richtea999 thanks for calling it a great improvement! ๐Ÿ™‚
                                  Happy you tested it.

                                  I assume there is an issue with the Google location services if the app doesnโ€™t know where you are after 5 seconds. I guess Steve had bad reception when first opening the update and this assumption was then therefore wrong.

                                  For the release Iโ€™ll either increase this duration and research more if I can actually tell if the services were disabled ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                  Con Hennekens
                                  Alpha tester
                                  wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 20:41 last edited by
                                  #39

                                  @Corjan-Meijerink, I am thinking it has to do with how far you are from routable roads. I had this "problem" too on vacation, on the camping site. Now I am at home, and close to my street, the problem seems to be gone. I am thinking the API assumes not enough accuracy if not near a routable road, and tries to improve it with a less accurate method of location (scanning wifi...)

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                  • undefined Arno 0
                                    12 Aug 2023, 14:27

                                    If you turn off the use of toll roads while in camper transport mode, it also turns off the use of highways. This is only in camper transport mode and not in car or motorcycle transport mode.

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                                    Arno 0
                                    wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 20:46 last edited by
                                    #40

                                    @Arno-0 said in New Beta! (v4.0.3) Motorhome & Motorcycle:

                                    If you turn off the use of toll roads while in camper transport mode, it also turns off the use of highways. This is only in camper transport mode and not in car or motorcycle transport mode.
                                    โ€”-
                                    Can someone please reply on this comment. This was also mentioned in another topic but als no reply there. I think this is a fault and can maybe be solved before the official release.

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                                      12 Aug 2023, 14:27

                                      If you turn off the use of toll roads while in camper transport mode, it also turns off the use of highways. This is only in camper transport mode and not in car or motorcycle transport mode.

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                                      Corjan Meijerink
                                      Developer
                                      wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 20:47 last edited by
                                      #41

                                      @Arno-0 thanks! I believe the app does it correctly, might be something with HERE! Iโ€™ll check next week ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                      • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                                        12 Aug 2023, 20:47

                                        @Arno-0 thanks! I believe the app does it correctly, might be something with HERE! Iโ€™ll check next week ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                        Arno 0
                                        wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 20:49 last edited by Arno 0 8 Dec 2023, 20:50
                                        #42

                                        @Corjan-Meijerink Thanks that you will check. The problem is in the app.

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                                        • undefined Arno 0
                                          12 Aug 2023, 20:49

                                          @Corjan-Meijerink Thanks that you will check. The problem is in the app.

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                                          wrote on 12 Aug 2023, 20:58 last edited by
                                          #43

                                          @Arno-0 Iโ€™ll let you know ๐Ÿ˜‰

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