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    Con Hennekens
    Alpha tester
    wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 20:06 last edited by Con Hennekens
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    Today I went riding a route and of course used Next as my guide. I am already quite accustomed to MRA, bit this is my first ride this year, using my BT helmet set. So, connected everything, my helmet says "Phone connected" and off we go. But... no guidance! While stopping to check things, I heard a very faint voice telling me where to go. Turned up the volume on my phone, turned up the volume on my headset and off again. But... No guidance! What the heck! My friend was frontman today, so no big deal. During the coffee break I checked everything again and.... The wrong phone was connected to my headset... 😬

    Now, my suggestion:
    When switching off/on the voice guidance in the settings, can some test sentence be produced please? That keeps people from heaving to pull over to set things right. So we don't need to wait for the next guidance to hear if it's okay.

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    Another option would be to repeat the last guidance sequence when you tap the "Next action" icon on the screen:

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    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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      21 Feb 2023, 20:06

      Today I went riding a route and of course used Next as my guide. I am already quite accustomed to MRA, bit this is my first ride this year, using my BT helmet set. So, connected everything, my helmet says "Phone connected" and off we go. But... no guidance! While stopping to check things, I heard a very faint voice telling me where to go. Turned up the volume on my phone, turned up the volume on my headset and off again. But... No guidance! What the heck! My friend was frontman today, so no big deal. During the coffee break I checked everything again and.... The wrong phone was connected to my headset... 😬

      Now, my suggestion:
      When switching off/on the voice guidance in the settings, can some test sentence be produced please? That keeps people from heaving to pull over to set things right. So we don't need to wait for the next guidance to hear if it's okay.

      24c1de56-ed84-4e1b-bed1-d115cfc32a81-image.png

      Another option would be to repeat the last guidance sequence when you tap the "Next action" icon on the screen:

      3b910267-d3f3-4a27-9a82-674e729afe1a-image.png

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      Stefan Hummelink
      Alpha tester
      wrote on 21 Feb 2023, 22:11 last edited by
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      @Con-Hennekens said in TEST 123!:

      ... The wrong phone was connected to my headset... 😬

      Hahahaha!

      +1 to your suggestions regarding the audible check by sounding a guidance command.

      Manks bu'j te bange.

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        Corjan Meijerink
        Developer
        wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 08:35 last edited by
        #3

        Hahaha, that's hilarious 🙂
        Not really sure what our opinion is about this but we will definitely discuss it! Not something with a very high priority at this moment 😉

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          22 Feb 2023, 08:35

          Hahaha, that's hilarious 🙂
          Not really sure what our opinion is about this but we will definitely discuss it! Not something with a very high priority at this moment 😉

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          Con Hennekens
          Alpha tester
          wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 09:41 last edited by
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          @Corjan-Meijerink said in TEST 123!:

          Hahaha, that's hilarious 🙂

          A bit of self-mockering keeps things in perspective 😉

          Not really sure what our opinion is about this but we will definitely discuss it! Not something with a very high priority at this moment 😉

          Yes, but perhaps also an easy thing to do? 🙏

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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            22 Feb 2023, 09:41

            @Corjan-Meijerink said in TEST 123!:

            Hahaha, that's hilarious 🙂

            A bit of self-mockering keeps things in perspective 😉

            Not really sure what our opinion is about this but we will definitely discuss it! Not something with a very high priority at this moment 😉

            Yes, but perhaps also an easy thing to do? 🙏

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            Corjan Meijerink
            Developer
            wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 09:59 last edited by
            #5

            @Con-Hennekens I totally agree with that!
            En yes, very easy to do! But I'm not sure if we want it 😉

            Obviously people want to turn it off so that's yet another setting.
            And if you really want to know if your phone is correctly connected to your headset, just look at your phone. So is it really the responsibility of the app to inform users?

            Just some random thoughts and therefore we'll let it sink in and discuss it a bit more 🙂

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              22 Feb 2023, 09:59

              @Con-Hennekens I totally agree with that!
              En yes, very easy to do! But I'm not sure if we want it 😉

              Obviously people want to turn it off so that's yet another setting.
              And if you really want to know if your phone is correctly connected to your headset, just look at your phone. So is it really the responsibility of the app to inform users?

