'Advert' popups - please limit the number
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wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 16:41 last edited by richtea999
The popup shown when going to Route Lab is irritating when shown on every click.
The group I'm riding with right now (for 10 days) is mocking or cursing the app, and that's a shame.
Logged-in users are very likely to know what Route Lab is so why not limit the shows to a max of, say, 3.
Yours grumpily in the Dolomites!
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The popup shown when going to Route Lab is irritating when shown on every click.
The group I'm riding with right now (for 10 days) is mocking or cursing the app, and that's a shame.
Logged-in users are very likely to know what Route Lab is so why not limit the shows to a max of, say, 3.
Yours grumpily in the Dolomites!
@richtea999 fixed in the 4.0.1 update already! But not yet available on iOS
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The popup shown when going to Route Lab is irritating when shown on every click.
The group I'm riding with right now (for 10 days) is mocking or cursing the app, and that's a shame.
Logged-in users are very likely to know what Route Lab is so why not limit the shows to a max of, say, 3.
Yours grumpily in the Dolomites!
wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 17:48 last edited by@richtea999 May I ask why the members in your group are moving to Routelab that often? What are they willing to accomplish when doing so? What does going to Routelab through that button offer you that the rest of the shown functionalities do not?
Imho the only reason we shall move to Routelab on purpose is to upload a route or to take over a route from a friend.
Please elaborate.
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@richtea999 fixed in the 4.0.1 update already! But not yet available on iOS
wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 18:10 last edited by@Corjan-Meijerink
just a clarification version 4.0.1 is not available to anyone. I don't see it anywhere on the play store? -
@Corjan-Meijerink
just a clarification version 4.0.1 is not available to anyone. I don't see it anywhere on the play store?wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 18:13 last edited by@Calibos it is still under review by Google. Hopefully, Google will approve shortly.
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@Calibos it is still under review by Google. Hopefully, Google will approve shortly.
wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 18:19 last edited by@Dave-J-0
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@richtea999 May I ask why the members in your group are moving to Routelab that often? What are they willing to accomplish when doing so? What does going to Routelab through that button offer you that the rest of the shown functionalities do not?
Imho the only reason we shall move to Routelab on purpose is to upload a route or to take over a route from a friend.
Please elaborate.
wrote on 22 Jun 2023, 20:58 last edited by@StefanHummelink said in 'Advert' popups - please limit the number:
@richtea999
Imho the only reason we shall move to Routelab on purpose is to upload a route or to take over a route from a friend.Please elaborate.
We're on the road, no computers, just phones, and go in there to get shared routes, and usually copy/edit/refine those routes the night before a ride. A group of 20 riders and around 15-20 shared routes between us.
Planning on the computer at home is all very well, but when you get somewhere new (Dolomites in our case) you realise that the pre-planned routes aren't necessarily exactly what you want. Hence the repeated use of dipping in and looking at each route, then copying the 'right' one for editing.
The problem is that browsing routes is tricky to do without losing your place in page hierarchy because Android Back button and app Back button act differently, and you've got a 50/50 chance of guessing which is right! If you hit Android Back then Routelab exits. Grrrr.
That is compounded by the number of steps to get back to the shared routes when you do press the wrong back key:
Routelab -> Continue (grrr!) -> Groups -> select group -> Page menu -> Routes -> select directory -> pick a route -> not the right one, so press back - ah sh*t! - pressed the wrong back key. Do it all again.Some way to make a shortcut into a shared directory of routes would be nice, but that needs some careful thought not to make the UI overcrowded. Also maybe a preview of a route which can be cancelled or 'used' would be helpful.
The navigation to shared routes isn't intuitive, or at least, not on a phone to a casual user. It's an odd mix of app and web. It works but a new user can't easily guess where to find features. 'Page menu' for example is a source of confusion in name and position on screen.
Last thoughts: in the field running live on Android the stability is good. Gold star to you!. The only problem is running it in 32C heat means phone (OnePlus Nord) is proper cooking and can struggle to process if any other app is temporarily opened like the camera. I have to leave it a few minutes to cool.
Anyway, enough typing on a tiny phone, there are passes to be ridden!
