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    Jörgen
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    wrote on 9 Feb 2024, 08:24 last edited by Jörgen 2 Sept 2024, 09:08
    #36

    Just for information, with my Oukitel outdoor tablet I noticed that changing the USB charging cable it fixed the battery loading problem. The first cable did not supply enough power. First, I thought the 12/5V converter was the issue, but it was the cable.

    Anyway, has someone tried to see if Here's own navigation app has the same issue with power consumption?

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      9 Feb 2024, 08:24

      Just for information, with my Oukitel outdoor tablet I noticed that changing the USB charging cable it fixed the battery loading problem. The first cable did not supply enough power. First, I thought the 12/5V converter was the issue, but it was the cable.

      Anyway, has someone tried to see if Here's own navigation app has the same issue with power consumption?

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      Edwin_M
      wrote on 9 Feb 2024, 08:34 last edited by
      #37

      @Jörgen https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/33259

      Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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        3 Feb 2024, 11:22

        @Flat-Twin-Therapy no offence taken!
        It bothers me probably the most as not only user but also as person responsible for the technical stability / usability of the app.
        I have a meeting with HERE development next week in which they will update me on their progress 🙂

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        Edwin_M
        wrote on 9 Feb 2024, 18:46 last edited by
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        @Corjan-Meijerink any Update/progress from the meeting with HERE?

        Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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          Ton Verkleij
          wrote on 27 Feb 2024, 15:16 last edited by
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          @Corjan-Meijerink
          Hello,

          I would like to see the operation of the app completely independant from the smartphone, making it a real standalone app on Android whereas using it on Android auto I do not have to use smartphone at all.

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            27 Feb 2024, 15:16

            @Corjan-Meijerink
            Hello,

            I would like to see the operation of the app completely independant from the smartphone, making it a real standalone app on Android whereas using it on Android auto I do not have to use smartphone at all.

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            richtea999
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            wrote on 27 Feb 2024, 15:30 last edited by richtea999
            #40

            @Ton-Verkleij said in New update! (4.0.8):

            @Corjan-Meijerink
            Hello,

            I would like to see the operation of the app completely independant from the smartphone, making it a real standalone app on Android whereas using it on Android auto I do not have to use smartphone at all.

            I'm pretty sure Android Auto needs a smartphone to work. How were you hoping to install the app? (unless your vehicle's head unit is really a smartphone/tablet in disguise)

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              27 Feb 2024, 15:30

              @Ton-Verkleij said in New update! (4.0.8):

              @Corjan-Meijerink
              Hello,

              I would like to see the operation of the app completely independant from the smartphone, making it a real standalone app on Android whereas using it on Android auto I do not have to use smartphone at all.

              I'm pretty sure Android Auto needs a smartphone to work. How were you hoping to install the app? (unless your vehicle's head unit is really a smartphone/tablet in disguise)

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              Ton Verkleij
              wrote on 27 Feb 2024, 15:35 last edited by
              #41

              @richtea999 I will be using the app via Android Auto on the Chigee IO5-lite device.

              https://www.chigee.com/collections/aio-5-lite/products/aio5-lite

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                27 Feb 2024, 15:35

                @richtea999 I will be using the app via Android Auto on the Chigee IO5-lite device.

                https://www.chigee.com/collections/aio-5-lite/products/aio5-lite

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                Con Hennekens
                Alpha tester
                wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 10:25 last edited by
                #42

                @Ton-Verkleij, how is using the app via Android Auto ever going to be smartphone independant...?

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                  27 Feb 2024, 15:35

                  @richtea999 I will be using the app via Android Auto on the Chigee IO5-lite device.

                  https://www.chigee.com/collections/aio-5-lite/products/aio5-lite

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                  richtea999
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                  wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 12:29 last edited by
                  #43

                  @Ton-Verkleij The Chigee looks good, Ton, but only for certain predefined features. It does have a GPS module, so in theory it might be possible for MRA to supply Chigee with a build that runs standalone, but to be honest, it's a market of 1 versus 20k different models of Android devices.

                  You're asking for the Chigee to be become a satnav as well as everything else, but all the satnav downsides would come with that, i.e.:

                  • infrequent updates to functionality, if any
                  • you're tied in to Chigee's satnav design - no swapping devices
                  • when it busts you have to buy another one, which will include paying for the new satnav 'module' again.
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                    28 Feb 2024, 10:25

                    @Ton-Verkleij, how is using the app via Android Auto ever going to be smartphone independant...?

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                    wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 12:39 last edited by
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                    @Con-Hennekens said in New update! (4.0.8):

                    @Ton-Verkleij, how is using the app via Android Auto ever going to be smartphone independant...?

