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  • undefined Flat Twin Therapy
    29 Dec 2022, 09:16

    Newbe question, probably, but I wanted to ask anyways: I imported a route using the web interface. Next I wanted to use the app on my (Android) phone to track and navigate the route. In the app I can select the route and select "Open route". Next an overview of the route will be shown.

    Recording is started automatically (nice)
    But what next? How do I start the actual navigation? There is no start button. I selected the 'location icon' (icon on the lower right side), and that zooms in to my current location, but when I start riding no navigation clues and no data shown about my current speed...

    Is this feature not available yet, or am I missing something?!
    Thanks

    Screenshot_20221229-101331.png

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    Rob Verhoeff
    Alpha tester
    wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 10:22 last edited by
    #2

    @Rolf-Aalders wich version are you using? In the bottom left corner you'll have to see a button to start navigation.

    BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
    iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
    Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
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    • undefined Flat Twin Therapy
      29 Dec 2022, 09:16

      Newbe question, probably, but I wanted to ask anyways: I imported a route using the web interface. Next I wanted to use the app on my (Android) phone to track and navigate the route. In the app I can select the route and select "Open route". Next an overview of the route will be shown.

      Recording is started automatically (nice)
      But what next? How do I start the actual navigation? There is no start button. I selected the 'location icon' (icon on the lower right side), and that zooms in to my current location, but when I start riding no navigation clues and no data shown about my current speed...

      Is this feature not available yet, or am I missing something?!
      Thanks

      Screenshot_20221229-101331.png

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      Mark Hamilton 0
      wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 10:23 last edited by
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      • undefined Flat Twin Therapy
        29 Dec 2022, 09:16

        Newbe question, probably, but I wanted to ask anyways: I imported a route using the web interface. Next I wanted to use the app on my (Android) phone to track and navigate the route. In the app I can select the route and select "Open route". Next an overview of the route will be shown.

        Recording is started automatically (nice)
        But what next? How do I start the actual navigation? There is no start button. I selected the 'location icon' (icon on the lower right side), and that zooms in to my current location, but when I start riding no navigation clues and no data shown about my current speed...

        Is this feature not available yet, or am I missing something?!
        Thanks

        Screenshot_20221229-101331.png

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        Mark Hamilton 0
        wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 10:25 last edited by
        #4

        @Rolf-Aalders
        On the screen that has open route button there is an arrow- click that to open in Navigation and then click start

        097F58EA-9C39-426B-BF5F-24BE5C6D67BB.png A1306CE1-BDB4-4CD8-A297-FA3AAA9FFDA8.jpeg

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        • undefined Flat Twin Therapy
          29 Dec 2022, 09:16

          Newbe question, probably, but I wanted to ask anyways: I imported a route using the web interface. Next I wanted to use the app on my (Android) phone to track and navigate the route. In the app I can select the route and select "Open route". Next an overview of the route will be shown.

          Recording is started automatically (nice)
          But what next? How do I start the actual navigation? There is no start button. I selected the 'location icon' (icon on the lower right side), and that zooms in to my current location, but when I start riding no navigation clues and no data shown about my current speed...

          Is this feature not available yet, or am I missing something?!
          Thanks

          Screenshot_20221229-101331.png

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          Rob Verhoeff
          Alpha tester
          wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 10:26 last edited by
          #5

          @Rolf-Aalders on iOS it looks like this:

          IMG_5417.jpeg

          BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
          iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
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          • undefined Flat Twin Therapy
            29 Dec 2022, 09:16

            Newbe question, probably, but I wanted to ask anyways: I imported a route using the web interface. Next I wanted to use the app on my (Android) phone to track and navigate the route. In the app I can select the route and select "Open route". Next an overview of the route will be shown.

            Recording is started automatically (nice)
            But what next? How do I start the actual navigation? There is no start button. I selected the 'location icon' (icon on the lower right side), and that zooms in to my current location, but when I start riding no navigation clues and no data shown about my current speed...

