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  • Herko ter Horst
    Herko ter Horst
    Herko ter Horst
    wrote on last edited by
    #13

    @Tim-Thompson said in Reshape:

    Yeah... No... I don't think this meets the general definition of collaborative editing.

    Collaborative editing is the process of multiple people editing the same document simultaneously.

    Good thing the TS didn't ask for collaborative editing, then. And there are other forms of collaboration as well.

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    • Herko ter Horst Herko ter Horst

      @Tim-Thompson said in Reshape:

      Yeah... No... I don't think this meets the general definition of collaborative editing.

      Collaborative editing is the process of multiple people editing the same document simultaneously.

      Good thing the TS didn't ask for collaborative editing, then. And there are other forms of collaboration as well.

      Tim  Thompson
      Tim  Thompson
      Tim Thompson
      wrote on last edited by
      #14

      @Herko-ter-Horst said in Reshape:

      @Tim-Thompson said in Reshape:

      Yeah... No... I don't think this meets the general definition of collaborative editing.

      Collaborative editing is the process of multiple people editing the same document simultaneously.

      Good thing the TS didn't ask for collaborative editing, then.

      Well... that's one interpretation.

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      • Con Hennekens
        Con Hennekens
        Con Hennekens
        Alpha tester
        wrote on last edited by
        #15

        I would hate it if I share a route and someone else edits it. Personally I think the current MRA method is better: just take the route into your own library, edit to your liking, and share the edited route under a different name. "v2" or "- edited by Tim" in the name or something.

        Maybe a versioning system would be a good addition. That would make true collaborative editing possible. Registering who did what on a route, and a possibility to revert. Maybe read-only and read-write rights on group-members. So yeah, there is always room for improvement.

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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        • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

          I would hate it if I share a route and someone else edits it. Personally I think the current MRA method is better: just take the route into your own library, edit to your liking, and share the edited route under a different name. "v2" or "- edited by Tim" in the name or something.

          Maybe a versioning system would be a good addition. That would make true collaborative editing possible. Registering who did what on a route, and a possibility to revert. Maybe read-only and read-write rights on group-members. So yeah, there is always room for improvement.

          Tim  Thompson
          Tim  Thompson
          Tim Thompson
          wrote on last edited by Tim Thompson
          #16

          @Con-Hennekens said in Reshape:

          I would hate it if I share a route and someone else edits it. Personally I think the current MRA method is better: just take the route into your own library, edit to your liking, and share the edited route under a different name. "v2" or "- edited by Tim" in the name or something.

          Maybe a versioning system would be a good addition. That would make true collaborative editing possible. Registering who did what on a route, and a possibility to revert. Maybe read-only and read-write rights on group-members. So yeah, there is always room for improvement.

          I believe the answer here might be access control. Furkot has it.

          • Ask Around - Friends can't edit your trip but they can provide suggestions. They will know where you are going, but not when. If you like a suggestion, the tool provides an easy means of incorporating it.

          • Planning access - either view only or full edit. In both cases they can see all the details of your trip: dates, stops, exact routes and all the notes. Full access will be able to modify the dates and times, add new stops, delete stops and add notes to existing stops.

          • Furkot notifies you about changes made by others.

          See the documentation for more details - Share your trip.

          Versioning... I think both MRA and Furkot can handle that. It may not be automated, but what's there is probably good enough.

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          • Tim  Thompson Tim Thompson

            @Con-Hennekens said in Reshape:

            I would hate it if I share a route and someone else edits it. Personally I think the current MRA method is better: just take the route into your own library, edit to your liking, and share the edited route under a different name. "v2" or "- edited by Tim" in the name or something.

            Maybe a versioning system would be a good addition. That would make true collaborative editing possible. Registering who did what on a route, and a possibility to revert. Maybe read-only and read-write rights on group-members. So yeah, there is always room for improvement.

            I believe the answer here might be access control. Furkot has it.

            • Ask Around - Friends can't edit your trip but they can provide suggestions. They will know where you are going, but not when. If you like a suggestion, the tool provides an easy means of incorporating it.

            • Planning access - either view only or full edit. In both cases they can see all the details of your trip: dates, stops, exact routes and all the notes. Full access will be able to modify the dates and times, add new stops, delete stops and add notes to existing stops.

            • Furkot notifies you about changes made by others.

            See the documentation for more details - Share your trip.

            Versioning... I think both MRA and Furkot can handle that. It may not be automated, but what's there is probably good enough.

            TorqueRider
            TorqueRider
            TorqueRider
            wrote on last edited by
            #17

            @Tim-Thompson
            None of the arguments you put forward for using Furkot were requested by TS.
            The question, like the answer, was simple.
            But that has become bogged down and difficult to find in this topic.
            If TS wants a collaboration tool, he will probably ask for it. And we will help him.

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            • Tim  Thompson Tim Thompson

              @Con-Hennekens said in Reshape:

              I would hate it if I share a route and someone else edits it. Personally I think the current MRA method is better: just take the route into your own library, edit to your liking, and share the edited route under a different name. "v2" or "- edited by Tim" in the name or something.

              Maybe a versioning system would be a good addition. That would make true collaborative editing possible. Registering who did what on a route, and a possibility to revert. Maybe read-only and read-write rights on group-members. So yeah, there is always room for improvement.

