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    UltraStar
    wrote on 10 Feb 2023, 15:36 last edited by
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    iPhone 11P, iOS 16.3; Next 3.2.8 - 151.
    I have used the Generator to create short route. The firs screen shows grayed out map with the information window at the top to enter the start point of the roundtour.

    1. Could you make this text more highly visible, maybe an some icon would help.
      I know you cannot go any further without pressing this button, but - at first time you see the screen - you are looking at it, and "what now?"

    IMG_0074.PNG

    After I entered the start point, I had trouble finding the next step; the text on the bottom of the screen (Show roundtour settings) is very small and not very intuitive.
    2. Larger, more highly visible button to go to the next step would help here.

    IMG_0072.PNG

    Once the roundtour is generated, the screen displays several optional routes with the distance and elevation statistics at the bottom.
    3. The elevation feet on the left side of the screen are cut off.
    4. Again here, larger, better visible button to go to the next step would help here. I am repeating myself. πŸ™‚
    5. First time doing it, I was lost. Where do I go from here. OK, I can zoom in and select a route, and then what? There is no button to start the route, or to go somewhere to start it.
    Finally I figured that out, and went to routes, and selected saved roundtour to start the navigation.

    IMG_0063.PNG

    Once I pressed the button to start the navigation, I was presented with the error screen; I had some calculations errors (darn math again!)

    IMG_0064.PNG

    After pressing Yes on the error message screen, that is what I have seen.

    IMG_0065.PNG

    After closer investigation, I have found out that the generator uses OSM to create a roundtour, and HERE maps are little different. I have compared the maps with OSM, Michelin, HERE and Google. Google and HERE were right on the button; Michelin so so, and OSM not so. OSM uses some dirt roads, stabs that were never finished (or abandoned over time,) etc. Here are some samples.

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    And five more like that. Hmmm, I think I have seen number 6 on the screen with the errors (darn math again!) Yes, I did, but number 5 is missing?!

    If it is possible, can you use the HERE maps to generate the roundtours? This way the same maps would be used for navigation.

    undefined 1 Reply Last reply 10 Feb 2023, 15:39
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    • undefined UltraStar
      10 Feb 2023, 15:36

      iPhone 11P, iOS 16.3; Next 3.2.8 - 151.
      I have used the Generator to create short route. The firs screen shows grayed out map with the information window at the top to enter the start point of the roundtour.

      1. Could you make this text more highly visible, maybe an some icon would help.
        I know you cannot go any further without pressing this button, but - at first time you see the screen - you are looking at it, and "what now?"

      IMG_0074.PNG

      After I entered the start point, I had trouble finding the next step; the text on the bottom of the screen (Show roundtour settings) is very small and not very intuitive.
      2. Larger, more highly visible button to go to the next step would help here.

      IMG_0072.PNG

      Once the roundtour is generated, the screen displays several optional routes with the distance and elevation statistics at the bottom.
      3. The elevation feet on the left side of the screen are cut off.
      4. Again here, larger, better visible button to go to the next step would help here. I am repeating myself. πŸ™‚
      5. First time doing it, I was lost. Where do I go from here. OK, I can zoom in and select a route, and then what? There is no button to start the route, or to go somewhere to start it.
      Finally I figured that out, and went to routes, and selected saved roundtour to start the navigation.

      IMG_0063.PNG

      Once I pressed the button to start the navigation, I was presented with the error screen; I had some calculations errors (darn math again!)

      IMG_0064.PNG

      After pressing Yes on the error message screen, that is what I have seen.

      IMG_0065.PNG

      After closer investigation, I have found out that the generator uses OSM to create a roundtour, and HERE maps are little different. I have compared the maps with OSM, Michelin, HERE and Google. Google and HERE were right on the button; Michelin so so, and OSM not so. OSM uses some dirt roads, stabs that were never finished (or abandoned over time,) etc. Here are some samples.

      IMG_0066.PNG

      c2cf40f1-14f3-4167-8d89-d965148939fd-image.png

      IMG_0067.PNG

      8bd4b0e7-7c2c-49cf-a17e-44ab397078fe-image.png

      And five more like that. Hmmm, I think I have seen number 6 on the screen with the errors (darn math again!) Yes, I did, but number 5 is missing?!

      If it is possible, can you use the HERE maps to generate the roundtours? This way the same maps would be used for navigation.

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      UltraStar
      wrote on 10 Feb 2023, 15:39 last edited by
      #2

      @UltraStar One more thing, when you Play the route, it uses the OSM so there is no problem navigating. πŸ™‚

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        Corjan Meijerink
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        wrote on 11 Feb 2023, 09:04 last edited by
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        Thanks for sharing! The route generator is within the website and therefore the experience is suboptimal. This will be ported to natively within the app in the future! πŸ™‚ To be even more precise, we are now working on a native roundtour generator!

        Unfortunately we will continue using OSM to generate the route as here does not support curviness settings, therefore those issues will continue. As you noticed, we do inform you about possible misplacements of coordinates.

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        • undefined Corjan Meijerink
          11 Feb 2023, 09:04

          Thanks for sharing! The route generator is within the website and therefore the experience is suboptimal. This will be ported to natively within the app in the future! πŸ™‚ To be even more precise, we are now working on a native roundtour generator!

          Unfortunately we will continue using OSM to generate the route as here does not support curviness settings, therefore those issues will continue. As you noticed, we do inform you about possible misplacements of coordinates.

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          UltraStar
          wrote on 12 Feb 2023, 22:56 last edited by
          #4

          @Corjan-Meijerink Thanks for explanation. I have forgotten that HERE does not support curviness. Little more work when generating the roundtour. Not a biggie.

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            12 Feb 2023, 22:56

            @Corjan-Meijerink Thanks for explanation. I have forgotten that HERE does not support curviness. Little more work when generating the roundtour. Not a biggie.

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            Corjan Meijerink
            Developer
            wrote on 13 Feb 2023, 00:17 last edited by
            #5

            @UltraStar No worries πŸ™‚

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