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    Eugene7
    wrote on 4 May 2024, 09:32 last edited by
    #1

    As we will never use the route recording function we need a way to permanently disable it, and remove the record icon.

    The continual pop-up asking for permission to use location in the background is very annoying.

    www.7-dna.com
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      4 May 2024, 09:32

      As we will never use the route recording function we need a way to permanently disable it, and remove the record icon.

      The continual pop-up asking for permission to use location in the background is very annoying.

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      Jörgen
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      wrote on 4 May 2024, 09:35 last edited by
      #2

      @Steve-2 How should a navigation app work without permission to use location? This is essential.
      The track recording is only working when you start the recording.

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        4 May 2024, 09:35

        @Steve-2 How should a navigation app work without permission to use location? This is essential.
        The track recording is only working when you start the recording.

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        Eugene7
        wrote on 4 May 2024, 09:39 last edited by
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        @Jörgen - The app keeps asking for location access when in the background for route recording - we will never use/allow that function, so the app needs to stop asking for background access...

        For navigation, location access is only needed when the app is in use, in the foreground.

        We are migrating from Sygic, which up until recently has been the best Satnav app for touring. But they have killed the routing with multiple waypoints, so it is now unusable.
        But its functionality when it works is presently much better than MyRoute App.

        www.7-dna.com
        www.youtube.com/user/bogclub7

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          4 May 2024, 09:39

          @Jörgen - The app keeps asking for location access when in the background for route recording - we will never use/allow that function, so the app needs to stop asking for background access...

          For navigation, location access is only needed when the app is in use, in the foreground.

          We are migrating from Sygic, which up until recently has been the best Satnav app for touring. But they have killed the routing with multiple waypoints, so it is now unusable.
          But its functionality when it works is presently much better than MyRoute App.

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          Edwin_M
          wrote on 4 May 2024, 09:53 last edited by
          #4

          @Eugene7 i do not agree..sometimes the app is also in background. I can have another in front and the app needs to keep up in location

          Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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            4 May 2024, 09:53

            @Eugene7 i do not agree..sometimes the app is also in background. I can have another in front and the app needs to keep up in location

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            Eugene7
            wrote on 4 May 2024, 10:17 last edited by
            #5

            @Edwin_M - No, the app is considered being in the fg when open, not just because it is covered by something else.

            Whatnot keeps asking for is permission to access location all the time.

            That is s unnecessary, and if you just if other the annoying pop-up, navigation works.

            So just stop the annoying pop-up...

            www.7-dna.com
            www.youtube.com/user/bogclub7

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              richtea999
              wrote on 4 May 2024, 17:44 last edited by richtea999 5 Apr 2024, 17:44
              #6

              As far as I can remember, the recording option is off by default, but this setting is worth checking:

              Account -> Navigation settings -> Functional -> Automatically start tracklog for routes
              You want it unticked.

              In terms of Location popup nags, Jörgen is correct - you can't navigate without location being enabled, and that nag isn't related to the tracklog recording.

              Same goes the background access - you can run it in the background, voice only, if I recall correctly - like Google Maps.

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                4 May 2024, 17:44

                As far as I can remember, the recording option is off by default, but this setting is worth checking:

                Account -> Navigation settings -> Functional -> Automatically start tracklog for routes
                You want it unticked.

                In terms of Location popup nags, Jörgen is correct - you can't navigate without location being enabled, and that nag isn't related to the tracklog recording.

                Same goes the background access - you can run it in the background, voice only, if I recall correctly - like Google Maps.

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                Eugene7
                wrote on 4 May 2024, 18:59 last edited by
                #7

                No - as stated the nag has no impact on navigation. If you do not allow Location when the app is not in use, you can still navigate when the app is on use.

                www.7-dna.com
                www.youtube.com/user/bogclub7

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                  Corjan Meijerink
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                  wrote on 5 May 2024, 08:39 last edited by
                  #8

                  If you do not enable tracking - we do not track.
                  Background permissions are required for a better navigation experience. Voice prompts for example will continue when locking the phone. Als when switching between apps, the navigation doesn’t loose track of where you are 🙂

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                    5 May 2024, 08:39

                    If you do not enable tracking - we do not track.
                    Background permissions are required for a better navigation experience. Voice prompts for example will continue when locking the phone. Als when switching between apps, the navigation doesn’t loose track of where you are 🙂

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                    Eugene7
                    wrote on 5 May 2024, 09:23 last edited by
                    #9

                    This is the annoying nag...
                    There is really no need to keep showingScreenshot_20240504_200009.jpg this

                    www.7-dna.com
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                      M. Schrijver
                      wrote on 5 May 2024, 19:25 last edited by M. Schrijver 5 May 2024, 19:30
                      #10

                      Maybe you know more about Android than me. But if an app is not visible, it is running in the background. In Android only one app can be really active.
                      When you do not allow MRA to run in the background it losses GPS fix every time another app is coming in front of it.
                      Some phone brands use a really agressive app killer when an app is pushed to the background. This causes problems for some apps. Like the ones which required a constant GPS fix.

                      My question to you.
                      What are you afraid off?
                      Is it that MRA always could track your position? Even when the app is not running?

                      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                        richtea999
                        wrote on 6 May 2024, 09:14 last edited by
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                        @M-Schrijver said in Need a way to disable recording of rides:

                        Maybe you know more about Android than me. But if an app is not visible, it is running in the background. In Android only one app can be really active.