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@StefanHummelink said in 'Advert' popups - please limit the number:
@richtea999
Imho the only reason we shall move to Routelab on purpose is to upload a route or to take over a route from a friend.Please elaborate.
We're on the road, no computers, just phones, and go in there to get shared routes, and usually copy/edit/refine those routes the night before a ride. A group of 20 riders and around 15-20 shared routes between us.
Planning on the computer at home is all very well, but when you get somewhere new (Dolomites in our case) you realise that the pre-planned routes aren't necessarily exactly what you want. Hence the repeated use of dipping in and looking at each route, then copying the 'right' one for editing.
The problem is that browsing routes is tricky to do without losing your place in page hierarchy because Android Back button and app Back button act differently, and you've got a 50/50 chance of guessing which is right! If you hit Android Back then Routelab exits. Grrrr.
That is compounded by the number of steps to get back to the shared routes when you do press the wrong back key:
Routelab -> Continue (grrr!) -> Groups -> select group -> Page menu -> Routes -> select directory -> pick a route -> not the right one, so press back - ah sh*t! - pressed the wrong back key. Do it all again.Some way to make a shortcut into a shared directory of routes would be nice, but that needs some careful thought not to make the UI overcrowded. Also maybe a preview of a route which can be cancelled or 'used' would be helpful.
The navigation to shared routes isn't intuitive, or at least, not on a phone to a casual user. It's an odd mix of app and web. It works but a new user can't easily guess where to find features. 'Page menu' for example is a source of confusion in name and position on screen.
Last thoughts: in the field running live on Android the stability is good. Gold star to you!. The only problem is running it in 32C heat means phone (OnePlus Nord) is proper cooking and can struggle to process if any other app is temporarily opened like the camera. I have to leave it a few minutes to cool.
Anyway, enough typing on a tiny phone, there are passes to be ridden!
@richtea999 fun to read hoe you use it.
I absolutely never touch the Routelab button
Good news, in the 4.0.2 version (next update, not yet scheduled) we’ve improved the back button behaviour to prevent those accidental exits
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@StefanHummelink said in 'Advert' popups - please limit the number:
@richtea999
Imho the only reason we shall move to Routelab on purpose is to upload a route or to take over a route from a friend.Please elaborate.
We're on the road, no computers, just phones, and go in there to get shared routes, and usually copy/edit/refine those routes the night before a ride. A group of 20 riders and around 15-20 shared routes between us.
Planning on the computer at home is all very well, but when you get somewhere new (Dolomites in our case) you realise that the pre-planned routes aren't necessarily exactly what you want. Hence the repeated use of dipping in and looking at each route, then copying the 'right' one for editing.
The problem is that browsing routes is tricky to do without losing your place in page hierarchy because Android Back button and app Back button act differently, and you've got a 50/50 chance of guessing which is right! If you hit Android Back then Routelab exits. Grrrr.
That is compounded by the number of steps to get back to the shared routes when you do press the wrong back key:
Routelab -> Continue (grrr!) -> Groups -> select group -> Page menu -> Routes -> select directory -> pick a route -> not the right one, so press back - ah sh*t! - pressed the wrong back key. Do it all again.Some way to make a shortcut into a shared directory of routes would be nice, but that needs some careful thought not to make the UI overcrowded. Also maybe a preview of a route which can be cancelled or 'used' would be helpful.
The navigation to shared routes isn't intuitive, or at least, not on a phone to a casual user. It's an odd mix of app and web. It works but a new user can't easily guess where to find features. 'Page menu' for example is a source of confusion in name and position on screen.
Last thoughts: in the field running live on Android the stability is good. Gold star to you!. The only problem is running it in 32C heat means phone (OnePlus Nord) is proper cooking and can struggle to process if any other app is temporarily opened like the camera. I have to leave it a few minutes to cool.
Anyway, enough typing on a tiny phone, there are passes to be ridden!
wrote on 23 Jun 2023, 04:27 last edited by Stefan Hummelink@richtea999 I see!
The main reason for you to go through routelab is to edit or modify routes, and that is one of the sole cases where routelab is still required per today. If we get a native editor in the app, routelab becomes quite useless since all features can be embedded into the app.
Thanks for your clarification and have a safe but joyful trip!
