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  • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

    @Rob-Verhoeff
    In landscape mode zie je wel hetzelfde (ongeveer), maar het oppervalk waarop je dat ziet is veel kleiner. En, dus ook de resolutie waarmee dat wordt getoond.
    In mijn beleving is het dus niet vergelijkbaar.

    Daarmee blijft mijn suggestie staan: verklein de rijbaaninstructie
    Supersuggestie van @PeterKerkhof om een optie te maken zodat je door te klikken op de rijbaaninstructie deze kunt laten verdwijnen.

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    @Dikke-Wim said in Rijbaaninstructie op snelwegen: veel te groot en komt te vroeg!:

    In landscape mode zie je wel hetzelfde (ongeveer), maar het oppervalk waarop je dat ziet is veel kleiner. En, dus ook de resolutie waarmee dat wordt getoond.
    In mijn beleving is het dus niet vergelijkbaar.

    Daarmee ben ik het eens. Heb ik hierboven ook al aangegeven.

    Maar met onderstaande opmerking ben ik het niet eens:

    een optie te maken zodat je door te klikken op de rijbaaninstructie deze kunt laten verdwijnen.

    Er zijn landen waar een motorrijder te allen tijde twee handen aan het stuur moet hebben. En er zijn ook landen waar je geen instrumenten mag bedienen tijdens het rijden.

    In English:

    @Dikke-Wim said in Lane instruction on highways: much too big and comes too early!:

    In landscape mode you see the same thing (approximately), but the surface on which you see it is much smaller. And, therefore, also the resolution with which it is shown.
    So in my experience it is not comparable.

    I agree with that. I have already indicated above.

    But I disagree with the comment below:

    create an option so that you can make it disappear by clicking on the lane instruction.

    There are countries where a motorcyclist must have two hands on the handlebars at all times. And there are also countries where you are not allowed to operate instruments while driving.

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    • Dikke Wimundefined Dikke Wim

      De nieuwe versie van MRA uitgeprobeerd (4.0.4 (216). De rijbaaninstructie is een hele mooie toevoeging. Echter,

        1. de instructie beslaat ±50% van het scherm van mijn smartphone (iPhone). Zie onder fig. 1.
          Suggestie: Maak de instructie 20-30% kleiner
        1. de instructie komt al heel erg vroeg, een keer zo vroeg dat er nog een andere afslag tussen zat. Dat brengt veel verwarring. Geen plaatje van, wel dat de instructie al ruim voor 800m tot wel 1.3km in beeld komt. Zie fig. 2.
          Suggestie: geef de instructie pas vanaf 350-400 meter om minder eerdere afslagen te vermijden.
        1. de instructie is soms zeer verwarrend omdat de NIET TE NEMEN afslag met een bord aangegeven wordt en de te nemen route geen bord heeft. ZIe fig. 3.
          Suggestie: probeer altijd de te nemen afslag/route (rechtdoor) te ondersteunen met een bord.
        1. de navigatie in mijn auto laat het bord van de NIET TE NEMEN afslag kleiner zien en wat meer gedimd. Erg handig (zie ook punt 3). Zie fig. 4.
          Suggestie: maak het bord van de NIET TE NEMEN afslag of richting kleiner en ietswat gedimd.

      Hopelijk heeft het ontwikkelteam iets aan mijn suggesties. Keep up the good work!

      Figuur 1: de instrucitie beslaat ±50% van het scherm
      Scherm­afbeelding 2023-09-07 om 17.01.58.png

      Figuur 2. De instructie is hier al 1.3km voor de afslag op het scherm. Andere tussenliggende afslagen zijn soms aanwezig en veroorzaken verwarring.
      Scherm­afbeelding 2023-09-07 om 17.02.44.png

      Fig 3. verwarrend dat je hier NIET de afslag met het bord moet nemen!
      Scherm­afbeelding 2023-09-07 om 17.03.53.png

      Fig 4. Suggestie om een layout te maken (indien mogelijk) zoals hier: het bord dat niet relevant is, is kleiner en deels gedimd. (Kia Niro)
      Scherm­afbeelding 2023-09-07 om 19.35.04.png

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      wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
      #22

      @Dikke-Wim

      Had 2 fantastic days out (so far) on my new Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Pro.
      No issues with the app at all. It has worked as expected both days.
      I am now a fan of the Dark Mode.
      Today I did try Landscape mode for an hour.
      I have to say that for me, I just don’t like it, the layout just seems “squashed”!
      Horses for courses, I’ll stick with Portrait mode.

      (Tot nu toe) 2 fantastische dagen gehad op mijn nieuwe Triumph Tiger 1200 Rally Pro.
      Totaal geen problemen met de app. Het heeft beide dagen gewerkt zoals verwacht.
      Ik ben nu een fan van de donkere modus.
      Vandaag heb ik de Landscape-modus een uurtje geprobeerd.
      Ik moet zeggen dat ik het gewoon niet leuk vind, de lay-out lijkt gewoon "platgedrukt"!
      Paarden voor cursussen, ik blijf bij de portretmodus.

