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  • Bart De Medtsundefined Offline
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    Bart De Medts
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    When deviating from an A to B route, the recalculation does not go so well and the navigation sends me to the original route for a long time, even if there is a logical alternative. I think this is since automatic skipping of waypoints is possible.

    🏍️ Motorcycle: DMD-T665 + SilverFox controller
    πŸš— Car: iPhone 15 Pro with wireless Apple CarPlay

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    • Bart De Medtsundefined Bart De Medts

      When deviating from an A to B route, the recalculation does not go so well and the navigation sends me to the original route for a long time, even if there is a logical alternative. I think this is since automatic skipping of waypoints is possible.

      Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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      Con Hennekens
      Alpha tester
      wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
      #2

      @Bart-DM, There are 2 kinds of A2B routes.

      • If you choose the straight line, you are navigating a quickest route, that takes notice of your navigation settings (not allow Highways for example). If you deviate f rom the route, a new quickest route will be calculated, that can be entirely different from the previous one.
      • if you choose one of the curvy routes, a route track is calculated and navigated. Deviating from the route wil calculate a way back to the track.

      I already suggested a different color of route-line for track-based routes, or another way of indication for track or waypoint based routes. Not sure if it will be picked up.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

        @Bart-DM, There are 2 kinds of A2B routes.

        • If you choose the straight line, you are navigating a quickest route, that takes notice of your navigation settings (not allow Highways for example). If you deviate f rom the route, a new quickest route will be calculated, that can be entirely different from the previous one.
        • if you choose one of the curvy routes, a route track is calculated and navigated. Deviating from the route wil calculate a way back to the track.

        I already suggested a different color of route-line for track-based routes, or another way of indication for track or waypoint based routes. Not sure if it will be picked up.

        Bart De Medtsundefined Offline
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        Bart De Medts
        Alpha tester
        wrote on last edited by
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        @Con-Hennekens Yes I know. I always choose the quickest route with everything allowed. Then, if I deviate from the route, the naviagation tries to send me back to the original route for a long time. Much longer than it used to.

        🏍️ Motorcycle: DMD-T665 + SilverFox controller
        πŸš— Car: iPhone 15 Pro with wireless Apple CarPlay

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        • Bart De Medtsundefined Bart De Medts

          @Con-Hennekens Yes I know. I always choose the quickest route with everything allowed. Then, if I deviate from the route, the naviagation tries to send me back to the original route for a long time. Much longer than it used to.

          Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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          Con Hennekens
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          @Bart-DM, Okay, I have not noticed that yet,

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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          • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

            @Bart-DM, Okay, I have not noticed that yet,

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            Con Hennekens
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            wrote on last edited by Con Hennekens
            #5

            What I did notice today however, was with a curvy route (track) Truus suddenly told me I reached a waypoint... (?)

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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            • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

              @Bart-DM, Okay, I have not noticed that yet,

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              Bart De Medts
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              @Con-Hennekens Try it, you might experience it too and then there is a bug after all πŸ˜›

              🏍️ Motorcycle: DMD-T665 + SilverFox controller
              πŸš— Car: iPhone 15 Pro with wireless Apple CarPlay

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              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Online
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                Corjan Meijerink
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                I can confirm I thought to have had the same experience. Not entirely sure but this confirms my slight suspicion that something is different.

                However, the β€œreturn to route” algorithm that is used for this is an HERE SDK feature. At most app updates we update the HERE SDK to the newest version meaning that these things can change to (due to HERE changes ik the SDK).

                I’ll investigate when I’m back. Thanks for sharing! πŸ™‚

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                • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                  I can confirm I thought to have had the same experience. Not entirely sure but this confirms my slight suspicion that something is different.

                  However, the β€œreturn to route” algorithm that is used for this is an HERE SDK feature. At most app updates we update the HERE SDK to the newest version meaning that these things can change to (due to HERE changes ik the SDK).

                  I’ll investigate when I’m back. Thanks for sharing! πŸ™‚

                  Bart De Medtsundefined Offline
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                  Bart De Medts
                  Alpha tester
                  wrote on last edited by
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                  @Corjan-Meijerink Thx! πŸ™‚

                  🏍️ Motorcycle: DMD-T665 + SilverFox controller
                  πŸš— Car: iPhone 15 Pro with wireless Apple CarPlay

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                  • Bart De Medtsundefined Bart De Medts

                    When deviating from an A to B route, the recalculation does not go so well and the navigation sends me to the original route for a long time, even if there is a logical alternative. I think this is since automatic skipping of waypoints is possible.

                    tonySundefined Offline
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                    @Bart-DM I noticed similar on a 20 mile A2B route, I could travel for ~5 miles off route whilst being repeatedly told to turn round.