            Is this feature not available yet, or am I missing something?!
            Thanks

            Screenshot_20221229-101331.png

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            Mark Hamilton 0
            wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 10:29 last edited by
            #6

            @Rolf-Aalders
            Sorry my photos showing the buttons are on the wrong order on the post.
            This is the answer for navigation next I think this is what you meant.

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            • undefined Flat Twin Therapy
              29 Dec 2022, 09:16

              Newbe question, probably, but I wanted to ask anyways: I imported a route using the web interface. Next I wanted to use the app on my (Android) phone to track and navigate the route. In the app I can select the route and select "Open route". Next an overview of the route will be shown.

              Recording is started automatically (nice)
              But what next? How do I start the actual navigation? There is no start button. I selected the 'location icon' (icon on the lower right side), and that zooms in to my current location, but when I start riding no navigation clues and no data shown about my current speed...

              Is this feature not available yet, or am I missing something?!
              Thanks

              Screenshot_20221229-101331.png

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              Rob Verhoeff
              Alpha tester
              wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 10:32 last edited by
              #7

              @Rolf-Aalders If I take another good look at your image, you have opened a tracklog. You cannot navigate with a tracklog. You must first convert it to a route with waypoints. Only then can you navigate with it.

              BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
              iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
              Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
              Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Sequoia & Monterey)

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              • undefined Rob Verhoeff
                29 Dec 2022, 10:32

                @Rolf-Aalders If I take another good look at your image, you have opened a tracklog. You cannot navigate with a tracklog. You must first convert it to a route with waypoints. Only then can you navigate with it.

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                Flat Twin Therapy
                wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 20:32 last edited by
                #8

                Thanks for all the replies!
                I didn't open a tracklog: the route is available in my "Route" section.
                I tried a differerent route in the same list and indeed, that route has an additional button (refer to screenshot). Odd that the other route does not have that button.

                The route without the button, I found in the MRA library (https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/motor-and-car-routes/nl/Utrecht/1625106/TTT-2000-03-Rondje-Lopikerwaard) which I wanted to use. I downloaded it, I think as .gpx 1.2), saved to Google Drive, opened on my phone with the MRA Mobile 3.2.5 (beta).

                The other route I have listed in my Route section, does have the extra button. When I selected it, the app crashed. Restarted the app, same procedure: again it crashed. 3rd attempt, same process: the route loaded and I could see the navigation screen. I didn't need to navigate, since I was just testing from the couch.
                I'll try soon! Thanks for the help

                Screenshot_20221229-212241.png

                Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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                  Flat Twin Therapy
                  wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 20:38 last edited by Flat Twin Therapy
                  #9

                  I just noticed that the route that does not show the navigation option/button also is missing duration value in the route overview (refer to screenshot), so something is not right with that route.

                  Screenshot 2022-12-29 at 21.35.33.png

                  Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                  https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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                  • undefined Flat Twin Therapy
                    29 Dec 2022, 20:38

                    I just noticed that the route that does not show the navigation option/button also is missing duration value in the route overview (refer to screenshot), so something is not right with that route.

                    Screenshot 2022-12-29 at 21.35.33.png

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                    flamingm0e
                    wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 21:04 last edited by
                    #10

                    @Rolf-Aalders said in Use existing route for navigation + information on screen?:

                    I just noticed that the route that does not show the navigation option/button also is missing duration value in the route overview (refer to screenshot), so something is not right with that route.

                    Screenshot 2022-12-29 at 21.35.33.png

                    That's a ROUTE-TRACK, not a ROUTE. You need to convert it to a route.

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                    • undefined Flat Twin Therapy
                      29 Dec 2022, 20:32

                      Thanks for all the replies!
                      I didn't open a tracklog: the route is available in my "Route" section.
                      I tried a differerent route in the same list and indeed, that route has an additional button (refer to screenshot). Odd that the other route does not have that button.

                      The route without the button, I found in the MRA library (https://www.myrouteapp.com/en/motor-and-car-routes/nl/Utrecht/1625106/TTT-2000-03-Rondje-Lopikerwaard) which I wanted to use. I downloaded it, I think as .gpx 1.2), saved to Google Drive, opened on my phone with the MRA Mobile 3.2.5 (beta).