      Snapshot 16-09-2023 19:30.jpeg

      You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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      • Con Hennekensundefined Online
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        #23

        It's so funny...
        Until the zumo XT literally ALL dedicated navigation units have been in landscape format. Yet when people switch to a phone some seem to think portrait is a better orientation. Even the portrait function of the XT has been market demanded from people who tried navigating on their phones first.

        The obviously wrong orientation of smartphone design also disturbed the photography industry, now people think shooting pictures in portrait is default. It's not, proved by the many pictures with too much street, too much sky and too little of what you wanted to take a picture of.

        Why? People have their eyes beside each other, not above each other...

        I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

        Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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          #24

          Thanks for the feedback in this post.

          I've made the image smaller in portrait mode. Yes, this makes the text slightly smaller and thus more difficult to read. It this does however ensure that more of the map remains visible 🙂
          Old:
          IMG_6266 (1).png

          New:
          IMG_6268 (1).png

          Besides that:

          • attempt has been made to only show the signs that are relevant to your manoeuvre and not the "stay on the highway" images.
          • changed the internal configuration to only show the image when you are within a certain distance.

          Please let me know what you think!

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          • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

            Thanks for the feedback in this post.

            I've made the image smaller in portrait mode. Yes, this makes the text slightly smaller and thus more difficult to read. It this does however ensure that more of the map remains visible 🙂
            Old:
            IMG_6266 (1).png

            New:
            IMG_6268 (1).png

            Besides that:

            • attempt has been made to only show the signs that are relevant to your manoeuvre and not the "stay on the highway" images.
            • changed the internal configuration to only show the image when you are within a certain distance.

            Please let me know what you think!

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            wrote on last edited by
            #25

            @Corjan-Meijerink ... sounds good and fits in with my suggestion. 👍

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            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

              Thanks for the feedback in this post.

              I've made the image smaller in portrait mode. Yes, this makes the text slightly smaller and thus more difficult to read. It this does however ensure that more of the map remains visible 🙂
              Old:
              IMG_6266 (1).png

              New:
              IMG_6268 (1).png

              Besides that:

              • attempt has been made to only show the signs that are relevant to your manoeuvre and not the "stay on the highway" images.
              • changed the internal configuration to only show the image when you are within a certain distance.

              Please let me know what you think!

              Rob Verhoeffundefined Online
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              wrote on last edited by
              #26

              @Corjan-Meijerink I only use the phone in landscape. Not having any difficulties with the images. However, the suggestions are okay.

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              • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                Thanks for the feedback in this post.

                I've made the image smaller in portrait mode. Yes, this makes the text slightly smaller and thus more difficult to read. It this does however ensure that more of the map remains visible 🙂
                Old:
                IMG_6266 (1).png

                New:
                IMG_6268 (1).png

                Besides that:

                • attempt has been made to only show the signs that are relevant to your manoeuvre and not the "stay on the highway" images.
                • changed the internal configuration to only show the image when you are within a certain distance.

                Please let me know what you think!

                Con Hennekensundefined Online
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                Con Hennekens
                wrote on last edited by
                #27

                @Corjan-Meijerink, seems perfectly fine!

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  It's so funny...
                  Until the zumo XT literally ALL dedicated navigation units have been in landscape format. Yet when people switch to a phone some seem to think portrait is a better orientation. Even the portrait function of the XT has been market demanded from people who tried navigating on their phones first.

                  The obviously wrong orientation of smartphone design also disturbed the photography industry, now people think shooting pictures in portrait is default. It's not, proved by the many pictures with too much street, too much sky and too little of what you wanted to take a picture of.

                  Why? People have their eyes beside each other, not above each other...

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                  wrote on last edited by Lynchy67
                  #28

                  @Con-Hennekens
                  At least my beautiful new Tiger 1200 Rally Pro photo was taken in Landscape mode. 😊

                  You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                  • Lynchy67undefined Lynchy67

                    @Con-Hennekens
                    At least my beautiful new Tiger 1200 Rally Pro photo was taken in Landscape mode. 😊

                    Con Hennekensundefined Online
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                    Con Hennekens
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                    #29

                    @Lynchy67, Great! That's how it's done! 😉

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                      Thanks for the feedback in this post.

                      I've made the image smaller in portrait mode. Yes, this makes the text slightly smaller and thus more difficult to read. It this does however ensure that more of the map remains visible 🙂
                      Old:
                      IMG_6266 (1).png

                      New:
                      IMG_6268 (1).png

                      Besides that:

                      • attempt has been made to only show the signs that are relevant to your manoeuvre and not the "stay on the highway" images.
                      • changed the internal configuration to only show the image when you are within a certain distance.

                      Please let me know what you think!