              I believe the answer here might be access control. Furkot has it.

              • Ask Around - Friends can't edit your trip but they can provide suggestions. They will know where you are going, but not when. If you like a suggestion, the tool provides an easy means of incorporating it.

              • Planning access - either view only or full edit. In both cases they can see all the details of your trip: dates, stops, exact routes and all the notes. Full access will be able to modify the dates and times, add new stops, delete stops and add notes to existing stops.

              • Furkot notifies you about changes made by others.

              See the documentation for more details - Share your trip.

              Versioning... I think both MRA and Furkot can handle that. It may not be automated, but what's there is probably good enough.

              Con Hennekens
              Con Hennekens
              Con Hennekens
              Alpha tester
              wrote on last edited by
              #18

              @Tim-Thompson, I can see that MRA has room for improvement, but I don't see that Furkot is a solution for everything. Please stop advocating that on an MRA forum. Personally I find Furkot counter-intuitive, too many options presented in an almost unreadable menu design, and more some sort of add platform for the catering industry. I'd hate it if MRA grows in that direction.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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              • TorqueRider TorqueRider

                @Tim-Thompson
                None of the arguments you put forward for using Furkot were requested by TS.
                The question, like the answer, was simple.
                But that has become bogged down and difficult to find in this topic.
                If TS wants a collaboration tool, he will probably ask for it. And we will help him.

                Tim  Thompson
                Tim  Thompson
                Tim Thompson
                wrote on last edited by
                #19

                @Jack-van-Tilburg said in Reshape:

                @Tim-Thompson
                None of the arguments you put forward for using Furkot were requested by TS.
                The question, like the answer, was simple.
                But that has become bogged down and difficult to find in this topic.
                If TS wants a collaboration tool, he will probably ask for it. And we will help him.

                Look... This is what the guy said...

                Is it possible to move waypoints on a route created by a friend and shared.

                I organise group runs and sometimes need the adjust the route.

                Sounds like an interest in collaboration to me. Sounds like he distinctly wants to collaboratively edit a route with friends.

                I'm sorry... But MRA doesn't directly support that. It is what it is.

                Look I know this is a MRA forum. However, be that as it may, if somebody is looking for some capability, in the interest of helping them find tools that might suit their needs, I'm going to point them to wherever they might find it. If MRA can do it - I'll point them to where/how if I know it. If it's somewhere other than MRA, so be it. In the end I don't really care if it's MRA, Furkot, Scenic, CoPilot, Waze, Google... Wherever. Doesn't matter.

                I'm not pointing fingers here... But I've already had some jump down my Iunch about mentioning other tools on this forum. I get it. I like MRA too. But I'm not emotionally invested in it and don't see the need to strain credibility in trying to defend it's shortcomings. It's not perfect. No solution is. But it's almost as if some believe their world - and that of MRA - will collapse if someone were to look at other tools that might be able to fill a need that MRA can't.

                If the OP finds my suggestion helpful. Great. If not... Then that's fine too. Free world and all that.

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                • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                  @Tim-Thompson, I can see that MRA has room for improvement, but I don't see that Furkot is a solution for everything. Please stop advocating that on an MRA forum. Personally I find Furkot counter-intuitive, too many options presented in an almost unreadable menu design, and more some sort of add platform for the catering industry. I'd hate it if MRA grows in that direction.

                  Tim  Thompson
                  Tim  Thompson
                  Tim Thompson
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #20

                  @Con-Hennekens said in Reshape:

                  @Tim-Thompson, I can see that MRA has room for improvement, but I don't see that Furkot is a solution for everything. Please stop advocating that on an MRA forum. Personally I find Furkot counter-intuitive, too many options presented in an almost unreadable menu design, and more some sort of add platform for the catering industry. I'd hate it if MRA grows in that direction.

                  See my previous reply to Jack-van-Tilburg.

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                  • Corjan Meijerink
                    Corjan Meijerink
                    Corjan Meijerink
                    Developer
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #21

                    I absolutely do not mind the mentioning of other apps @Tim-Thompson. MRA has shortcomings and so do other apps. MRA has advantages and so do others 🙂

                    As long as the comparison is factual, we have no objection against listing other platforms. Actively promoting a single app would not be appreciated a lot but that isn’t the case here 😉

                    The whole reason we develop the new navigation app is because we want to get rid of the shortcomings in the existing navigation app 💪

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                    • TorqueRider
                      TorqueRider
                      TorqueRider
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #22

                      I don't care if MRA is promoted or some other tool.
                      The discussion in this topic is based on assumptions that TS would like something rather than asking questions or asking for his clarification. This does not clarify the subject and may not help the asker or others who would like to consult the forum later as a reference work.

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                      • TorqueRider TorqueRider

                        I don't care if MRA is promoted or some other tool.
                        The discussion in this topic is based on assumptions that TS would like something rather than asking questions or asking for his clarification. This does not clarify the subject and may not help the asker or others who would like to consult the forum later as a reference work.

                        HABVEN aka MrMRA
                        HABVEN aka MrMRA
                        HABVEN aka MrMRA
                        Valued contributor
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #23

                        I’m closing this post, the answer is given, @Neville-Smith , you can only adjust routes when they are in your own library

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                        Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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