              Just some random thoughts and therefore we'll let it sink in and discuss it a bit more 🙂

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              Con Hennekens
              Alpha tester
              wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 10:14 last edited by Con Hennekens
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              @Corjan-Meijerink, I understand, but maybe my funny comment threw the question off a bit.

              Of course it is anyone's own responsibility to connect things correctly. What I am aiming at with my request is to have a method to set the loudness of the voice guide while standing still, preventing that people are going to adjust that while riding. I think it is a safety issue. You cannot set the loudness of the voice if there is no voice, can you? Besides, concerning my second option, why would anyone want that to switch that off? You simply don't tap that area if you don't want the voice guidance to repeat. I don't think it needs to be user-switchable at all. But I would settle for the first option as well.

              You told earlier that there will be a selectable voice, and probably some more voice settings. My guess is that there will be introduced an extra menu for that? If so, please give that menu a test-button. Small request, great for safety.

              I fully agree with you that the amount of options should not get out of hand indeed. Some options should be there "by design". Not everything MUST be switchable. Especially if it's a bout safety.

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                22 Feb 2023, 10:14

                @Corjan-Meijerink, I understand, but maybe my funny comment threw the question off a bit.

                Of course it is anyone's own responsibility to connect things correctly. What I am aiming at with my request is to have a method to set the loudness of the voice guide while standing still, preventing that people are going to adjust that while riding. I think it is a safety issue. You cannot set the loudness of the voice if there is no voice, can you? Besides, concerning my second option, why would anyone want that to switch that off? You simply don't tap that area if you don't want the voice guidance to repeat. I don't think it needs to be user-switchable at all. But I would settle for the first option as well.

                You told earlier that there will be a selectable voice, and probably some more voice settings. My guess is that there will be introduced an extra menu for that? If so, please give that menu a test-button. Small request, great for safety.

                I fully agree with you that the amount of options should not get out of hand indeed. Some options should be there "by design". Not everything MUST be switchable. Especially if it's a bout safety.

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                Stanisław
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                wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 10:57 last edited by
                #7

                @Con-Hennekens I support this idea, simply "test" button somwhere in the options menu would be ok, especially when we can have many different connections - headphone, carplay etc.

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                  Corjan Meijerink
                  Developer
                  wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 16:33 last edited by
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                  A test button in the voice configuration is definitely ok! 🙂 You would want to hear the different presets / volume levels / output devices anyway there!

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                    22 Feb 2023, 16:33

                    A test button in the voice configuration is definitely ok! 🙂 You would want to hear the different presets / volume levels / output devices anyway there!

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                    David Bonner
                    wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 18:52 last edited by
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                    @Corjan-Meijerink Excellent! With a Sena headset you can only set the volume of voice guidance when the satnav is actually speaking to you. I expect other systems are the same. When you are stationary there are usually no voice instructions and it is not safe to set the volume on the move. So setting the volume becomes a matter of trial & error and sometimes just luck - it can be frustrating. To have the ability to test and set the voice volume in Settings would be great, and it would be a refinement that not many other satnavs have. A really good idea Con Hennekens!

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                      22 Feb 2023, 16:33

                      A test button in the voice configuration is definitely ok! 🙂 You would want to hear the different presets / volume levels / output devices anyway there!

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                      Jörgen
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                      wrote on 22 Feb 2023, 19:40 last edited by
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                      @Corjan-Meijerink Yes a good idea. 👍

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                        22 Feb 2023, 18:52

                        @Corjan-Meijerink Excellent! With a Sena headset you can only set the volume of voice guidance when the satnav is actually speaking to you. I expect other systems are the same. When you are stationary there are usually no voice instructions and it is not safe to set the volume on the move. So setting the volume becomes a matter of trial & error and sometimes just luck - it can be frustrating. To have the ability to test and set the voice volume in Settings would be great, and it would be a refinement that not many other satnavs have. A really good idea Con Hennekens!

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                        Con Hennekens
                        Alpha tester
                        wrote on 23 Feb 2023, 10:28 last edited by
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                        @David-Bonner said in TEST 123!:

                        A really good idea Con Hennekens!

                        Thank you! 😉
                        But I have to be honest: it is not entirely my idea. I have seen this before in another App, can't remember which one, I tried many. Also iirc my Zumo speaks a test sentence if you switch to another voice. So switch and switch back does more or less the same.

                        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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