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Overslaan van shaping point

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    M. Schrijver
    wrote on 18 Apr 2023, 17:46 last edited by
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    A lot postings about skipping shaping points. While i could be so simple.
    Shaping points are shaping points. They have no value beside shaping. They should also not be visible on your navigation screen. Therefore it should be unnecessary to skip the points manually.

    Via-points are more or less mandatory. The option to manually skip points should only be available for these type of points.

    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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    • undefined Stefan Hummelink
      18 Apr 2023, 09:58

      @Con-Hennekens Completely legit. In those traffic situations I will always pause at the side of the road to skip ... Not worth my life..πŸ™‚

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      Con Hennekens
      wrote on 18 Apr 2023, 18:22 last edited by
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      @StefanHummelink, well I have a friend that has the habit of stopping rather bluntly wherever he likes. That's also not a good idea most of the time... It's always about using common sense. Sometimes a press on a button is the best solution. whether on a screen or not. Does it not do what you want, look out for a safe place to pull over.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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      • undefined Rob Verhoeff
        18 Apr 2023, 17:14

        @Corjan-Meijerink ik zal een rondje in Zoetermeer maken (of dezelfde route nog eens rijden) en het proberen te reproduceren. Geef mij een paar dagen. Ik zal het resultaat in deze post vermelden.

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        Corjan Meijerink
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        wrote on 18 Apr 2023, 18:27 last edited by
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        @Rob-Verhoeff Je bent geweldig πŸ™‚

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        • undefined M. Schrijver
          18 Apr 2023, 17:46

          A lot postings about skipping shaping points. While i could be so simple.
          Shaping points are shaping points. They have no value beside shaping. They should also not be visible on your navigation screen. Therefore it should be unnecessary to skip the points manually.

          Via-points are more or less mandatory. The option to manually skip points should only be available for these type of points.

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          Corjan Meijerink
          administrator
          wrote on 18 Apr 2023, 18:28 last edited by
          #24

          @M-Schrijver opinions differ on this. We do however have automatic skipping shaping points on our radar. The feature is already added within the settings but disabled πŸ™‚

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            18 Apr 2023, 18:22

            @StefanHummelink, well I have a friend that has the habit of stopping rather bluntly wherever he likes. That's also not a good idea most of the time... It's always about using common sense. Sometimes a press on a button is the best solution. whether on a screen or not. Does it not do what you want, look out for a safe place to pull over.

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            Stefan Hummelink
            wrote on 18 Apr 2023, 19:01 last edited by
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            @Con-Hennekens Muhahaha. Quite reckless guy then. In that case, I support your case ... But yea, both options can be chosen for the situation at hand. I feel we're on the same page here.

            Manks bu'j te bange.

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            • undefined Corjan Meijerink
              18 Apr 2023, 18:28

              @M-Schrijver opinions differ on this. We do however have automatic skipping shaping points on our radar. The feature is already added within the settings but disabled πŸ™‚

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              Dikke Wim
              wrote on 19 Apr 2023, 07:56 last edited by
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              @Corjan-Meijerink I'm looking forward to the moment automatically skipping shaping points are available. Also hope the shaping points information (distance on upper left corner) will disappear!

              Keep up the good work!

              BMW R1300 GS, BMW Connect Ride Next navigator; Quad Lock with Samsung Galaxy Ultra, iPad Pro (iPadOS 18.0 bèta version) MacBook Pro (MacOS Sequoia 15.2 bèta version), iMac (MacOS Monterey 12.7.6)

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                Rob Verhoeff
                wrote on 20 Apr 2023, 14:39 last edited by
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                @Corjan-Meijerink vandaag op allerlei manieren geprobeerd het issue te reproduceren. Als jij het al niet kan, wie ben ik dan??
                Kan het eventueel een "glitch" in de schermopbouw zijn geweest die MRA daarna heeft vastgehouden? In de eerste afbeelding van mijn openingspost zie je in het bovenste blauwe vlak de aanduiding van de provinciale weg N457. Dit blauwe vlak is helemaal "uitgesmeerd" tot de rechterzijkant van het scherm, daar waar in de rode cirkel het volgende routepunt hoort te verschijnen.
                Ik hou het op een tijdelijke fout in de schermopbouw. Geen idee of je nog iets in logging kunt terughalen? Of kan ik ergens in logging op mijn telefoon iets zoeken?

                Wordt er alsnog een logging meegestuurd van alles wat ik gedaan heb als ik nu na een paar dagen via Testflight een melding verstuur?

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                • undefined Rob Verhoeff
                  20 Apr 2023, 14:39

                  @Corjan-Meijerink vandaag op allerlei manieren geprobeerd het issue te reproduceren. Als jij het al niet kan, wie ben ik dan??
                  Kan het eventueel een "glitch" in de schermopbouw zijn geweest die MRA daarna heeft vastgehouden? In de eerste afbeelding van mijn openingspost zie je in het bovenste blauwe vlak de aanduiding van de provinciale weg N457. Dit blauwe vlak is helemaal "uitgesmeerd" tot de rechterzijkant van het scherm, daar waar in de rode cirkel het volgende routepunt hoort te verschijnen.
                  Ik hou het op een tijdelijke fout in de schermopbouw. Geen idee of je nog iets in logging kunt terughalen? Of kan ik ergens in logging op mijn telefoon iets zoeken?

