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  • Hans van de Ven MR.MRA Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

    @reinhard-32

    Thanks @Reinhard-32 , Too bad they closed the upload option. They seem to want Sygic users to only use their own software.

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    @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master Just another example of a small internet company that thinks that vendor lock-in is a good idea.

    It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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    • Hans van de Ven MR.MRA Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

      @reinhard-32

      Thanks @Reinhard-32 , Too bad they closed the upload option. They seem to want Sygic users to only use their own software.

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      @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master said in Sygic Connectivity Issue:

      Too bad they closed the upload option. They seem to want Sygic users to only use their own software.

      Except for THEY HAVE NO own route planning software!
      They are referring to Google Maps for planning routes, with a maximum of 10 stops. If that is meant as 10 waypoints, that is essentially degrading Sygic to AtoB nav ONLY.
      Too bad, since the navigation app itself is a great example to MRA of what Navigation could become...

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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      • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

        @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master said in Sygic Connectivity Issue:

        Too bad they closed the upload option. They seem to want Sygic users to only use their own software.

        Except for THEY HAVE NO own route planning software!
        They are referring to Google Maps for planning routes, with a maximum of 10 stops. If that is meant as 10 waypoints, that is essentially degrading Sygic to AtoB nav ONLY.
        Too bad, since the navigation app itself is a great example to MRA of what Navigation could become...

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        @con-hennekens Well, they do claim they have one...

        https://www.sygic.com/blog/2018/web-route-planner-plan-your-routes-in-smarter-ways

        but from the embedded video it does indeed appear as being nothing else than Google.

        I expect that their navigation software has similar limitations?

        Again, and repeating myself (probably to the devastation of some πŸ™‚ ) in my opinion MRA should devote its time on making a "full navigation stack" from first planning to final navigation, and travel recording in its own ecosystem, and not worry too much about what others do.

        It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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        • Drabslab Drabslab

          @con-hennekens Well, they do claim they have one...

          https://www.sygic.com/blog/2018/web-route-planner-plan-your-routes-in-smarter-ways

          but from the embedded video it does indeed appear as being nothing else than Google.

          I expect that their navigation software has similar limitations?

          Again, and repeating myself (probably to the devastation of some πŸ™‚ ) in my opinion MRA should devote its time on making a "full navigation stack" from first planning to final navigation, and travel recording in its own ecosystem, and not worry too much about what others do.

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          @drabslab, I see, you have to really spit through the website to find that. That blog is 4 years old. I checked their planner, but if this is how far they have come in 4 years, MRA has nothing to fear πŸ˜‰

          The navigation app itself though is a different story. MRA could use Sygic as the benchmark. Navigation works for me, but Sygic clearly is on a higher level with their navigation app.

          That "full Navigation stack" you are talking about, isn't that exactly what they are doing? Being compatible with other devices is no limitation in my opinion, As long as their own Navigation app can take full advantage of al functions.

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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          • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

            @drabslab, I see, you have to really spit through the website to find that. That blog is 4 years old. I checked their planner, but if this is how far they have come in 4 years, MRA has nothing to fear πŸ˜‰

            The navigation app itself though is a different story. MRA could use Sygic as the benchmark. Navigation works for me, but Sygic clearly is on a higher level with their navigation app.

            That "full Navigation stack" you are talking about, isn't that exactly what they are doing? Being compatible with other devices is no limitation in my opinion, As long as their own Navigation app can take full advantage of al functions.

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            @con-hennekens We totally agree on this one and yes, we are all in breathless anticipation of what the MRA planning will look like (and very impatient to find out as holding my breath for too long ain't healthy πŸ™‚ ).

            Being compatble with other tools is indeed no limitation, as long as it does not prevent moving forwards.

            As one example: there was a discussion here where somone claimed that the navigation app does not have a folderstructure because carplay (i think it was) does not cater for a folderstructure. If this would be correct (i have no way of finding out) then MRA stops/slows down its evolution based on limitations imposed by another company. And that's bad.

            That being said, making a roadmap is extremily complex, it is even more complex to follow the roadmap.

            It is not difficult, it is easy, it's a hobby

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            • Drabslab Drabslab

              @con-hennekens We totally agree on this one and yes, we are all in breathless anticipation of what the MRA planning will look like (and very impatient to find out as holding my breath for too long ain't healthy πŸ™‚ ).