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                      RouteXperts
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #30

                      @Corjan-Meijerink that sound good
                      Will it also be displayed on the screen of Android auto because up till now it doesn't
                      Have you been able to change something in the not so detailed view because that didn't function good
                      Thnkx for your effort

                      Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                      Honda Silverwing GL 650
                      DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                      Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                      Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                      • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                        @Corjan-Meijerink that sound good
                        Will it also be displayed on the screen of Android auto because up till now it doesn't
                        Have you been able to change something in the not so detailed view because that didn't function good
                        Thnkx for your effort

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                        Corjan Meijerink
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                        #31

                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom Android Auto will include lane guidance in the next update! It won't however yet include these new (detailed) images.

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                        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                          @Marinus-van-Deudekom Android Auto will include lane guidance in the next update! It won't however yet include these new (detailed) images.

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                          #32

                          @Corjan-Meijerink step by step we are getting there, thnkx

                          Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                          Honda Silverwing GL 650
                          DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                          Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                          Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                            Afgelopen week de app gebruikt in Frankrijk met de lane assist en warempel ik heb ook wat te mekkeren over de functie. Al rijdend op de autoweg geeft lane assist ook meldingen als je rechtdoor moet rijden op autowegen en daar vindt ik de melding overbodig.

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                              Afgelopen week de app gebruikt in Frankrijk met de lane assist en warempel ik heb ook wat te mekkeren over de functie. Al rijdend op de autoweg geeft lane assist ook meldingen als je rechtdoor moet rijden op autowegen en daar vindt ik de melding overbodig.

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                              #34

                              @Cleo said in Rijbaaninstructie op snelwegen: veel te groot en komt te vroeg!:

                              Al rijdend op de autoweg geeft lane assist ook meldingen als je rechtdoor moet rijden op autowegen en daar vindt ik de melding overbodig.

                              Even teruglezen naar boven. Daar wordt gemeld dat dit wordt opgelost!

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                              Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
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                                Gut, dass ich ein bisschen Niederländisch verstehen kann. 😁

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                                Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
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                                • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                  Thanks for the feedback in this post.

                                  I've made the image smaller in portrait mode. Yes, this makes the text slightly smaller and thus more difficult to read. It this does however ensure that more of the map remains visible 🙂
                                  Old:
                                  IMG_6266 (1).png

                                  New:
                                  IMG_6268 (1).png

                                  Besides that:

                                  • attempt has been made to only show the signs that are relevant to your manoeuvre and not the "stay on the highway" images.
                                  • changed the internal configuration to only show the image when you are within a certain distance.

                                  Please let me know what you think!

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                                  @Corjan-Meijerink I like the new lane assist but I wonder if it is necessary to have the pop up for every junction. On an urban motorway, with lots of junctions, the lane assist screen is present for a high percentage of the time. During which time the information normally displayed at the top of the screen, ie distance to next turning, next waypoint/skip etc, is obscured. I found this quite disorientating. Perhaps lane assist only before the planned exit would be sufficient?

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                                  • David Bonnerundefined David Bonner

                                    @Corjan-Meijerink I like the new lane assist but I wonder if it is necessary to have the pop up for every junction. On an urban motorway, with lots of junctions, the lane assist screen is present for a high percentage of the time. During which time the information normally displayed at the top of the screen, ie distance to next turning, next waypoint/skip etc, is obscured. I found this quite disorientating. Perhaps lane assist only before the planned exit would be sufficient?

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                                    @David-Bonner said in Rijbaaninstructie op snelwegen: veel te groot en komt te vroeg!:

                                    I like the new lane assist but I wonder if it is necessary to have the pop up for every junction.

                                    If you scrollback, you can read that this will be fixed.

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                                    Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
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                                    • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                                      @David-Bonner said in Rijbaaninstructie op snelwegen: veel te groot en komt te vroeg!:

                                      I like the new lane assist but I wonder if it is necessary to have the pop up for every junction.

                                      If you scrollback, you can read that this will be fixed.

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                                      @Rob-Verhoeff Thanks for your reply, I will look out for the fix in the next update.

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                                      • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                        Thanks for the feedback in this post.

                                        I've made the image smaller in portrait mode. Yes, this makes the text slightly smaller and thus more difficult to read. It this does however ensure that more of the map remains visible 🙂
                                        Old:
                                        IMG_6266 (1).png

                                        New:
                                        IMG_6268 (1).png

                                        Besides that:

                                        • attempt has been made to only show the signs that are relevant to your manoeuvre and not the "stay on the highway" images.
                                        • changed the internal configuration to only show the image when you are within a certain distance.

                                        Please let me know what you think!

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                                        @Corjan-Meijerink
                                        Thanks very much Corjan. This is much better!!!!
                                        Appreciate your action(s) now and in the past.

                                        For me that is a good reason to keep testing the App

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                                          @Corjan-Meijerink
                                          When is the next Beta version comming? Can't wait to test it.

                                          Hopefully, you also adjusted the moment the lane instructions come into view to a much later moment i.e. not 1.2 km or 900m but rather ±500m before the instruction has to be done.

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