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                    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                      I can confirm I thought to have had the same experience. Not entirely sure but this confirms my slight suspicion that something is different.

                      However, the β€œreturn to route” algorithm that is used for this is an HERE SDK feature. At most app updates we update the HERE SDK to the newest version meaning that these things can change to (due to HERE changes ik the SDK).

                      I’ll investigate when I’m back. Thanks for sharing! πŸ™‚

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                      @Corjan-Meijerink said in Recalculation of a route:

                      HERE SDK feature

                      Had to go to the dictionary on that one - Software Developer Kit

                      I am new to MRA, but suffered with BaseCamp for many years. So it is amazing to see the Here maps available to other applications.

                      I just bought the Gold and Navigation Next because your MRA software is already so much better than what Garmin provides.

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                      • Bob Harveyundefined Bob Harvey

                        @Corjan-Meijerink said in Recalculation of a route:

                        HERE SDK feature

                        Had to go to the dictionary on that one - Software Developer Kit

                        I am new to MRA, but suffered with BaseCamp for many years. So it is amazing to see the Here maps available to other applications.

                        I just bought the Gold and Navigation Next because your MRA software is already so much better than what Garmin provides.

                        Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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                        Con Hennekens
                        Alpha tester
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @Bob-Harvey said in Recalculation of a route:

                        I just bought the Gold and Navigation Next because your MRA software is already so much better than what Garmin provides.

                        Not really a Beta-thing πŸ˜‰ but I think many of us are here for the same reason!

                        @Bob-Harvey said in Recalculation of a route:

                        Software Developer Kit

                        Yes. An SDK provides tools for developing software that uses specific services. Some features are therefore bound to the limits the SDK provides. It is good to know that some features are the way they are because of those limits. Sometimes a brilliant developer ( πŸ˜‰ ) can think outside the SDK. E.g. the curvy roads are based on OSM and fed to the Here navigation as a track. But often it is very difficult to circumvent limits posed by the SDK. The MRA team is doing an incredible job. πŸ‘

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                          @Bob-Harvey said in Recalculation of a route:

                          I just bought the Gold and Navigation Next because your MRA software is already so much better than what Garmin provides.

                          Not really a Beta-thing πŸ˜‰ but I think many of us are here for the same reason!

                          @Bob-Harvey said in Recalculation of a route:

                          Software Developer Kit

                          Yes. An SDK provides tools for developing software that uses specific services. Some features are therefore bound to the limits the SDK provides. It is good to know that some features are the way they are because of those limits. Sometimes a brilliant developer ( πŸ˜‰ ) can think outside the SDK. E.g. the curvy roads are based on OSM and fed to the Here navigation as a track. But often it is very difficult to circumvent limits posed by the SDK. The MRA team is doing an incredible job. πŸ‘

                          Bart De Medtsundefined Offline
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                          Bart De Medts
                          Alpha tester
                          wrote on last edited by
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                          @Con-Hennekens said in Recalculation of a route:

                          Sometimes a brilliant developer ( πŸ˜‰ )

                          Like @Corjan-Meijerink πŸ˜‰

                          🏍️ Motorcycle: DMD-T665 + SilverFox controller
                          πŸš— Car: iPhone 15 Pro with wireless Apple CarPlay

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                          • Bart De Medtsundefined Bart De Medts

                            @Con-Hennekens said in Recalculation of a route:

                            Sometimes a brilliant developer ( πŸ˜‰ )

                            Like @Corjan-Meijerink πŸ˜‰

                            Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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                            Alpha tester
                            wrote on last edited by
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                            @Bart-DM, inkoppertje voor degenen met voorkennis πŸ˜‰

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                            • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                              @Bart-DM, inkoppertje voor degenen met voorkennis πŸ˜‰

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                              Bart De Medts
                              Alpha tester
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              @Con-Hennekens exact πŸ˜‰

                              🏍️ Motorcycle: DMD-T665 + SilverFox controller
                              πŸš— Car: iPhone 15 Pro with wireless Apple CarPlay

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                                Hahaha oh you @Bart-DM @Con-Hennekens πŸ™‚

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                                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                  What I did notice today however, was with a curvy route (track) Truus suddenly told me I reached a waypoint... (?)

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                                  @Con-Hennekens Same experience !

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