              Being compatble with other tools is indeed no limitation, as long as it does not prevent moving forwards.

              As one example: there was a discussion here where somone claimed that the navigation app does not have a folderstructure because carplay (i think it was) does not cater for a folderstructure. If this would be correct (i have no way of finding out) then MRA stops/slows down its evolution based on limitations imposed by another company. And that's bad.

              That being said, making a roadmap is extremily complex, it is even more complex to follow the roadmap.

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              Kurviger has the ability to export to sygic. Import the route into Kurviger and then export as sygic format.
              https://youtu.be/14ABazgMcB4

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              • j de jong 0 j de jong 0

                Kurviger has the ability to export to sygic. Import the route into Kurviger and then export as sygic format.
                https://youtu.be/14ABazgMcB4

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                @j-de-jong-0 Thanks for sharing this information. I have tried it out and it works. So it should be possible to implement this export functionality into MRA in a similar way as kurviger.de already does.

                Kindly regards
                Reinhard

                Montana 700i and Mac

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                • Drabslab Drabslab

                  @con-hennekens We totally agree on this one and yes, we are all in breathless anticipation of what the MRA planning will look like (and very impatient to find out as holding my breath for too long ain't healthy πŸ™‚ ).

                  Being compatble with other tools is indeed no limitation, as long as it does not prevent moving forwards.

                  As one example: there was a discussion here where somone claimed that the navigation app does not have a folderstructure because carplay (i think it was) does not cater for a folderstructure. If this would be correct (i have no way of finding out) then MRA stops/slows down its evolution based on limitations imposed by another company. And that's bad.

                  That being said, making a roadmap is extremily complex, it is even more complex to follow the roadmap.

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                  @drabslab said in Sygic Connectivity Issue:

                  As one example: there was a discussion here where somone claimed that the navigation app does not have a folderstructure because carplay (i think it was) does not cater for a folderstructure.

                  Yes I saw that, but I cannot believe that is true. MRA Navigation is much older that the carplay compatibility, and the folderstructure was not there in the first place, so that cannot be linked. Also I think it would be peanuts to present a folder stucture to Navigation, while presenting a folderless structure to Navigation on Carplay.

                  @reinhard-32 said in Sygic Connectivity Issue:

                  @j-de-jong-0 Thanks for sharing this information. I have tried it out and it works. So it should be possible to implement this export functionality into MRA in a similar way as kurviger.de already does.

                  I am afraid this kind of backward engineering is prone to incompatibility each update of Sygic. These kind of solutions require continues effort of developers to keep it working. It would be so nice if Sygic and MRA would be working together. There can be learned a lot from both.

                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                  Check out RideSleepRepeat.eu, a biker community for sharing stays across Europe

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                  • Con Hennekens Con Hennekens

                    @drabslab said in Sygic Connectivity Issue:

                    As one example: there was a discussion here where somone claimed that the navigation app does not have a folderstructure because carplay (i think it was) does not cater for a folderstructure.

                    Yes I saw that, but I cannot believe that is true. MRA Navigation is much older that the carplay compatibility, and the folderstructure was not there in the first place, so that cannot be linked. Also I think it would be peanuts to present a folder stucture to Navigation, while presenting a folderless structure to Navigation on Carplay.

                    @reinhard-32 said in Sygic Connectivity Issue:

                    @j-de-jong-0 Thanks for sharing this information. I have tried it out and it works. So it should be possible to implement this export functionality into MRA in a similar way as kurviger.de already does.

                    I am afraid this kind of backward engineering is prone to incompatibility each update of Sygic. These kind of solutions require continues effort of developers to keep it working. It would be so nice if Sygic and MRA would be working together. There can be learned a lot from both.

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                    @con-hennekens I have asked Sygic again about the route import. Here the answer:

                    • Yes, this route import is in the plan for the development.
                      Although, we would like to ask for your patience, as we can't confirm when, or even promise it will be added to the app anytime soon.*

                    Kindly regards
                    Reinhard

                    Montana 700i and Mac

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                      Kurviger has the ability to export to sygic. Import the route into Kurviger and then export as sygic format.
                      https://youtu.be/14ABazgMcB4

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