                    Maybe Ton is confusing Android Auto with Android Automotive.

                    My car, a Polestar, runs Android Automotive and doesn’t offer Android Auto. You install the apps on the car, not your phone. Since the car doesn’t so Android Auto, you can’t use MRA unless you’re an iPhone user (the car does support CarPlay).

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                      28 Feb 2024, 12:39

                      @Con-Hennekens said in New update! (4.0.8):

                      @Ton-Verkleij, how is using the app via Android Auto ever going to be smartphone independant...?

                      Maybe Ton is confusing Android Auto with Android Automotive.

                      My car, a Polestar, runs Android Automotive and doesn’t offer Android Auto. You install the apps on the car, not your phone. Since the car doesn’t so Android Auto, you can’t use MRA unless you’re an iPhone user (the car does support CarPlay).

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                      Con Hennekens
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                      wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 13:20 last edited by
                      #45

                      @Dae-0, A dedicated Android native head-end for motorbikes would be really great. But if the AIO can install apps, they do a really great job hiding that info on their website ;-). Integration with dashcams is great though!

                      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                        28 Feb 2024, 12:39

                        @Con-Hennekens said in New update! (4.0.8):

                        @Ton-Verkleij, how is using the app via Android Auto ever going to be smartphone independant...?

                        Maybe Ton is confusing Android Auto with Android Automotive.

                        My car, a Polestar, runs Android Automotive and doesn’t offer Android Auto. You install the apps on the car, not your phone. Since the car doesn’t so Android Auto, you can’t use MRA unless you’re an iPhone user (the car does support CarPlay).

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                        Corjan Meijerink
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                        wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 13:25 last edited by
                        #46

                        @Dae-0 interesting! So does Android Automotive include the Play Store? If so, you should still be able to download our app, right?

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                          28 Feb 2024, 13:25

                          @Dae-0 interesting! So does Android Automotive include the Play Store? If so, you should still be able to download our app, right?

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                          wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 13:36 last edited by
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                          @Corjan-Meijerink said in New update! (4.0.8):

                          @Dae-0 interesting! So does Android Automotive include the Play Store? If so, you should still be able to download our app, right?

                          Yes, but no!

                          You get the Play Store and that’s how you install the app in the car. The app has to be written to support Android Automotive though. I’m lead to believe that it’s not much effort, but many apps aren’t written to support it simply because the developers are unaware of its existence. The naming is too similar to Android Auto, leading to confusion.

                          My car comes with Google Maps, Spotify, Chrome Browser and a few others installed as standard. The Google maps also integrates into the car so it displays the map on the dashboard (speedo), navigates to a charger if you don’t have enough charge to reach your destination, and ensures the battery is at optimum temperature for max charging speed if you select a charger as a destination or waypoint.

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                            28 Feb 2024, 13:25

                            @Dae-0 interesting! So does Android Automotive include the Play Store? If so, you should still be able to download our app, right?

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                            Alpha tester
                            wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 13:37 last edited by
                            #48

                            @Corjan-Meijerink, that's already quite possible in cars, but have not seen one for motorbikes.

                            Check this: https://www.joyingauto.eu/joying-android-10-double-din-head-unit-replacement-7-inch-dsp-radio.html

                            They also sell car-specific packages for many cars, inlcusing CANBUS and steering wheel controls. These have DSP for great sound too! There are lots of positive reviews on youtube. AND they don't cost a fortune 😉

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                              28 Feb 2024, 13:36

                              @Corjan-Meijerink said in New update! (4.0.8):

                              @Dae-0 interesting! So does Android Automotive include the Play Store? If so, you should still be able to download our app, right?

                              Yes, but no!

                              You get the Play Store and that’s how you install the app in the car. The app has to be written to support Android Automotive though. I’m lead to believe that it’s not much effort, but many apps aren’t written to support it simply because the developers are unaware of its existence. The naming is too similar to Android Auto, leading to confusion.

                              My car comes with Google Maps, Spotify, Chrome Browser and a few others installed as standard. The Google maps also integrates into the car so it displays the map on the dashboard (speedo), navigates to a charger if you don’t have enough charge to reach your destination, and ensures the battery is at optimum temperature for max charging speed if you select a charger as a destination or waypoint.

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                              wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 13:37 last edited by
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                              @Dae-0 Thanks a lot for pointing this out to us! 🙂
                              Honestly, much appreciated! Cannot however make any promises to when we will look into this with more detail.