                      The other route I have listed in my Route section, does have the extra button. When I selected it, the app crashed. Restarted the app, same procedure: again it crashed. 3rd attempt, same process: the route loaded and I could see the navigation screen. I didn't need to navigate, since I was just testing from the couch.
                      I'll try soon! Thanks for the help

                      Screenshot_20221229-212241.png

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                      Rob Verhoeff
                      Alpha tester
                      wrote on 29 Dec 2022, 21:09 last edited by Rob Verhoeff
                      #11

                      @Rolf-Aalders said in Use existing route for navigation + information on screen?:

                      Thanks for all the replies!
                      I didn't open a tracklog: the route is available in my "Route" section.

                      The finish-flag in the screenshot of your first post indicates that this is a tracklog.

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                      iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                      Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                      Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Sequoia & Monterey)

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                      • undefined Rob Verhoeff
                        29 Dec 2022, 21:09

                        @Rolf-Aalders said in Use existing route for navigation + information on screen?:

                        Thanks for all the replies!
                        I didn't open a tracklog: the route is available in my "Route" section.

                        The finish-flag in the screenshot of your first post indicates that this is a tracklog.

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                        Herko ter Horst
                        wrote on 30 Dec 2022, 09:17 last edited by Herko ter Horst
                        #12

                        @Rob-Verhoeff It's not a track log, it's a route-track. Those are two separate things, but neither can be used to navigate with (other than "follow the line").

                        AFAIK, the (technical) difference between a track log and a route-track is that a track log contains timing information (i.e. each logged position also contains a timestamp indicating when it was logged) and a route-track does not, that's just a representation of a pre-calculated route, without any waypoints.

                        In MRA, there's an additional difference in that track-logs can have "moments" attached to them and route-tracks cannot.

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                        • undefined flamingm0e
                          29 Dec 2022, 21:04

                          @Rolf-Aalders said in Use existing route for navigation + information on screen?:

                          I just noticed that the route that does not show the navigation option/button also is missing duration value in the route overview (refer to screenshot), so something is not right with that route.

                          Screenshot 2022-12-29 at 21.35.33.png

                          That's a ROUTE-TRACK, not a ROUTE. You need to convert it to a route.

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                          Flat Twin Therapy
                          wrote on 30 Dec 2022, 13:42 last edited by
                          #13

                          @Matt-Flaming Thanks! I see it now. "Route-track".
                          Any tips on how to convert a route-track to a route?
                          Thanks!

                          Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                          https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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                          • undefined Flat Twin Therapy
                            30 Dec 2022, 13:42

                            @Matt-Flaming Thanks! I see it now. "Route-track".
                            Any tips on how to convert a route-track to a route?
                            Thanks!

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                            flamingm0e
                            wrote on 30 Dec 2022, 16:52 last edited by
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                            @Rolf-Aalders said in Use existing route for navigation + information on screen?:

                            @Matt-Flaming Thanks! I see it now. "Route-track".
                            Any tips on how to convert a route-track to a route?
                            Thanks!

                            Open it up and in the upper right hand corner "Edit route-track"

                            352e6729-d1dd-4526-866a-c9b1d15dec27-image.png

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                            • undefined flamingm0e
                              30 Dec 2022, 16:52

                              @Rolf-Aalders said in Use existing route for navigation + information on screen?:

                              @Matt-Flaming Thanks! I see it now. "Route-track".
                              Any tips on how to convert a route-track to a route?
                              Thanks!

                              Open it up and in the upper right hand corner "Edit route-track"

                              352e6729-d1dd-4526-866a-c9b1d15dec27-image.png

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                              Flat Twin Therapy
                              wrote on 5 Jan 2023, 04:41 last edited by
                              #15

                              @Matt-Flaming Great!! Thanks for the info!

                              Since January 2024 I started recording some of my rides commuting and touring the R1200RT in The Netherlands:
                              https://youtube.com/@FlatTwinTherapy

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