                  Wordt er alsnog een logging meegestuurd van alles wat ik gedaan heb als ik nu na een paar dagen via Testflight een melding verstuur?

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                  Corjan Meijerink
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                  wrote on 20 Apr 2023, 15:03 last edited by Corjan Meijerink
                  #28

                  @Rob-Verhoeff Logs worden automatisch meegestuurd bij een crash! πŸ™‚ We houden het maar op het feit dat de app een slechte dag had.

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                  • undefined Corjan Meijerink
                    18 Apr 2023, 18:28

                    @M-Schrijver opinions differ on this. We do however have automatic skipping shaping points on our radar. The feature is already added within the settings but disabled πŸ™‚

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                    Antonio Antunes
                    wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 18:45 last edited by
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                    @Corjan-Meijerink First of all I want to inform you that English is not my native language, so I'm using the Google translator to help me write this text, which may distort my opinion a little ... but here goes: 1) if the automatic skipping shaping points means that whenever the original route is disrespected, the application automatically "jumps" to the next closest point (shaping point) ... if so, I'm also looking forward to that possibility;

                    1. I do not agree with the disappearance of information from shaping points (distance on upper left corner), very often I use these points not only as modeling points, but also as various references during a trip with different meanings, by different colors for example, unless technically is impossible ... which is not the case.

                    My applause for your good work ... πŸ‘

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                    • undefined Antonio Antunes
                      21 Apr 2023, 18:45

                      @Corjan-Meijerink First of all I want to inform you that English is not my native language, so I'm using the Google translator to help me write this text, which may distort my opinion a little ... but here goes: 1) if the automatic skipping shaping points means that whenever the original route is disrespected, the application automatically "jumps" to the next closest point (shaping point) ... if so, I'm also looking forward to that possibility;

                      1. I do not agree with the disappearance of information from shaping points (distance on upper left corner), very often I use these points not only as modeling points, but also as various references during a trip with different meanings, by different colors for example, unless technically is impossible ... which is not the case.

                      My applause for your good work ... πŸ‘

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                      Corjan Meijerink
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                      wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 20:17 last edited by
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                      @Antonio-Antunes thanks! All clear πŸ™‚

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                        M. Schrijver
                        wrote on 21 Apr 2023, 22:39 last edited by M. Schrijver
                        #31

                        @Antonio-Antunes
                        I also like to have some references on my route. That is the only thing I realy miss with TomTom GO app. I really like the clean look of TomTom Go. No "noise" on my screen.

                        For these reference you normally use a Via point.
                        A shaping point is for shaping the route ( it is in the name). In my opinion not for references.
                        All those shaping points visible on the route, makes a route unreadable (a lot of "noise").

                        In my opinion hide all shaping points and use them only for shaping. When miss one, recalculated back or to the next one without any questions.
                        When hidding all shaping points, only Via points are visible. This keeps the route more readable and less questions (less "noise"). You can spent more time now to the nice thing. Riding your bike on nice roads. Instead of being busy with all the information on your screen

                        Other possibilty. Hide all Blue Shaping points. So you can use the color function of MRA.

                        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                          M. Schrijver
                          wrote on 22 Apr 2023, 06:53 last edited by
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                          Cannot edit my post anymore
                          But with Via points i mean Waypoints

                          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                          • undefined M. Schrijver
                            22 Apr 2023, 06:53

                            Cannot edit my post anymore
                            But with Via points i mean Waypoints

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                            Antonio Antunes
                            wrote on 22 Apr 2023, 08:16 last edited by
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                            @M-Schrijver I understand but I don't share your opinion. A Via point is a point on the route that I really want to reach or cross, whether to have coffee, refuel, visit, etc. A Shaping point only serves to "shape" my route, that being true... but why can't I enhance a road detail (like a dangerous curve or accident site, for example) using a shaping point and assigning it a different color? It seems appropriate! However, it seems to me that too much noise is being made about this subject, since there are at least two ways to solve it ... using the options already made available by the app (Screen layout: Upcoming waypoint - Yes/No) or ... when creating a route , replace the Shaping points with Via points ... as simple as that ... 😊

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                              M. Schrijver
                              wrote on 22 Apr 2023, 11:47 last edited by
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                              I don't know how it is in your area but in my area it is very usual to use approx 80-100 shaping points for a route with a length of 200-300 km.
                              That are a lot of points visible in my screen. Because there are a lot of shaping points, the Waypoints are invisible. While the Waypoints the points are which matters

                              I understand your second function of shaping points with color. That's why i suggested to hide all blue (standard color) shaping points. In this case shaping points with different colors will be visible. And then you see only the points which matters.

                              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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