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                                28 Feb 2024, 13:37

                                @Dae-0 Thanks a lot for pointing this out to us! 🙂
                                Honestly, much appreciated! Cannot however make any promises to when we will look into this with more detail.

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                                wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 13:42 last edited by
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                                @Corjan-Meijerink said in New update! (4.0.8):

                                @Dae-0 Thanks a lot for pointing this out to us! 🙂
                                Honestly, much appreciated! Cannot however make any promises to when we will look into this with more detail.

                                No problem. It’s not just Polestar that use Android Automotive. I know the Renault Megane and latest Volvos also use it. There are others but I’m having a memory problem🤣

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                                  28 Feb 2024, 13:42

                                  @Corjan-Meijerink said in New update! (4.0.8):

                                  @Dae-0 Thanks a lot for pointing this out to us! 🙂
                                  Honestly, much appreciated! Cannot however make any promises to when we will look into this with more detail.

                                  No problem. It’s not just Polestar that use Android Automotive. I know the Renault Megane and latest Volvos also use it. There are others but I’m having a memory problem🤣

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                                  wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 13:46 last edited by Con Hennekens
                                  #51

                                  @Dae-0, I just noticed this mention in the specs of the AIO-5-Lite device:

                                  Operating System: CGOS(Linux)

                                  So definitely no Android Play Store 😉

                                  I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                                  Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                                  Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                                    28 Feb 2024, 12:29

                                    @Ton-Verkleij The Chigee looks good, Ton, but only for certain predefined features. It does have a GPS module, so in theory it might be possible for MRA to supply Chigee with a build that runs standalone, but to be honest, it's a market of 1 versus 20k different models of Android devices.

                                    You're asking for the Chigee to be become a satnav as well as everything else, but all the satnav downsides would come with that, i.e.:

                                    • infrequent updates to functionality, if any
                                    • you're tied in to Chigee's satnav design - no swapping devices
                                    • when it busts you have to buy another one, which will include paying for the new satnav 'module' again.
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                                    Ton Verkleij
                                    wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 15:28 last edited by
                                    #52

                                    @richtea999 I know, I use the apps on Android Auto, and MyRouteApp is one of them. And the Chigee has Android Auto so I can use MyrouteApp on there too.

                                    The thing is that whenever I want to change something in the app on Android Auto my Smartphone wakes up and I have to set the changes on there, which is very annoying.

                                    So MyrouteApp on Android Auto is not a standalone app but leans on functionality on the smartphone. TomTomGo does run as a standalone app on Android Auto.

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                                      28 Feb 2024, 13:25

                                      @Dae-0 interesting! So does Android Automotive include the Play Store? If so, you should still be able to download our app, right?

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                                      wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 15:34 last edited by
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                                      @Corjan-Meijerink My car is able to run Android Auto, whenever you connect the smartphone to the usb port it automatically starts it up. For wireless connection I use the AA-Wireless dongle. You intall it once and then it makes a wireless connection autimatically. The apps that are Android Auto proof automatically appear in the home screen.

                                      The Chigee IO5-lite device does the same thing. So all the Android Auto approved apps are visible on the device, including myrouteapp.

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                                        28 Feb 2024, 13:42

                                        @Corjan-Meijerink said in New update! (4.0.8):

                                        @Dae-0 Thanks a lot for pointing this out to us! 🙂
                                        Honestly, much appreciated! Cannot however make any promises to when we will look into this with more detail.

                                        No problem. It’s not just Polestar that use Android Automotive. I know the Renault Megane and latest Volvos also use it. There are others but I’m having a memory problem🤣

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                                        wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 16:34 last edited by Edwin_M
                                        #54

                                        @Dae-0 @Corjan-Meijerink volvo xc40, same issue.
                                        Android Auto is not Supported. It's android automotive

                                        Samsung S24+ Android, Carpuride W702 , KTM 1290 Super Adventure & Wielrenfietsen

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                                          28 Feb 2024, 13:37

                                          @Dae-0 Thanks a lot for pointing this out to us! 🙂
                                          Honestly, much appreciated! Cannot however make any promises to when we will look into this with more detail.

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                                          wrote on 28 Feb 2024, 18:05 last edited by richtea999
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                                          @Corjan-Meijerink said in New update! (4.0.8):

                                          @Dae-0 Thanks a lot for pointing this out to us! 🙂
                                          Honestly, much appreciated! Cannot however make any promises to when we will look into this with more detail.

                                          Its been around since 2017.

                                          110 apps in total, and most are quite average:
                                          https://play.google.com/store/apps/streamchild/explore_all_apps_aae

                                          And a supported car list:
                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Automotive

                                          I think that makes it pretty niche, which is why very few people know it exists.

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