                        Android is multitasking and many apps can be 'active' at once (i.e. in the foreground / using the screen). Apps with a user interface used to take the whole screen, and for many people that still appears to be true day to day - you use for phone for one thing at a time, right?

                        However, since 2016 (Android 7) Android has supported multiple windows, but it's an unusual use case since small phones screens aren't conducive to multitasking!

                        Ref: https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/large-screens/multi-window-support

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                          6 May 2024, 09:14

                          @M-Schrijver said in Need a way to disable recording of rides:

                          Maybe you know more about Android than me. But if an app is not visible, it is running in the background. In Android only one app can be really active.

                          Android is multitasking and many apps can be 'active' at once (i.e. in the foreground / using the screen). Apps with a user interface used to take the whole screen, and for many people that still appears to be true day to day - you use for phone for one thing at a time, right?

                          However, since 2016 (Android 7) Android has supported multiple windows, but it's an unusual use case since small phones screens aren't conducive to multitasking!

                          Ref: https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/large-screens/multi-window-support

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                          Edwin_M
                          wrote on 6 May 2024, 10:22 last edited by Edwin_M 5 Jun 2024, 10:27
                          #12

                          i am a heavy multitasking (and swapping between applications) including split screen user..that's why i use android not ios.

                          Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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                            6 May 2024, 10:22

                            i am a heavy multitasking (and swapping between applications) including split screen user..that's why i use android not ios.

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                            Eugene7
                            wrote on 6 May 2024, 10:48 last edited by
                            #13

                            Quite simply, we do not want to keep being nagged for something we will never use... And there is often a second pop-up message after the first, if you 'cancel' the first...

                            Seriously damn annoying.

                            www.7-dna.com
                            www.youtube.com/user/bogclub7

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                              richtea999
                              wrote on 6 May 2024, 15:11 last edited by richtea999 5 Jun 2024, 15:14
                              #14

                              @Eugene7 On opening a route (with location disabled), mine just informs me that 'Location service is not found', rather than nagging, which is accurate, and minimal:

                              Screenshot_20240506_153903-1.jpg

                              And my settings:

                              Screenshot_20240506_153749-1.jpg

                              Maybe someone (Corjan?) can describe the differences between what you're experiencing to what I see?

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                                6 May 2024, 10:48

                                Quite simply, we do not want to keep being nagged for something we will never use... And there is often a second pop-up message after the first, if you 'cancel' the first...

                                Seriously damn annoying.

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                                M. Schrijver
                                wrote on 6 May 2024, 16:40 last edited by
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                                @Eugene7
                                If that is the whole problem.
                                Enable it and the nagging is gone.

                                Enable it is not the same as always automatic creating a tracklog. This is a second function.

                                (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                  6 May 2024, 16:40

                                  @Eugene7
                                  If that is the whole problem.
                                  Enable it and the nagging is gone.

                                  Enable it is not the same as always automatic creating a tracklog. This is a second function.

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                                  Eugene7
                                  wrote on 7 May 2024, 15:01 last edited by
                                  #16

                                  It is NOT having Location that is the issue.
                                  I have location enabled, so routing works.
                                  The issue is the nags requesting Notification access and background access to location - when the app is closed.

                                  Screenshot_20240507_142628.jpg

                                  And

                                  Screenshot_20240507_142641.jpg

                                  Seriously - stop the nags!

                                  www.7-dna.com
                                  www.youtube.com/user/bogclub7

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                                    7 May 2024, 15:01

                                    It is NOT having Location that is the issue.
                                    I have location enabled, so routing works.
                                    The issue is the nags requesting Notification access and background access to location - when the app is closed.

                                    Screenshot_20240507_142628.jpg

                                    And

                                    Screenshot_20240507_142641.jpg

                                    Seriously - stop the nags!

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                                    Con Hennekens
                                    wrote on 7 May 2024, 18:28 last edited by
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                                    @Eugene7, Notifications are used to inform you about the progress of downloading offline maps. Just enable it, and stop nagging about it 😉

                                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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                                      7 May 2024, 18:28

                                      @Eugene7, Notifications are used to inform you about the progress of downloading offline maps. Just enable it, and stop nagging about it 😉

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                                      Eugene7
                                      wrote on 8 May 2024, 18:17 last edited by
                                      #18

                                      On the phones we use for SatNavs we never have any notifications enabled - ever.
                                      Just stop the nags, as they are totally unnecessary, and allow users to make their own choices..

                                      www.7-dna.com
                                      www.youtube.com/user/bogclub7

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                                        8 May 2024, 18:17

                                        On the phones we use for SatNavs we never have any notifications enabled - ever.
                                        Just stop the nags, as they are totally unnecessary, and allow users to make their own choices..

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                                        Corjan Meijerink
                                        administrator
                                        wrote on 8 May 2024, 18:26 last edited by
                                        #19

                                        @Eugene7 said in Need a way to disable recording of rides:

                                        allow users to make their own choices

                                        I must admit that at MRA we are very much allowing users to make their own choices. More so than at any other platform. This results in us focussing entirely on community request while trying to keep the platform / ecosystem comprehensible for all.

                                        In all honestly @Eugene7 you are starting to "get on some tits" as a dear friend of mine uses as expression. Please keep your tone modest and accept that MRA is not sygic. We will take all requests into consideration but you are starting to cross a line where it's simply resulting in more frustration than contribution 😉

                                        Some other people often also use a tone we don't tolerate. Rest assured that those are also informed.

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                                          wrote on 8 May 2024, 18:27 last edited by
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                                          After my comment above, the thread will be locked. If one has any questions or request personal contact, feel free to message me ❤

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